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  • Gone_Guy
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    #344430

    Like the Drama category, this is a poll/discussion to vote for which comedy
    actor or actress you think has zero chance of getting a fourth or higher
    nomination. 

    First things first: There are 14 contenders eligible for this poll
    (prerequisites being that they were nominated last year, and are up this year
    for their fourth or higher nomination for the same role/series in the same
    category). However. Gold Derby polls only allow 10 options. So I had to make a
    choice to as of which four to eliminate. They were Jim Parsons, Julia Louis-Dreyfus,
    Ty Burrell, and Julie Bowen.

    The reason I did not include them was because three of the four of them won
    last year. Parsons stands at 4/6 for “The Big Bang Theory.” Julia Louis-Dreyfus
    stands at 3/3 for “Veep.” And Ty Burrell stands at 2/5 for “Modern Family.” I
    also omitted Julie Bowen because she not only has five consecutive nominations,
    but two back-to-back wins.

    Now, by all means, if you think one of those four should have been kept in the
    poll so you could have given them your vote, just mention that in your
    response. Nothing is off limits with the Emmys. They may be tired of seeing
    Parsons and/or Louis-Dreyfus winning, and therefore give them a snub. They have
    eliminated Eric Stonestreet, Sofia Vergara, and Ed O’Neil, so they may decide
    to Burrell and Bowen to them, even if they have never missed a nomination and
    have won twice.

    Again, the only reason those four aren’t on here are because of the 10-options
    cap.

    Two-timers up for a third: Adam Driver for “Girls,” Tony Hale for “Veep,” and
    Anna Chlumsky for “Veep.” And let us not forget about Merritt Wever for “Nurse
    Jackie.” She had two consecutive nominations, winning the latter, and then was
    dropped last year. If she were brought back (it just happened to Jane Lynch for
    “Glee” in this very category), it would be her third nomination.

    Louis C.K., “Louie”
    – He has been nominated the last 4 years.
    – He lost in 2011, 2013, and 2014 to Jim Parsons. In 2012, he lost to Jon Cryer.

    – For “Louie,” C.K. has been nominated for a total of 13 Emmys: 4 in Lead
    Actor, 4 for Writing, 3 for Directing, 2 for Comedy Series. 
    – He won Writing in 2012 (“Pregnant”) and 2014 (“So Did the Fat Lady”).
    – Additional wins in Writing for a Variety Special in both 2013 for “Louis
    C.K.: Oh My God” and 2012 for “Louis C.K.: Live at the Beacon Theater”.
    – First Emmy win in 1999 for Writing in a Variety or Music Program for “The
    Chris Rock Show.”
    – His Emmy record stands at 5/30.

    – Factoid: C.K. has a total of 30 Emmy nominations total, more than any other
    actor that’s ever been nominated in Lead Actor Comedy. His closest competition
    is Larry David, a five-time Lead Actor nominee with a total of 24 Emmy
    nominations.

    Don Cheadle, “House of Lies”
    – He has been nominated the last three years.
    – He lost the last two years to Jim Parsons. The year before that, he lost to
    Jon Cryer.

    – Additional four nominations: 1999 Lead Actor in a Miniseries/Telefilm for “A
    Lesson Before Dying” (lost to Stanley Lucci for “Winchell”), 1999 Supporting
    Actor in a Miniseries/Telefilm for “The Rat Pack” (lost to Peter O’Toole for “Joan
    of Arc”), 2002 Supporting Actor in a Miniseries/Telefilm for “Things Behind the
    Sun” (lost to Michael Moriarty for “James Dean”), and 2003 Guest Drama Actor
    for “E.R” (lost to Charles S. Dutton for “Without a Trace”).
    – His Emmy record stands at 0/7 for five different roles.

    – Factoid: If Cheadle is nominated for a fourth time, he will make history as the second
    most nominated African American male for the same role in any category. If he
    wins, he will be only the second African American in this category’s history to
    win. In both factoids, Cheadle is second to Robert Guillaume for “Benson,” who
    stands at 1 win out of 5 nominations. Cheadle is the ninth African American to
    receive a nomination in this category. The other eight are Bill Cosby for “The
    Bill Cosby Show” (1970), Lloyd Haynes for “Room 222” (1970), Redd Foxx for
    “Sanford and Son” (1972-1974), Robert Guillaume for “Benson” (1980, 1982-1985,
    winning in 85), Sherman Hemsley for “The Jeffersons” (1984), Tim Reid for
    “Frank’s Place” (1988), Bernie Mac for “The Bernie Mac Show” (2002-2003), and
    Cheadle.  

    Matt LeBlanc, “Episodes”
    – He has been nominated three times in the last four years, ineligible in 2012.
    – He lost all three times to Jim Parsons.

    – Additional three consecutive nominations for “Friends” in 2002 (lost to Ray
    Romano for “Everybody Loves Raymond”), 2003 (lost to Tony Shalhoub for “Monk”),
    and 2004 (lost to Kelsey Grammer for “Frasier”).
    – His Emmy record stands at 0/6.

    – Factoid: He is the only star of “Friends” to receive a nomination for something
    else in the same category (Lead Actor Comedy). Post-“Friends,” Jennifer Aniston
    was nominated for Guest Actress Comedy in 2009 for “30 Rock” (she won Lead for
    “Friends”). Lisa Kudrow was nominated for Lead Actress Comedy in 2006 for “The
    Comeback” (she won Supporting for “Friends”). Matthew Perry could share the
    title with LeBlanc this upcoming year, if he gets in Lead Actor Comedy for “The
    Odd Couple.” In-fact, five of the six “Friends” are Emmy-eligible this year:
    LeBlanc and Perry in Lead Actor Comedy; Lisa Kudrow in Lead Actress Comedy
    (“The Comeback”); David Schwimmer in Guest Actor Comedy (“Episodes”); and
    Courteney Cox in Lead Actress Comedy (for the sixth and final season of “Cougar
    Town”). Jennifer Aniston has nothing eligible for the Emmys, but she did just
    come off of first-time film nominations at the Critics Choice, Golden Globe,
    and SAG Awards for her indie drama, “Cake.”   
     

    Lena Dunham, “Girls”
    – She has been nominated the last three years.
    – She lost all three times to Julia Louis-Dreyfus.

    – Additional 5 nominations for “Girls:” 2 for Comedy Series, 2 for Directing,
    and 1 for Writing.
    – Her Emmy record stands at 0/8.

    Factoid: Dunham has only ever been eligible for “Girls” is up for the same
    categories for the fourth season (Series, Lead Actress, Writing, Directing).
    However, she is also up for two additional roles in two different categories:
    Guest Actress in a Drama for “Scandal” and Best Voiceover Performance for “The
    Simpsons.”

    Edie Falco, “Nurse Jackie”
    – She has been nominated five times for “Nurse Jackie,” winning for season 1 in
    2010.
    – She lost in 2011 to Melissa McCarthy. She lost the last three years to Julia
    Louis-Dreyfus.

    – Additional three wins out of six nominations in Lead Actress Drama for “The Sopranos.”
    – Additional nom in 2008 for Guest Comedy Actress for “30 Rock.”
    – Her Emmy record stands at 4/12.

    – Factoid: If Falco gets a sixth nomination, she will be the most nominated
    performer from a Showtime series (for said series), male or female, including
    comedy or drama. Right now, she is tied with Michael C. Hall for “Dexter,” who
    also received five acting nominations.  

    Melissa McCarthy, “Mike & Molly”
    – She has been nominated three times in the last four years, winning in 2011
    for season 1.
    – She missed out on a nomination for the show’s third season.
    – In 2014 and 2012, she lost to Julia Louis-Dreyfus.

    – Additional three consecutive nominations in Guest Comedy Actress for
    “Saturday Night Live” in 2012 (lost to Kathy Bates for “Two and a Half Men”),
    2013 (lost to Melissa Leo for “Louie”), and 2014 (lost to Uzo Aduba for “Orange
    is the New Black”).
    – Her Emmy record stands at 1/6.

    – Factoid: Despite an Emmy win and three nominations, she has never been
    nominated at the Globes, SAGs, Television Critics Choice, or TCA for “Mike
    & Molly.” In-fact, she’s never been nominated for a Golden Globe at all.
    She does have Oscar, BAFTA, and SAG nominations for “Bridesmaids.” Four seasons
    in, she is the only acting nomination, and win, “Mike & Molly” has
    received. It has three nominations in Cinematography for a Multi-Camera Series,
    and two nominations for Art-Direction for a Multi-Camera Series. Its Emmy
    record stands at 1/8.

    Amy Poehler, “Parks and Recreation”
    – She has been nominated the last five years.
    – In 2010, she lost to Edie Falco. In 2011, she lost to Melissa McCarthy. The
    last three years, she has lost to Julia Louis-Dreyfus.

    – Additional two nominations for “Parks and Recreation,” one in Writing in 2012
    (“The Debate”) and the other in Comedy Series in 2013.
    – Additional four nominations for the “2013 Golden Globe Awards” and “2014
    Golden Globe Awards.”
    – Additional two consecutive nominations in Supporting Actress in a Comedy
    Series for “Saturday Night Live” in 2008 (losing to Jean Smart for “Samantha
    Who”) and 2009 (losing to Kristin Chenoweth for “Pushing Daisies”).
    – She also two consecutive Daytime Emmy nominations for Outstanding Performer
    in an Animated Program for “The Mighty B!” in 2009 and 2010.
    – Her Primetime Emmy record stands at 0/13. Counting her two Daytime Emmy
    losses, her entire Emmy record stands at 0/15.

    – Factoid: Poehler stands at zero wins out of five nominations (for the same
    role in this category), tying her with Elizabeth Montgomery for “Bewitched” (five
    consecutive losses from 1966-1980) and Blair Brown for “The Days and Nights of
    Molly Dodd” (five consecutive losses from 1987-1991). Should she garner a sixth
    nomination and still not win, she will surpass both Montgomery and Brown;
    however, she will still only come in second as the category’s biggest loser.
    Jane Kaczmarek has that title, as she stands 0/7 for “Malcolm in the Middle.”
    Kaczmarek was nominated every year the series was eligible (8 seasons in 7
    years). Poehler was not nominated for the six-episode first season.

    Jesse Tyler Fergusn, “Modern Family”
    – He has been nominated the last five years.
    – Four of his five losses have been to two costars, Eric Stonestreet in 2010
    and 2012, and Ty Burrell in 2011 and 2014. He lost to Tony Hale in 2013.

    – His Emmy record stands at 0/5.

    – Factoid: If Ferguson gets a sixth nomination and still loses, he will be tied
    with George Wendt, who went 0/6 for “Cheers” from 1984-1989. Jeffrey Tambor
    also has six losses in this category, but his first four were for “The Larry
    Sanders Show” and his latter two were for “Arrested Development.” The
    category’s biggest losers remain Jason Alexander, who lost seven consecutive
    years for “Seinfeld” from 1992-1998, and Peter Boyle, who lost seven
    consecutive years for “Everybody Loves Raymond” from 1999-2005. However, Boyle
    has a Guest Actor Drama win from 1996 for “The X-Files.” Alexander has an
    additional nom, Guest Actor Comedy from 1994 for “Dream On,” but did not win it
    either. For Ferguson to tie Alexander and Boyle, he’ll need two more
    nominations and losses; to make history as the category’s biggest loser, he’ll
    need three more nominations and losses.

    Mayim Bialik, “The Big Bang Theory”
    – She has been nominated the last three years.
    – She lost in 2012 to Julie Bowen for “Modern Family,” in 2013 to Merritt Wever
    for “Nurse Jackie,” and last year to Allison Janney for “Mom.”

    – Her Emmy record stands at 0/3.

    – Factoid: She is the only series-regular actress of “The Big Bang Theory” to
    be nominated. The only other actress is Christine Baranski in Guest Actress
    Comedy in 2009 and 2010.

    Nathan Lane, “Modern Family” (Guest Actor)
    – Lane has been nominated for the guest role of Pepper Saltzman in 2011, 2013, and 2014.
    – He lost all three. In 2011, he lost to Justin Timberlake for “SNL,” in 2013,
    he lost to Bob Newhart for “The Big Bang Theory,” and last year he lost to
    Jimmy Fallon for “SNL.”
    – Two additional Guest Actor Comedy noms in 1995 for “Frasier” (lost to Carl
    Reiner for “Mad About You”) and 1998 for “Mad About You” (lost to Mel Brooks,
    also for “Mad About You”).
    – Additional nom in Guest Actor Drama in 2013 for “The Good Wife” (lost to Dan
    Bucatinsky for “Scandal”).
    – His Primetime Emmy record stands at 0/6.
    – Lane does have 2 Daytime Emmy wins out of 3 nominations. All three
    nominations are in Outstanding Performer in an Animated Program and for a
    different role. He won in 1996 for “Timon and Pumbaa,” and won in 2001 for
    “Teacher’s Pet.” He was nominated in 2000 for “George and Martha.”

    – Factoid: With three nominations, Lane is the most nominated
    non-series-regular cast-member of “Modern Family.” Fred Willard was nominated
    for season 1 in Guest Actor Comedy while Greg Kinnear was nominated for season
    3 in Guest Actor Comedy. Lane is in contention for a fourth nom for season six
    of “Modern Family” with one episode thus far (episode 15, “Fight or Flight,”
    from Feb. 18).

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    AviChristiaans
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    #344432

    This one is hard….very hard.

    I would like to say Mayim Bialik, but then again The Big Bang Theory is the most popular comedy on television. She is popular, she is great on the show, and she did get a Screen Actors Guild Award nomination for Outstanding Comedy Actress, and a Critics Choice TV Award nomination in supporting.

    I’ll go with Melissa McCarthy. Last year, Laura Dern and Tina Fey’s series ending made way for McCarthy to return, and Schilling to enter. The category is stacked this year with new actresses vying to get in.

    I am not sure though.

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    Gone_Guy
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    #344433

    This one is hard….very hard.

    I would like to say Mayim Bialik, but then again The Big Bang Theory is the most popular comedy on television. She is popular, she is great on the show, and she did get a Screen Actors Guild Award nomination for Outstanding Comedy Actress, and a Critics Choice TV Award nomination in supporting.

    Before “Orange is the New Black” went Drama, I had Bialik easily missing out. But now that three slots (Aduba, Touissaint, Mulgrew) have opened the category up, I’m struggling to come up with six nominees, which means perennial nominees may be safer to get back in, plus actresses who have been dropped (Vergara, Wever, White). The only major contenders that no one has seen yet are Ellen Barkin and Carrie Preston for “Happyish.” For right now, I have the same exact six as last year, but with Janney and Bowen being the only two locks. 

    Last year’s nominees:
    – Allison Janney, Mom
    – Julia Bowen, Modern Family

    – Mayim Bialik, The Big Bang Theory
    – Anna Chlumsky, Veep
    – Jane Lynch, Glee
    – Kate McKinnon, SNL

    Dropped but could make a comeback:
    – Sofia Vergara, Modern Family
    – Merritt Wever, Nurse Jackie
    – Betty White, Hot in Cleveland

    Newbies for new series:
    – Ellen Barkin, Happyish
    – Carrie Preston, Happyish
    – Carol Kane, Unbreakable Kimmie Schmidt
    – Jane Krakowski, Unbreakable Kimmie Schmidt
    – Gaby Hoffman, Transparent
    – Amy Landecker, Transparent
    – Judith Light, Transparent
    – Andrea Navedo, Jane the Virgin

    Yet to be nominated but still eligible:
    – Jemima Kirke, Girls
    – Zosia Mamet, Girls
    – Allison Williams, Girls
    – Kaley Cuoco, The Big Bang Theory
    – Melissa Rauch, The Big Bang Theory 
    – Melissa Fumero, Brooklyn Nine-Nine
    – Stephanie Beatriz, Brooklyn Nine-Nine
    – Kristen Bell, House of Lies
    – Sufe Bradshaw, Veep 
    – Aubrey Plaza, Parks and Recreation
    – Eden Sher, The Middle
    – Lauren Weedman, Looking 

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    ETPhoneHome
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    #344434

    I think that the Comedy lead actor will be just about the same. Parsons, Cheadle, C.K, LeBlanc, Macy and with Tambor replacing Gervais. I think that Comedy Actress is the most open to change, with tons of contenders for Schilling’s and McCarthy’s spots.

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    KyleBailey
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    #344435

    I think McCarthy, Dunham, Cheadle, and LeBlanc are all out. Fonda and Tomlin will take the girls’ slots and Crystal and possibly Coogan will take the boys’ slots 

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    Gone_Guy
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    #344436

    I think that the Comedy lead actor will be just about the same. Parsons, Cheadle, C.K, LeBlanc, Macy and with Tambor replacing Gervais.

    That’s really too bad, unless they have an episode and/or season that makes them truly deserving. This is the year this category could finally be given some juice by being filled with newcomers.

    The Unstoppable Force (1):
    – Jim Parsons, The Big Bang Theory

    The Usual Suspects (3):
    – Don Cheadle, House of Lies
    – Matt LeBlanc, Episodes
    – William H. Macy, Shameless

    Newcomers (12):
    – Anthony Anderson, Blackish
    – Jay Baruchel, Man Seeking Woman
    – Adam Brody, Billy and Billie
    – Gael Garcia Bernal, Mozart in the Jungle
    – Steve Coogan, Happyish
    – Billy Crystal, The Comedians
    – Mark Duplass, Togetherness
    – Will Forte, The Last Man on Earth
    – Thomas Lennon, The Odd Couple
    – Randall Park, Fresh Off the Boat
    – Matthew Perry, The Odd Couple
    – Jeffrey Tambor, Transparent

    Sophomores w/ No Season 1 Nom (5):
    – Jeff Garlin, The Goldbergs
    – John Goodman, Alpha House 
    – Jonathan Groff, Looking
    – Thomas Middleditch, Silicon Valley
    – Andy Samberg, Brooklyn Nine-Nine

    Dropped, but Still Eligible (3):
    – Jon Cryer, Two and a Half Men
    – Johnny Galecki, The Big Bang Theory
    – Matthew Morrison, Glee

    The Guys Who Just Can’t Garner the Nom (4):
    – Billy Gardell, Mike and Molly
    – Jake Johnson, New Girl
    – Ashton Kutcher, Two and a Half Men
    – Adam Scott, Parks and Recreation

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    #344437

    Definitely Dunham followed by Bialik. 

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