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    #361808

    HBO has the most money to spend on awareness; It’s why they’ve for so many years had the most noms. So it’s not surprising that with the rule change opening up voting and not making people watch stuff they didn’t already watch, HBO won so much.

    Last year HBO only won ONE drama award (Dir), ONE comedy award (Actress), and ONE longform award (TV Movie).
    This year they have 
    Drama – Series, Writing, Directing, Sup Actor
    Comedy – Series, Writing, Actress, Sup Actor
    Longform – TV Movie, Limited Series, Actress, Actor, S Actor, Wtg, Dir

    So from 3 majors to 15 – 400% increase. FISHY.

    Is this a permanent major factor to hang over the awards as long as the panels are gone, or is it just a random aberration that everything came together to give HBO most of the wins in each genre? 

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    Guest2014
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    #361810

    Are they?  That’s all they’ve ever been for the 21st century and a significant part of the end of the 20th. Time for Cable Ace Awards resurrection so broadcast networks can get their fair share. 

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    They are tbh, but this was inevitable once they got rid of blue ribbon panels, if they don’t get them back next year the winners will look more and more ridiculous. 

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    jf123
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    I honestly think the result would be the same with the old system, with a few changes of course (Chlumsky instead of Janney, but Hale loosing to Burgess).

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    I honestly think the result would be the same with the old system, with a few changes of course (Chlumsky instead of Janney, but Hale loosing to Burgess).

    There is not one universe where Allison Janney would lose to Anna Chlumsky in any voting.  

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    It is just a coincidence.  Game of Thrones, Olive Kitteridge and Bessie were winning under any system.  Veep probably was too, but you never know what Modern Family might have been able to do with tape submissions, since I think that Orange is the New Black might have beaten it last year under the new system.  The new system is susceptible to sweeps, so since HBO happened to be winning the big ones this year, they were able to win most of the smaller awards as well because of the new system.  If the new system had come into effect last year, we would have seen an AMC sweep in drama.  And yeah, Chlumsky would not have beaten Janney.

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    ^Yes, I also think this new system benefited Veep the most. It’s not a straight-out comedy like Modern Family, so it wouldn’t have won easily under the tape system. And Modern Family always manages to produce at least 6 really funny episodes every season. Their mockumentary style helps them to look different than other traditional sit-coms.(Although their scripts were no actually not much different than those.) It’s not as edgy as Louie. Not as old-fashioned as TBBT. It’s the perfect match for both younger and older voters.

    GoT, Olive and Bessie were already done deals.  I don’t even think tapes matter much in non-comedy races, anyway. Especially when with this level of support from various branches is in the conversation. (Veep didn’t have exactly that, that’s why it was in the risky situation.)

    In the end, yeah, the only big difference would be MF winning for the 6th time and Goldderby exploding.

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    I think there were too much wishful thinking with Mad Men…GoT didn’t have a real competition this year under any system. 

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    Sticky this thread so that we can easily look at it next year.

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    The HBO circlejerk last night was a disaster for Fox.  Emmy ratings, as expected, got drive-by’d.
    http://deadline.com/2015/09/emmy-awards-ratings-down-viola-davis-game-of-thrones-seahawks-packers-nfl-nbc-fox-1201540953/

    Down 20% from last year, 25% from 2013. 

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    The HBO circlejerk last night was a disaster for Fox.  Emmy ratings, as expected, got drive-by’d.
    http://deadline.com/2015/09/emmy-awards-ratings-down-viola-davis-game-of-thrones-seahawks-packers-nfl-nbc-fox-1201540953/

    Down 20% from last year, 25% from 2013. 

    No. HBO’s wins weren’t much of a factor. Anybody could’ve won and the ratings weren’t going to be pretty. If Continuum swept the Drama categories for example the ratings were still going to suck. That’s what happens when you’re up against a rematch of the NFC Championship Game and the Subway Series.

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    The HBO Excellence Awards lol? That’s hot. You should trademark that. #HBODominance

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    The HBO Excellence Awards lol? That’s hot. You should trademark that. #HBODominance

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    HBO has the most money to spend on awareness; It’s why they’ve for so many years had the most noms. So it’s not surprising that with the rule change opening up voting and not making people watch stuff they didn’t already watch, HBO won so much.

    Last year HBO only won ONE drama award (Dir), ONE comedy award (Actress), and ONE longform award (TV Movie).
    This year they have 
    Drama – Series, Writing, Directing, Sup Actor
    Comedy – Series, Writing, Actress, Sup Actor
    Longform – TV Movie, Limited Series, Actress, Actor, S Actor, Wtg, Dir

    So from 3 majors to 15 – 400% increase. FISHY.

    Is this a permanent major factor to hang over the awards as long as the panels are gone, or is it just a random aberration that everything came together to give HBO most of the wins in each genre? 

    Time to discreetly slash HBO’s promotion budget, then…there needs to be a level playing field. 

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    HBO has the most money to spend on awareness; It’s why they’ve for so many years had the most noms. So it’s not surprising that with the rule change opening up voting and not making people watch stuff they didn’t already watch, HBO won so much.

    Last year HBO only won ONE drama award (Dir), ONE comedy award (Actress), and ONE longform award (TV Movie).
    This year they have 
    Drama – Series, Writing, Directing, Sup Actor
    Comedy – Series, Writing, Actress, Sup Actor
    Longform – TV Movie, Limited Series, Actress, Actor, S Actor, Wtg, Dir

    So from 3 majors to 15 – 400% increase. FISHY.

    Is this a permanent major factor to hang over the awards as long as the panels are gone, or is it just a random aberration that everything came together to give HBO most of the wins in each genre? 

    Time to discreetly slash HBO’s promotion budget, then…there needs to be a level playing field. 

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