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  • ThiagoGarcia
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    I have been binge-watching The Office for some weeks now and cannot believe Steve Carell didn’t win the Emmy for this role, specially considering he lost to Jim Parsons twice. I know, I know… episodes matter and Sheldon Cooper is much showyer than Michael Scott, but still, I will never forgive Emmy voters.

    I don’t wacht Parks and Recreation (should I?), but I know people love Amy Poehler on it and she is still Emmy-less. Since I cannot see Julia Louis-Dreyfus losing this year (or any year), do you guys think Amy Poehler might never win the Emmy for Parks? And if so, would that be as unforgivable as not rewarding Steve Carell for The Office? Are they on the same level?

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    Ryan Lapierre
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    Sadly its to late for poor Steve. And with Amy will not take home the emmy with Julia around. I personally think Parks and Rec is not worthy of emmys. Office is much better.

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    BenitoDelicias
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    If you like The Office, chances are you’ll like Parks too. The poster above me obviously doesn’t feel the same, but I and some others I have recommended the show as fans of The Office, have loved Parks too. 

    I do think Poehler and Carrell are on the same level. It will be as ridiculous if Poehler ends up Emmy-less, and it’s as likely as it was for Carrell three years ago (3? 4?) when he lost his final nomination. I seriously believe she will never win for this role. I think she has a better shot at winning for writing the Finale or something.

    They’re not however on the same level in terms of submissions, Carrell had at least one great submission (not the Finale) can’t remember which one it was right now, but he did have at least one. And submissions aside he didn’t need to loose his final nomination or against Gervais, for example. I don’t think Poehler has ever had the best tape in her category, for many it’s Flu Season, for me it’s not. So on that part they’re not on the same level.

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    CanadianFan
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    Amy Poehler not winning for Parks & Rec is bad, but I don’t think it’s as bad as Carell not winning.

    As far as people who should be pissed off at Emmy voters, I’d rank them:

    1. Steve Carell
    2. Amy Poehler
    3. Jon Hamm 

    I’m so glad I don’t have to include Stephen Colbert on that list. 

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    Gabriel
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    I thought Carell’s final submission tape was amazing, but he should have won multiple times before then anyway. Poehler will never win, and I do think it will be a shame. But then at the end of the day it’s just an arbitrary award that has never been about honoring the best work, so I’ve learned not to care.

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    Steve Carell?  They guy who decided he was too famous for TV deserved an Emmy?  Ge the heck out of here.  After a couple years of botched submissions he then rightfully lost to Alec Baldwin and Jim Parsons.  To bad so sad.  If anyone from the office was truly snubbed it was Rain Wilson. 

    Amy Poehler is sevearly overdue.  I love Veep (an personally I find Parks and Rec to be tired at this point) but JLD shouldn’t have three Emmy’s (for Veep – 5 Total) where Poehler has 0.  

    Jennifer Garner is someone else who should have easily won with the Pilot of Alias… It pains me Garner won everything except the Emmy. 

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    I love that Carell did not submit for guest last year, they had their chance and once again showed just how much the Emmys do not matter. I wish Bob Newhart would have done the same.

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    Steve Carell?  They guy who decided he was too famous for TV deserved an Emmy?  Ge the heck out of here.  After a couple years of botched submissions he then rightfully lost to Alec Baldwin and Jim Parsons.  To bad so sad.  If anyone from the office was truly snubbed it was Rain Wilson. 
     

    Huh. Apparently it’s not okay to move on to focus on his already busy film career after 7 years with a TV show?

     

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    Morgan Henard
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    [quote=”BogieMiller”]Steve Carell?  They guy who decided he was too famous for TV deserved an Emmy?  Ge the heck out of here.  After a couple years of botched submissions he then rightfully lost to Alec Baldwin and Jim Parsons.  To bad so sad.  If anyone from the office was truly snubbed it was Rain Wilson. 
     

    Huh. Apparently it’s not okay to move on to focus on his already busy film career after 7 years with a TV show?[/quote]

    Yeah, what are you talking about BogieMiller? He turned in seven great years worth of performances. Some people leave a TV series and immediately begin work on another (Lauren Graham, Patricia Heaton, Kelsey Grammar, etc) whereas others segue to another medium. Speaking of… Has Jennifer Garner done a single series since Alias ended? 

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    Next year will be both Parks and Poehler’s final year, so she will have a buzz advantage then that Carell didn’t. 

    I love JLD and her work on Veep is certainly deserving, but Poehler really should have an Emmy by now and everytime JDL beats her (I assume it’ll happen this year again) it’s really disappointing. 

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    Steve Carell should have won for “The Office” at least once. It’s pretty shameful that he never won. But as he’s inching closer and closer toward being Oscarbound, I’m sure he’ll get over these Emmy slights sooner rather than later.

    It would be nice to see Amy Poehler winning an Emmy at some point in her career, but I don’t see her losses as being on the same level as Carell’s. And she has other avenues besides acting, like writing, directing, and hosting, to win her Emmy in the future. It likely won’t be for “Parks & Recreation,” but for something else instead.

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    Steve Carrell should have won for either seasons two or three. Honestly, even when The Office was at its peak he wasn’t one of my absolute favorite things about the series, but it’s fairly nauseating that Parsons has multiple Emmys and Cryer managed one, and Carrell was left empty. Seasons two and three of P&R were years where Poehler would have been a worthy winner as well. Voters just don’t go for these mockumentary, awkward comedies, at least not in the acting categories. 

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    And she has other avenues besides acting, like writing, directing, and hosting, to win her Emmy in the future. It likely won’t be for “Parks & Recreation,” but for something else instead.

    Sadly, none of those ventures have resulted in a win either. She’s 0/10 at the Primetime Emmys and 0/2 at the Daytime Emmys. Ironically, that’s 12 losses across seven categories:
    – Supp. Actress in a Comedy (SNL): 2008, 2009
    – Lead Actress in a Comedy (P&R): 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
    – Comedy Series (P&R): 2011
    – Writing in a Comedy Series (“The Debate,” P&R): 2012
    – Writing for a Variety Special (70th Annual Golden Globes): 2013
    – Special Class Program (70th Annual Golden Globes): 2013

    Daytime Emmys
    – Animated Program Voiceover (The Mighty B!): 2009, 2010 

    That’s seven different categories since 2008. Is that some kind of record? If it was ever gonna happen for P&R, it would have had to have been over Melissa McCarthy (and it’s a shame it didn’t). At this point, she’s gonna have to do a guest spot on Law & Order: SVU to be competitive for a win. 

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    [quote=”Atypical”]

    And she has other avenues besides acting, like writing, directing, and hosting, to win her Emmy in the future. It likely won’t be for “Parks & Recreation,” but for something else instead.

    Sadly, none of those ventures have resulted in a win either. She’s 0/10 at the Primetime Emmys and 0/2 at the Daytime Emmys. Ironically, that’s 12 losses across seven categories:
    – Supp. Actress in a Comedy (SNL): 2008, 2009
    – Lead Actress in a Comedy (P&R): 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
    – Comedy Series (P&R): 2011
    – Writing in a Comedy Series (“The Debate,” P&R): 2012
    – Writing for a Variety Special (70th Annual Golden Globes): 2013
    – Special Class Program (70th Annual Golden Globes): 2013

    Daytime Emmys
    – Animated Program Voiceover (The Mighty B!): 2009, 2010 

    That’s seven different categories since 2008. Is that some kind of record? If it was ever gonna happen for P&R, it would have had to have been over Melissa McCarthy (and it’s a shame it didn’t). At this point, she’s gonna have to do a guest  spot on Law & Order: SVU to be competitive for a win. 

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    Yeah, it looks worse when it’s all listed out like that. But anything’s possible. Amy Poehler could win the Emmy for a random episode of “Louie” next year for all we know. Things like that happen when they happen.

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    Morgan Henard
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    [quote=”Morgan_Henard”][quote=”Atypical”]

    And she has other avenues besides acting, like writing, directing, and hosting, to win her Emmy in the future. It likely won’t be for “Parks & Recreation,” but for something else instead.

    Sadly, none of those ventures have resulted in a win either. She’s 0/10 at the Primetime Emmys and 0/2 at the Daytime Emmys. Ironically, that’s 12 losses across seven categories:
    – Supp. Actress in a Comedy (SNL): 2008, 2009
    – Lead Actress in a Comedy (P&R): 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
    – Comedy Series (P&R): 2011
    – Writing in a Comedy Series (“The Debate,” P&R): 2012
    – Writing for a Variety Special (70th Annual Golden Globes): 2013
    – Special Class Program (70th Annual Golden Globes): 2013

    Daytime Emmys
    – Animated Program Voiceover (The Mighty B!): 2009, 2010 

    That’s seven different categories since 2008. Is that some kind of record? If it was ever gonna happen for P&R, it would have had to have been over Melissa McCarthy (and it’s a shame it didn’t). At this point, she’s gonna have to do a guest  spot on Law & Order: SVU to be competitive for a win. 

    [/quote]

    Yeah, it looks worse when it’s all listed out like that. But anything’s possible. Amy Poehler could win the Emmy for a random episode of “Louie” next year for all we know. Things like that happen when they happen.[/quote]

    True. Even though for Steve Carell, it didn’t happen. The irony to that is I am never excited or passionate about anyone in Comedy Lead Actor. It’s the one category where some of my favorite contenders have just been nominated (e.g. Carell, John Goodman, Paul Reiser) or completely snubbed of a nomination (Thomas Jane, Jason Lee). Yet it remains a rubber-stamped category. I didn’t even mind Jon Cryer winning because of several reasons: 1) He was finally winning in the category where he should have been nominated the whole time [His win in Supporting over NPH and Rainn Wilson remains one of this ceremony’s biggest mistakes, borderlining a questioning of their credibility]; 2) He had the best submission; 3) There was no one else worth rooting for. I would like to see Matt LeBlanc, Thomas Middleditch, or Andy Samberg take it this year, but I have no doubt that Jim Parsons will four-peat. 

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