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    Laurence should have easily won this week’s challenge, but I think that Zac prevented it from happening b/c he wanted to “see more from her” than one kind of look in the future. Many designers over the years have taken on a signature aesthetic all the way to the finale at Fashion Week, so some of that didn’t necessarily ring true. Jenni’s look aped Erin’s embroidering too much for me to support her win, and I didn’t care for the 1920s inspiration too much. “Subconscious” cheating is still cheating in my book, so side-eye to Jenni. I’m surprised that the judges cared so little about this issue (besides La Heidi). I knew through the obvious Lifetime editing that Erin and Dexter were feeling themselves too much in the sew room and the judges would think otherwise. Luckily, Dexter had immunity, and golden child Erin won’t rest on her laurels anymore. Between Tasha and Nathalia, the right person went home. Tasha was sadly out of her league here, but I’m with Nina in liking her cocktail dress (and fab sash!) over Nathalia’s ill-fitting reformed ice skating get-up. That she couldn’t see what was so obvious to Tim Gunn in critiques was telling, as was Tasha’s overall design aesthetic in going to that slight daytime look as her original inspiration for the challenge.

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    Didn’t understand the drama behind such a simple challenge that requiered them to do something as simple as a “cocktail dress, but elegant”.

    Sometimes, sometimes, I feel like “well, I’m no designer, maybe they know better”….But this was one of those weeks when it really didn’t matter. I’m no designer, but at least I know that what Cornelious and Roberi chose for their fabrics wasn’t going to get them far enough. I’m no designer, but I know I can’t be like Cornelious and design the exact same thing I designed before and not expect Tim to not call me out. I know that Dexter had a good idea and then just did a simple brown (ew) dress and didn’t even cut the fringe properly which I commented on during the runway and was the first thing Zac said. I’m no designer, but I know Tasha had to go and was going to go since they showed her complete look before the runway.

    I can understand the comments about Jennie copying Erin’s technique, and Laurence doing “something” on the shoulders again, but I would much rather have this than yet another pattern dress from Mondo or another one of Kini’s overused looks from past seasons, for example. The issue of copying has come up plenty of times, I’m glad the judges finally called somebody out in a real, dramatic way, in front of the copied designer, but I don’t know, I still think Jennie did a good job. She shouldn’t have won though, either Rick or Laurence deserved that win. If they didn’t appreciate the shoulder thing that much, then the simple idea of “wait, what if I use the aprons?” and the excellent result after that, which took care of 100% of the challenge they were given should’ve won. Not necessarily Jennie.

    Emily Ratajkowski was a good judge.

    Good season so far.

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    Laurence not winning that challenge was total bullshirt. So they don’t want her to rely too heavily on the shoulder detailing? Just tell her that. “Laurence, you’re the winner! We can’t wait to see what other exciting things you do besides this cool shoulder!” Though it’s not like she’s doing that every week. Did the jumpsuit that won have that? I loved Rik’s look as well. I like Jenni, but I wasn’t into her dress at all. I liked the idea of it — bright, eye-catching, easy to wear — but I find that embroidering technique to be kind of messy looking in a way that seems weird to me on actual clothes. I didn’t care for it last week when Erin used it and didn’t love it here.

    The editing for Erin and Dexter was so ridiculously heavy handed that of course they had to be taken down a peg. But it was kind of amazing seeing how much trouble the designers had with a really straightforward challenge like this, especially considering how well they’ve done with some other challenges that seemed way more challenging. Maybe having them conceptualize their looks after drinking wasn’t the best idea. I didn’t think Dexter’s look was all that bad, and actually, though it was too much and costume-y, I didn’t hate Erin’s either. There were others that seemed worse, like what Cornelius ended up putting together or Mah-Jing’s dress, which is, I think, what inspired Tim’s comment as they were leaving for the runway, “I’m not saying anything; I’m just looking.” Or of course the hot messes Tasha and Nathalia ended up with.

    In the end, though, the right person went home. Tasha’s aesthetic really just doesn’t gel well with what the show is all about. Sometimes people are able to shift and make it work (or convince the judges they are ahead of the curve, like Gretchen), and sometimes not.

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    Episode Title: “Welcome to the Urban Jungle”

    Synopsis: The remaining designers recharge their batteries at Universal Studios in Orlando, FL, and must design a new look for Urban Jungle; another contestant is eliminated from the competition.

    Discuss.

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    There was no other choice than Brik going home for the eyesore that he created. He lost that challenge at Mood. Great win for Laurence, but I wonder how long it will take for the judges to turn on her for only doing jackets no matter how diverse and fierce they are. Just b/c of that issues with her drop-crotch pants, I think I would have given this win to Nathalia instead. Her look displayed a level of sophistication I honestly didn’t believe that she had. Both Cornelius and Erin needed these reality checks, I think. Erin’s look in particular looked ridiculous, though I’m not as huge a fan of her embroidery as others seem to be. I appreciated where Dexter was going with his military look, but I hoped for more refining there with those high shoulders. Prepare yourselves for another drama-filled group challenge next episode!

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    I was also really impressed with Nathalia, who I didn’t think could have made something so sophisticated. Still, I’m glad that Laurence won because they owed her from last week, and I thought there was something a little wonky in Nat’s pants as well.

    The guest judges this week were great, and I was amused by how undone Heidi seemed at the bad designs this week. She was so stunned by Erin’s hideous shorts that she couldn’t stop insulting them. I’d have been as happy to see Cornelius go as Brik, but they made the right choice.

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    Cornelius should’ve gone home. I know Brik still had those two first weeks against him and the whole overused “I don’t know who you are” line made sense, but Cornelius made a far worse design. With this at least you know Brik can make clothes. Cornelius not so much.

    Natalia should’ve won. It looked like such an easy win. Last week Laurance lost because of the shoulder thing, this week, if that made sense, then “you always do jackets” should’ve made sense too giving the win to Natalia who overall was just much better. Laurance’s jacket was awesome before Tim’s critique. It looked great but she overdesigned it and had the crotch issue.

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    Episode Title: “Project Pop Up”

    Synopsis: The remaining designers embark on their second team challenge of the season when tasked to create three-piece collections for a SoHo pop-up show; Kelly Osborne returns as guest judge; another contestant is eliminated from the competition.

    Discuss.

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    Big episode with the second team challenge and Tim Gunn using his save! It would have been a better “moment” if he had used it on Alex from a few weeks ago, but I get it was too early for it then with immunities still in play. I guess it was fitting enough to use it on Cornelius since Erin and Dexter mean girled him for filth in judging. It’s just better when Tim Gunn has an established rapport with who he’s saving beforehand. All three teams underwhelmed me tonight, but a lot of that had to do with their color palettes that weren’t too forgiving. I would have opted for the public consensus choice of Neutrals too (maybe giving Nathalie the individual win) and had them win over safe Blue, which I thought was a pretty tacky collection. Red deserved to be in the bottom with only Erin’s cost as the redeeming factor. Eliminate Dexter for his awful styling choices over Cornelius’s poorly executed pleated dress, break up Erixter, keep the save in play longer, and call it a damn day. Kelly Osborne’s an incredible judge BTW. If/when “Juniors” gets canceled, she should angle herself for a permanent fourth judge slot (or whenever Nina gets bored with this; Zac and Heidi will both be doing this for another decade).

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    Yeah I agree that Kelly Osbourne can be a good judge, she certainly has the experience during her Fashion Police days and PR Junior, but it’s that whole debacle with FP that makes me dislike her so much for all the things she did there.

    Anyway, the challenge was a good one, I never would’ve thought the blue team was a winner, I think the neutrals should’ve won. The blue team had some nice things, better fabrics, but if the red skirt was such a problem, how is Roberi’s any better? One was criticized for being short and long, the other one was too so what gives? And that skirt had a tacky sweater on it too, among other things that the collection suffered from. Being Venezuelan, I’m glad Roberi is a winner though, but no, this was not the best collection.

    As for eliminations, Cornelious deserved to go last week instead of Brik, and when you add what he did then with this week, he was an easy elimination and not worthy of a save at all. I guess time must be running out on the save, but besides Mah Jing who should be eliminated next (please God!), people with easy elimination prospects like Natalia and Jenni are much more worthy of that save and I asume they can be used two weeks from now too.

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    I was pretty surprised Tim used the save this week, but I guess this has been the one time this season where it seemed like Tim pretty clearly disagreed with the judges decision. I don’t really care for Cornelius much as a designer or a personality, but I was really pulling for Dexter to get the boot. Not only have he and Erin gotten some of the least flattering edits in recent memory of the past few weeks, but it seems to be a chronic problem with this aesthetic that he thinks he’s being extreme in some way (“punk,” “edgy,” and “so far outside the box” are all ways he’s described his looks when the judges have roundly disagreed) when he’s being been-there-done-that boring. If Cornelius’s crime was trying to get along with his team at the expense of his own views, I don’t think that’s worse than steamrolling someone with your bad ideas. If it was making the skirt, surely it must count for something that he already had a full look at Erin kinda took part of and then he had to rush to make another piece while he teammates didn’t? I don’t know. I would have been thrilled for his elimination last week, but it seemed wrong this week.

    But that team was clearly the worst. I love red, but they should have known better than to not use any other colors. Team Neutral’s looks were nice, but I did think Team Blue was better from a design perspective. I would have given Rik the win, but I was glad for Roberi. I think his skirt vs. Cornelius’s skirt was an example of the fine line between something weird working and not working. But Cornelius’s whole skirt was kind of a mess, so differences in length looked potentially accidental, whereas Roberi’s was well made, with a confidence that made his skirt interesting rather than weird.

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    The judges made the right call with eliminating Jenni, someone who I think was somewhat out of her league (and who “subconsciously” aped Erin’s aesthetics from a few weeks ago). Nathalie still has something there to show, though this design with the oversized coat and ill-fitting pants did her no favors. Same goes for Erin doing a variation of what she’s been doing for weeks now with her oversized coats and embellishments. I wonder when the judges will turn on Laurence for doing one of her signature jackets in practically every look. I guess when you’re as badass as Laurence is, you get an automatic season-long pass? Look for her to go all the way to Fashion Week. Nice win for Rik, but gasp, I would have voted for Mah-Jong instead. It’s the best design he’s created yet. Too bad his mother was such a cold fish, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles sometimes. AARP’s prize package of $50K total was pretty insane for a straight-forward challenge like this one. For that kind of money, they should have had more obstacles or something thrown at them like only using awful unconventional materials or making them sketch and sew blindfolded lol.

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    Yeah, 50k for this challenge makes no sense. It’s like giving 50k for that cocktail dress design so many people failed with a few weeks back when it was such a regular challenge.

    Again, being Venezuela and understanding and knowing a few things about Roberi and his friend’s new lives, I would’ve loved to see him win and see both of them get that money. Roberi did a great job with this challenge.

    Rik’s was also good but even though in a graphic way he did something great, the whole design was the typical rich lady tweed suit, so nothing new there. Maybe the same could be said about Roberi, but I liked
    his better. I think the girl looked lovely, Rik’s mom could’ve used something different than the typical suit you would expect from this type of lady.

    Mah-Jing’s design was confusing. Sure he mentioned a kimono and it looked like one, but you didn’t know where it started and where it ended. So many things on it. His mom looked completely covered liked any regular Missy Elliot outfit.

    Jenni would’ve been a much better choice than Cornelius for the save. However I do agree with her elimination, her mom looked like she was trying to pass for Liza on Younger but with awful fitting clothes. So she ended up like an older version of Drew Barrymore’s goofy girl in Never Been Kissed.

    Natalia’s was a mess and I once thought Erin could win. Not anymore.

    Laurence could’ve also been on the bottom for making her daughter (what!!!) look like an older secretary trying too hard to be cool.

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    Forgot to mention the absolute worst part of the episode: The up close critiques with the “models”…That was very uncomfortable to watch. People trashing your daughter’s outfit in your face must have been awful to go through. As if the regular critique wasn’t enough they now must go through it again.

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    Yes! The way they talked about the work right in front of the moms was rough.

    Otherwise, I basically agreed with the judges. I would probably also have given Mah-Jing the win, which is shocking, but I was happy for Rik, and would have been for Roberi as well. I really like Jenni, but those pants were so so so horrible. Despite the problems with Nathalia’s outfit, I would have easily kept her over Jenni or Erin, who I think is just too high on her own nonsense right now. Not much was said about the size and fit of her coat, but making it to look like a cocoon felt really ineffective and just a little unwieldy. And that she couldn’t see how junior the dress looked, or how incongruous it was with the coat, is worrisome.

    That 50K prize was also a real shock.

    It’s funny that not only are both Laurence and Erin generally skating for constantly making jackets or coats (Erin is getting in trouble in other ways), but now other designers have started putting coats and jackets on their outfits as well, whether they have time to make them or not. I think some challenges with a little more direction moving forward will help quash the trend hopefully.

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