May 3, 2013 at 9:14 am #274963
Variety stars were bumped to the comedy supporting races after the Emmys dumped the variety performance category, but when I was taking a look back at the years since that happened, I saw that in 2008 Amy Poehler was nominated for Comedy Supporting Actress while Tina Fey earned an Variety Performance nomination for hosting “SNL.”
It was only 5 years ago, but I’m drawing a blank as to why there was that overlap. If there was still a Variety Performance category, why wasn’t Amy Poehler competing there instead of Comedy Supporting Actress?May 3, 2013 at 10:19 am #274965
Was Amy Poehler still a cast member then? Maybe they were making a distinction between a host (one-time performance) and a cast member, who’s supporting week in and week out?May 3, 2013 at 10:56 am #274966
The Emmys got rid of the variety performance category in 2009. Variety series regulars were first sent to the comedy supporting categories in 2008. The 2008 rules did not allow SNL hosts to submit as comedy guest actors, so Fey was submitted and nominated in variety performance.
(The 2009 Emmy rules also didn’t indicate that SNL guest stars could be submitted in the comedy guest acting categories, but Timberlake and Fey were submitted there anyway and ATAS didn’t stop them. They both won, even though nothing in the rules that year indicated they were allowed to be submitted.)May 3, 2013 at 4:34 pm #274967
Do you remember what the reasoning was behind moving “SNL” stars to the supporting races while there was still a Variety Performance category? That year, Steven Colbert and David Letterman were both nominated for Variety Performance, so it apparently didn’t affect all continuing variety series and performers.May 3, 2013 at 4:45 pm #274968
The rules that year were that you stayed in Variety Performance if your name was in the title of the show (Colbert, Letterman, etc.), but went to comedy supporting if your name wasn’t in the title of the show (SNL regulars).
I don’t remember any official reasoning being given. The rules came out and that’s what they said.May 3, 2013 at 9:40 pm #274969
The rule has been the same since 2008. Series regulars on sketch comedy shows can submit in Supporting Actor/ Actress in a Comedy Series. That’s how we got one of the most outrageous entries of all time: Tracey Ullman competing as a supporting actress for “State of the Union” when the whole show was about her.
There was nothing about a performer’s name being in the title of the show. The rule has always been about performers on sketch comedies. I guess the reasoning is that they play characters so they act. People like Letterman and Colbert don’t appear in sketch comedies. They are talk show hosts, deliver monologues and interview guests. Some people have argued that Colbert is always in character but let’s be honest, his work is closer to late night hosts like Jon Stewart than “Saturday Night Live” cast members like Jason Sudeikis.May 3, 2013 at 10:18 pm #274970
There was nothing
about a performer’s name being in the title of the show.
From page 42 of the 2008 Emmy rules:
Series regulars on sketch comedy shows must enter in either Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series or Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series. They are no longer eligible in 65 – Individual Performance in a Variety or Music Program unless the performer/host’s name is in the title of a variety-music series or special.
For whatever the reason, they wanted the late night hosts to stay in the variety performance category that year and SNL regulars to submit in the comedy categories.May 4, 2013 at 12:41 pm #274971
Thank you for the correction. I don’t remember that part of the rule at all. Maybe because it was later eliminated along with the Variety Performance category?
I know Tracey Ullman was submitted in the supporting category in 2009 but does anyone remember where she submitted in 2008? According to this rule, even though she was a regular in a sketch comedy, she must have entered in Variety Performance because her name was in the title of her show.