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    So, I get in these really retro moods and all I want to do is watch marathons of old shows, ranging from the 50’s all the way to the present.  I probably have a favorite in each decade.  Anyway, recently I felt the urge to watch Murphy Brown.  I remember the show vaguely as being one that was popular during my youth/adolescence.  Later, when I became fixated with The Mary Tyler Moor Show, still in my top 5 shows of all time, and started tracing back that show’s origins and the shows it itself influenced, I remember thinking of “Murphy Brown” (insultingly, as an 80’s/90’s rip-off).  Now I’m intrigued.

    Upon looking it up on Amazon.com, however, I was shocked to see they’ve only released one season on DVD.  I plan on getting it but I was just curious to see if any of you even remembers this show and if so, did you like it?  If you did or didn’t like it, why?

    It seems like a really interesting premise, to put a recovering alcoholic/addict at the center of a news show.  I really wish more seasons were available.

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    That Don Guy
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    The Digital Bits had a forum with somebody from Warner Home Video a few years ago, and Murphy Brown was brought up.  The response was that the lackluster DVD sales of the first season did not justify what it would cost for the music rights (remember, MB is Motown-heavy) to release further seasons, and they were not about to have a repeat of what happened with WKRP in Cincinnati and substitute music.

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    There used to be quite a few episodes of the 2nd season on Youtube. I haven’t been able to find them recently, but some episodes from season 5 are up, now. It’s not the same, but it’s an outlet.

    I’ve seen several season 2 episodes, and I really admire Bergen’s performance. It’s easy to see how it scored so often with critics and voters. Charles Kimbrough and Faith Ford were pretty impressive, as well. It’s too bad that they never managed to win anything for their performances.

    It’s a real shame that such a veteran program has had to suffer the fate of relative obscurity, especially given how it managed to be a real pop culture force, for a time. You’d think that a 17-time emmy winner would have greater longevity, especially given how it managed to score the top prize not once, but twice. Again, really unfortunate.  I guess that just goes to show how some television shows are a product of their times.  

     

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    It was a show that always employed a lot of topical humor about current events. This made it seem fresh and edgy at the time but now comes across as awfully dated. I think a show like 30 Rock is at risk of finding itself in a similar fate 10 or 15 years from now.

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    Thanks for all of your replies!  I really appreciate the info and opinions.  I’m definitely checking out season 1.  I’m just worried I’ll end up really liking the show and won’t be able to properly view it.

    Re: music rights – can’t they just work out a deal with the record label that owns the songs or whomever owns them?  I mean, would most of them even care that a snippet of their song is on some show from the 90’s?

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    Murphy Brown was in fact (and is) still one of my favorite shows EVER.   I highly, HIGHLY reccomend it.    Yes, the sad part is they only released 1 season on DVD, in-part due to low sales, in part due to high music costs; and I think, In part due to Warner Brothers (the studio behind the series) losing interest in the TV on DVD market, especially for older shows.

    I always liked that the show took on topical issues head-first, it’s political discourse was well-written and always funny. Candice Bergen gave one-hell of a performance and was ballsy, I’ll say that.  The supporting cast was superb as well.   I always thought Faith Ford was underrated and it’s a shame she never won an Emmy for her work.      She really grew a lot over the course of the series.   

    This series was nearly pitch-perfect for most of it’s run, until about the 8th or 9th year when things went haywire; Grant Shaud (Miles) left the series and was replaced by Lily Tomlin, who while hilarious just didn’t gell with the cast.   The only thing worth watching in those final years was the moving and superbly well-done cancer arch with Murphy getting breast cancer.   

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    I’ve seen a few episodes here and there and I would have to agree with rp about the dated topical humor. Roseanne Barr should have taken a couple of the Emmys Bergen won (and her show should have taken Murphy Brown‘s slot in Outstanding Comedy Series).

    Boidiva is right that the show was seen as weak and tired by the time Lily Tomlin joined the cast but I wonder if that would have stopped the Emmy panelists had Bergen not removed her name from consideration.

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    Roseanne Barr should have taken a couple of the Emmys Bergen…

    Though I’m in no position to agree, I will say that I own every season of Roseanne, which is on my top ten best tv shows of all time list.  Love, love, love it.

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    I’ve seen a few episodes here and there and I would have to agree with rp about the dated topical humor. Roseanne Barr should have taken a couple of the Emmys Bergen won (and her show should have taken Murphy Brown‘s slot in Outstanding Comedy Series).

    Boidiva is right that the show was seen as weak and tired by the time Lily Tomlin joined the cast but I wonder if that would have stopped the Emmy panelists had Bergen not removed her name from consideration.

    I believethat if Candice hadn’t removed her name from consideration she would have won once or twice more, but as competition increased into the 90’s she wouldnt’ have bee the lock that she previously had.   I do believe the Cancer story was strong enough she likely would have won for that.

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    Even Helen Hunt thought Candice Bergen would have won for the cancer storyline. When she won in 1998, she praised the other nominees and singled out Bergen. She talked about the quality of her performances during that season and acknowledged that she wouldn’t be standing on the stage if Bergen had entered her name.

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    Even Helen Hunt thought Candice Bergen would have won for the cancer storyline. When she won in 1998, she praised the other nominees and singled out Bergen. She talked about the quality of her performances during that season and acknowledged that she wouldn’t be standing on the stage if Bergen had entered her name.

    It took some doing, but I found the clip of this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO6vMtSeOq8   (It’s about 7 minuets in… She does mention Candice in fact!)…

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    While I like Candice Bergen, she did NOT deserve five Emmys for Murphy Brown.

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    Bought the set at Target for 11 bux.  Saw the first two episodes and I already like the show.  Bergen’s singing is something else, lol.

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    The series got better each season, at least for the first 5-6 years… Things started going haywire when Grant Shaud left the series… It sort of just never recovered from that.   

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    I even did the right thing and found a Murphy Brown thread to post this instead of starting a new one (humble brag haha)

    http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/2013/12/09/%E2%80%98murphy-brown%E2%80%99-cast-to-reunite-on-%E2%80%98katie%E2%80%99/

    Glad to see they are reuniting. I did love this show back in the day. I even had the Murphy Brown soundtrack (lots of Motown songs & dialogue snippets, kinda like the China Beach soundtrack. Brilliant, but I digress). I do hate that it is on Katie though. Why does God hate me?

    I do think its legacy suffered because of its extreme topicality and of the moment skewering. But there are some good things in there. I hate that Faith Ford never won an Emmy for this role. Hard to believe it’s been 25 years! I do have season 1 on DVD. Found it at a used store about a year ago.      

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