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  • montana82
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    To me, one of the big things I am watching for this weekend will be the first 4 acting categories handed out at the Creative Arts.  We will see our first results to see if this new voting system is something we should fear or embrace.

    Big things to watch:

    1. Cicely Tyson.  Under the old system who in that category beats her on episodes?  No one.  She’d be a lock.    Under this new system with a popular vote, Diana Rigg could win due to the support GOT has in the Academy, Allison Janney of course could win with her TV Academy fan club, and yes…even Margo Martindale’s 2 minutes are a threat because she’s so popular and well liked.  If she loses, especially to Rigg, throw episodes out the window and vote for the contender whose show has the most Academy cred/respect.

    2. Jon Hamm.  Most agree he sorta screwed up and sent the wrong tape.  He was much better in Fey’s.  She was better in his.  Was there a mix up?  If he wins it might just be on sentiment on his side.  It is a weak category tape wise so we may not assume too much.

    3. Tina Fey and Elizabeth Banks.  If either ride their popularity/name recognition to a win next weekend, we can officially conclude, the new system is a disaster.

    I didn’t watch Guest Actor Drama.  What is the consensus there on who has the best episodes?

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    CanadianFan
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    The general consensus is that Bridges has the best tape, and he has a lot of fans in the academy as well, so that really helps.

    I never considered Hamm’s presence in Fey’s tape. Hmm… 

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    That Don Guy
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    Are the guest categories ones where they concentrate on the tapes?  I always thought they were “name recognition” categories.

    Question: even if the voters have to sign something saying that they watched the submitted episodes, do they have to sign anything saying that their votes are based solely on the performances in those episodes?

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    Atypical
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    Hamm winning for what he submitted would be fine. I hadn’t considered voters including Fey’s tape along with his, but that’s something in the mix now too with the rules change. There’s no smoking gun who would be robbed if Hamm wins there, though I think I’d be okay with Whitford or Giamatti taking it. Bridges has the best tape in his category.

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    Rooney Moore
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    Are the guest categories ones where they concentrate on the tapes?  I always thought they were “name recognition” categories.

    Question: even if the voters have to sign something saying that they watched the submitted episodes, do they have to sign anything saying that their votes are based solely on the performances in those episodes?

    Ow. Good point. Never thought about that. Any ideas?

    And Rigg is already a big enough name to pull off an upset, even if she weren’t part of a popular show.
    And it doesn’t hurt that her character is one of only few characters on Game of Thrones that is not as polarizing as others and doubtlessly every fan loves, thanks to her quick-witted personality and her participation to Joffrey’s death.
    GoldDerby is crazy not to predicting her, she is currently at 4th place and is about to drop down in 5th. But, whatever. That means I’ll make more point when the Emmy night comes 😉

    AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, does anyone know will we be allowed to watch the live Creative ceremony on Saturday? Emmy.com says it will take place on that date but they will air the show on FXX one week later. WHY? Why would I watch the entire show if I already know who the winners are? And Creative ceremonies are lame as hell sadly, so I doubt anyone on earth really cares who will win ”Outstanding Non- Prosthetic Makeup in a Single Camera Series” other than us Emmy freaks. Did same thing happen last year as well? Did they air the ceremony after one week?

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    That Don Guy
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    AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, does anyone know will we be allowed to watch the live Creative ceremony on Saturday? Emmy.com says it will take place on that date but they will air the show on FXX one week later. WHY? Why would I watch the entire show if I already know who the winners are? And Creative ceremonies are lame as hell sadly, so I doubt anyone on earth really cares who will win ”Outstanding Non- Prosthetic Makeup in a Single Camera Series” other than us Emmy freaks. Did same thing happen last year as well? Did they air the ceremony after one week?

    If I read correctly, the full CA ceremony airs in its entirely online on the day of the main Emmy ceremony, starting at 3 PM Eastern on the Emmys.com / Yahoo.com / Fox.com “Backstage Live” webcast.  Other than this, and the edited FXX version, I don’t think it’s going to be broadcast, unless you count what Gold Derby does every year (there’s a chat that includes somebody at the ceremony listing the winners as they happen).

    Somebody tried a streaming live broadcast once – about 10 years ago, I think – but (a) they kept cutting back and forth between the ceremony and interviewing winners backstage (and not just during the breaks in the ceremony – they missed quite a few awards because of this), and (b) the backstage interviewers came across as totally clueless (example: they interviewed one of the writers of The Simpsons, which had won an Emmy earlier that night, and the first question was, “So…how many points in Lisa’s hair?”).

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    Rooney Moore
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    Ahahaha. So many thanks for the information 🙂

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    That Don Guy
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    Here’s a thought: it’s possible that the new voting system could result in a category not having any winner.

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    are three categories – well, “areas” – that still have the old “if
    every nominee gets more ‘no’ votes than ‘yes’ votes, then no Emmy is
    awarded this year”:
    Picture Editing for variety programming
    Sound Mixing for half-hour comedy/drama series and animation
    Sound Mixing for variety programming

    If
    too many voters get confused and vote for only one entry in a category,
    rather than giving each nominee a separate “yes or no” vote (or if they
    choose not to vote for more than one nominee as they don’t want a
    different show to win), it’s possible that the votes would be spread out
    to the point where none of them got yes votes from at least half of the
    voters in that category.

    IIRC, the last time there was a “no
    winner” category (Short Format Animation, I think, and I want to say
    2009), they simply skipped it, and people who were waiting to hear who
    won were confused when not only did the ceremony end without the
    category being mentioned, but there was no mention of it in the press
    release listing the Creative Arts winners.

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