July 31, 2012 at 10:28 am #253978
AHS, tying with Mad Men, received 17 nominations:
– Outstanding Miniseries or Movie
– Lead Actress, Connie Britton
– Supporting Actor, Denis O’Hare
– Supporting Actress, Frances Conroy
– Supporting Actress, Jessica Lange
– Art Direction for a Miniseries/Telefilm – “Pilot”
– Art Direction for a Miniseries/Telefilm – “Open House”
– Casting for a Miniseries/Telefilm/Special
– Costumes for a Miniseries/Telefilm/Special
– Hairstyling for a Miniseries/Telefilm
– Main Title Design
– Make-up for a Miniseries/Telefilm (Non-Prosthetic)
– Prosthetic Makeup for a Miniseries/Telefilm
– Single-Camera Picture Editing for a Miniseries/Telefilm
– Sound Editing for a Miniseries/Telefilm/Special
– Sound Mixing for a Miniseries/Telefilm
– Stunt Coordination
I’m referring to the major categories of course. I don’t think it would have been placed in Drama Series. If so, it would have been battling that last spot very heavily with Boardwalk Empire and The Good Wife.
With Laurie and Grammer out, and Bonneville and Hall being mere filler, I think maybe Dylan McDermott could have jumped in Lead Actor.
Lead Actress was again sort of wide open. With Connie Britton on Emmy’s radar the last two years, it wouldn’t have been too shocking to see her get in (at the expense of Kathy Bates or the almost-forgotten Glenn Close).
Supporting Actor would have potentially had Denis O’Hare. Those Downton Abbey shockeroos threw everything off.
Supporting Actress would have still had the lock of the night, Jessica Lange. Frances Conroy probably would not have made it in.
Guest Actress, Sarah Paulson, would be a double-nominee because she would have got in Guest Drama Actress plus received the nomination she currently has in Telefilm Supporting Actress for Game Change.
As tight as Directing was (not even a nom for Game of Thrones‘s “Blackwater” for crying out loud!), I figured Ryan Murphy would have got in there.
I didn’t see it getting in The Mad Men Lockdown Category, err, Writing that is. I am surprised to not see it in Writing in the Miniseries/Telefilm category though.
So, with this move, a Best Miniseries/Telefilm nom, and possibly Britton’s nom, was a success.
With it not being where it should have been in Drama Series, it cost Paulson (Guest) and Murphy (Directing) a spot, and maybe McDermott (Lead Actor) a spot.
And another question…How can a telefilm/miniseries (or anything for that matter) be nominated in both Prosthetic Makeup and Nonprosthetic Makeup? Has this happened before and what are the rules?July 31, 2012 at 10:36 am #253980
If it was campaigned in the drama categories, I’d only see Lange, Main Title Design, then probably three more tech nominations for the show. No way will it even achieve past ten nominations.July 31, 2012 at 10:37 am #253981
^ Yep.July 31, 2012 at 10:40 am #253982
I don’t think it would have gotten that many acting nominations, in my opinion, it probably would have only gotten Supporting Actress for Lange.
Bonneville and the Downton Guys don’t really seem like filler nominees, they just seem to be part of the intense love the Academy had for Downton Abbey, so I doubt McDermott and O’Hare (who wasn’t able to get into this category for his praised role in “True Blood”) would have gotten in. Connie Britton would be a wildshot, since she has been in the Emmy radar, but Drama Lead Actress is a stacked category. I’m pretty sure Conroy wasn’t a part of the main cast, so she would have probably submitted in Guest and have gotten a nomination.July 31, 2012 at 10:41 am #253983
I was surprised Denis O’Hare got in as it was. I couldn’t imagine him breaking through into supporting actor for a drama.July 31, 2012 at 10:48 am #253984
What iskolar said.July 31, 2012 at 10:48 am #253985
Lange would have gotten in of course, and Conroy would have if she had been submitted in Guest. Britton would have been a dark horse to get in Lead Actress, probably over Close, but O’Hare and especially McDermott would have stood no chance.July 31, 2012 at 10:55 am #253986
Hahahahahaha, Dylan McDermott was my favorite thing about that show, but for all the wrong reasons. He was absolutely terrible, and I was entertained by the cheesy lines, the naked ass, and over the top histrionics of his. No way he would’ve made it in Lead Actor. Grammer, Olyphant and even Hoffman all would before have been nominated before him. Even people who like this show for real think he was doing some very bad work. I would’ve loved to see him nominated though, just so voters would watch him develiver priceless awful lines like “Fine, let’s discuss the brain eating”, “You got a dog!” and “You’re a murderer! MUR-DUH-RER!”.
Thing is, I don’t buy that the Emmys truly love AHS. It benefited from a weaker year for minisseries. In fact, I doubt Britton, O’Hare and Conroy would’ve gotten nominations in Drama either. In fact, you can notice they were filler nominations by the simple fact that even though the show somehow managed to get in with tons of categories, it was still snubbed for both writing and directing (categories they would have trouble get in considering the reception everywhere else, but they didn’t because they don’t really like it that much). The actors only got in because of name recognition and voter’s laziness to actually watch under the radar minis and films.July 31, 2012 at 11:13 am #253987
I would need to look at the list of nominations again to see what dramas were nominated in the tech categories, but it is plausible that it would’ve done double digit nominations. Jessica Lange and possibly Frances Conroy would’ve been the only acting nominations.July 31, 2012 at 11:23 am #253988
I feel like people here underestimated Downton Abbey, and now you guys are doing the same to AHS.
Yes. I think AHS would have been successful in the regular drama category (except maybe O’Hare wouldn’t have gotten nominated, and Conroy would have gone guest…and they would probably have a few other guest nominations).July 31, 2012 at 11:37 am #253989
^ AHS still wouldn’t get nominated for Best Drama, not over any of those 6 shows, and it would’ve had a hard getting in Directing, and even harder one getting in writing, since, you know, the writing completely sucks. Maybe if Conroy went guest she would be nomianted, fine, but Britton in Lead is something I seriously doubt.
And who underestimated “Downton Abbey”? No one expected to see ALL the submitted actors (besides McGovern) nominated, but Series, Directing, Writing, techs and Smith were all expected.July 31, 2012 at 12:21 pm #253990
With all the talk of Conroy submitting in Guest and getting in, do you think it would have been at the expense of the much better guest star, Sarah Paulson, or would they have both been nominated together?July 31, 2012 at 12:42 pm #253991
If Conroy went Guest and got nominated, I really have no idea who’ll she bumps off. Uma Thurman? I don’t think Conroy will make it in Guest. The same goes for Paulson.
And if McDermott can’t make it in a lesser crowded Movie/Mini Lead Actor (who got six nominees), then the chances of him getting in Lead Actor, Drama is really small to none. I’d even name tten guys who’ll make it before him: Cranston, Hamm, Lewis, Buscemi, Bonneville, Hall, Grammer, Laurie, Olyphant, Hoffman, Macy.July 31, 2012 at 2:09 pm #253992
The only major nomination would have been for Jessica Lange. Nothing else during the prime-time ceremony categories.
The very intelligent network executives looked at the playing field and made the correct decision to get the most bids.July 31, 2012 at 2:13 pm #253993
In the drama field, I think “American Horror Story” might have cleared half or less of what it received in the miniseries/made for television film field. The only acting competitive acting nod would have been for Jessica Lange at the expense of someone, so that knocks off Britton, O’Hare, and Conroy. There’s no corresponding writing/directing nods to go for. I don’t think drama series would have happened as competitive as that category is. It’s the techs where this could have racked up nods, and with such an effects-heavy series, there’s makeup, costumes, art direction, cinematography, editing, main title design, score, etc. I could see some nominees being knocked off for “AHS” or this added on as a nominee. So half of their current tally (being generous) in the drama field, but not near being the nominations co-frontrunner.