July 20, 2013 at 11:26 pm #288550
I have a couple of questions about the Emmy’s this year, in particular, the nominations;
1. Where the heck did the Jane Lynch nomination come from? I assumed like most that after her first win that she wouldn’t get nominated again for GLEE, a show that has seemingly fallen off the Emmy radar.. and yet, here the show gets a Directing nom all of a sudden, shocking.
2. What happened to “New Girl”, it was the IT show last year and now NOTHING, no nod for Zooey, nothing for Max… I guess it just couldn’t overcome it’s ratings issues?July 20, 2013 at 11:47 pm #288552
I believe Lynch’s nomination has a lot to do with name recognition, plus the Shooting Star episode was a big thing when it aired, creating somehow buzz for her. I can’t see another explanation, she was given almost nothing to do with this season.July 21, 2013 at 9:05 am #288553
Glee’s directing nomination resulted from Paris Barclay becoming president of the Directors’ Guild of America shortly before the end of the voting period.
I actually find it more surprising that Lynch was snubbed in 2012 rather than re-nominated in 2013. After being double-nominated in 2010 and hosting the ceremony to fairly good reviews in 2011, I found it surprising that many here thought she would be snubbed and even more surprising that it actually happened. I detest Glee for its non-existent direction and inability to properly convey its message, but she has always been the brightest point of the show, even when the writers abandoned everything interesting about her charatcer in the second season.
It’s also important to remember that Lynch gave a terrific performance at the Tony Awards this year, though I doubt that had anything to do with it.July 21, 2013 at 10:09 am #288554
It could be some goodwill from appearing in Annie on broadway. She sang one of her characters songs on Glee so they were practically asking for people to make the connection. It could easily have nothing to do with it but this could be there way of giving her a nomination for both performancesJuly 21, 2013 at 10:10 am #288555
I think people gave up on Lynch because everybody gave up on the show last year and it actually happened once the nominations came out. So why bother with a prediction this year when so many other people 1. Deserved it more, 2. For far better shows, 3. With much more buzz….
Like I said on thursday on the reactions thread, lots of people thought Joosten, Weaver and/or Bialik took out Krakowski, this proves that maybe it was Lynch who was closer to the nomination and was the real victim.
Lynch was always going to be the biggest awards draw for the show, but missing last year and the show sucking so much and lots of people turning on it really made it easy for her to miss on everybody’s predictions. Plus tradition was always on our side, sometimes people do manage to keep coming back (Cryer), sometimes they miss and shockingly come back (Mallick) and sometimes they actually deserve it and do come back (Cranston for Malcolm). But it doesn’t happen that often for us to catch it sooner and suddenly believe Lynch was a possibility. We all rightfully reserved that prediction for Jane Krakowski.
About New Girl. I don’t think ratings hurt here. The show had fallen down hard after FOX’s idiotic scheduling plans ruined the show in the first half of season one. So that couldn’t be it. I think buzz was lost and specially buzz was overrated on this board. I always wanted Johnson to be a nominee but I never bothered with predicting him. I knew it was too much and it never felt like it could happen. Although it would’ve been a welcome surprise. A series nod was always out of the question for me, that one was really foolish for anyone to think it could happen. At least Johnson was in a category where Cryer, Cheadle, LeBlanc could miss and he could benefit.
This might upset people, but the New Girl shock is more GoldDerby’s fault than the Academy’s fault.July 21, 2013 at 10:23 am #288556
Krakowski still was in front of Lynch. 30 Rock got five acting nominations, while Glee got 2. 30 Rock is in its farewell year and was nominated for Series, while Glee probably wasn’t even a factor to get nominated there.
Lynch got in based on name recognition and took benefit from pulverized competition. And she had no buzz, at least not positive buzz for that particular episode, since the episode was hated and critically panned.
Anyway, she’s not winning.
Benito, as for New Girl, I do think we overestimated a bit, but also I don’t believe it was so far from being nominated. They were probably just below the sixth nominee in most categories. Also, many were expecting it to do well because of the FOX campaign. They were going hard for the show, more than any other broadcast network was for their shows. The complete snub really is unexpected because, even though it dipped in the ratings, there was a lot of effort to try to get New Girl nominations. So while we were wrong, the context really allowed to expect either a drop in nominations or it becoming very popular.July 21, 2013 at 10:38 am #288557
I can understand that, but I took it more in a way that made me more secure about predicting Deschanel and Greenfield wouldn’t be a fluke. I confidently put them both in my predictions all along because of this buzz, campaign and effort you’re talking about. At some point I even thought of eliminating Modern Family guys out of my predictions, not putting Will Arnett, considering David Cross, taking Hader out completely, while never affecting Greenfield. And I never once thought Deschanel wouldn’t happen.
But to think the show actually had a shot for Series and the excessive Jake Johnson talk, was just too much for me. They’re both on my dream ballot, but I never believed the hype.July 21, 2013 at 11:20 am #288558
Next year with Alec Baldwin and Jason Bateman out, it’s safe to say that Jake Johnson will get an Emmy nomination next year.July 21, 2013 at 11:45 am #288559
The New Girl snub is also surprising because, while the show’s ratings declines, critics were overwhelmingly positive about the second season and fairly vocal about how much it had improved.
Also the “big kiss” between Jess and Nick generated a lot of buzz for the show. I thought Deschanel, Johnson, and Greenfield would all be nominated. I guess they just stopped watching.July 21, 2013 at 12:36 pm #288560
Don’t know why all of this couldn’t have been included in the Emmy reactions thread, but here goes:
Jane Lynch was in a much-discussed storyline for “Glee” this season involving school violence, and she was in the press for a well-received turn on Broadway in “Annie.” I didn’t predict her, but I’ve said for awhile now that Jane Lynch and/or Betty White could get back in the race with Kathryn Joosten and Kristen Wiig being out of the roster. I never thought they’d snub Jessica Walter for either of those ladies though, so that was a genuine surprise. I’m not furious or anything like that about Lynch’s nod, nor am I over the moon about it. Let’s see what she submits first. I highly doubt she’ll win again, but it’s nice to see aspects of the show back in the race again. It might inspire the show creators to reach back for early series greatness, especially now in light of Cory Monteith’s death where they have an opportunity on their hands for a reboot/rebirth of sorts for all involved if they do it right.
The “New Girl” across-the-board snub was unfortunate and startling, especially considering that the show was better in season 2 than in its debut season, and nominations for Zooey Deschanel, Jake M. Johnson (season MVP by a mile), Max Greenfield, series, directing, writing, guest (notables including Jamie Lee Curtis, Rob Reiner, Dennis Farina, Margo Martindale, etc.), and techs would have been warranted. I’d like to think that it was more about increased competition than an outright and sudden hatred of the series. It wasn’t about the ratings. If season 3 holds up well for them next year, I think they’ll return to the Emmy fold in some form or another, at least with an acting nod and techs.July 21, 2013 at 2:25 pm #288561
I had a really strong feeling that zooey would be snubbed…… But i was really surprised that Max Greenfield didn’t make it in.July 21, 2013 at 3:24 pm #288562
I´ve been thinking about the New Girl snub and if it perhaps had something to do with the way they were campaigning it. I read an interview where one of the producers said that they had chosen the episode “Cooler” (which was the big kiss episode and had gotten lot of press) as the one to send and to campaign for.
I thought Cooler was fine but it surprised me that they didn´t go with Virgins, Menzies, Parking spot (or any combination of those) which were funnier, and in my opinion better episodes. Could one of the problems be (apart from having lots of competition) that they didn´t choose really well how to campaign?July 21, 2013 at 4:06 pm #288563
I saw all the first and second seasons of New GIrl and I thought the toning down and sidelining of Jess was not something I liked that much! And the stories they gave Nick were so silly sometimes. And not funny silly just dumb! I commented a few times on the second season and there was some good stuff I just missed Jess being the lead and only having puppy in a cup and getting involved with Nick as her major high points. Basically Schmidt took over too much! I liked the first season better. I don’t that that goes against the majority opinon that the second season was a lot better I just liked the first season more.July 21, 2013 at 5:40 pm #288564
Thanks all.July 21, 2013 at 6:17 pm #288565
Next year with Alec Baldwin and Jason Bateman out, it’s safe to say that Jake Johnson will get an Emmy nomination next year.
Michael J. Fox is in the midst next season and I think he got a high chance of being nominated, maybe even winning. So that leaves us with one spot and if any of the new comedies really hits it off, his chances might dwindle.