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Critics' Choice vs. Satellite Awards
The 2016 Satellite Award television nominations are better.
The 2016 Critics' Choice television nominations are better.
  • Riley
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    Ah, the International Press Academy and the Broadcast Television Journalists Association—two illegitimate organizations. Who did a better job with their nominations this year?

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    Riley
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    HAVING A REASONABLE TIMELINE
    Advantage: Draw
    Critics’ Choice was obviously worse, but no best-of-the-calendar-year nominations should be coming out in November. Period.

    HAVING INTEGRITY
    Advantage: Draw
    Both stupidly nominated non-existent content, exposing themselves.

    HAVING AN EXCUSE FOR NOT HAVING INTEGRITY
    Advantage: Satellites
    Master of None and Getting On are things that gained heat recently, so Satellite voters might have only watched them recently and got confused about air dates, especially with them being an international voting body. And those are two worthy shows and it is a shame that voters might not have seen them in time for voting last year. But who is crying over Mandy Patinkin getting snubbed? Homeland has clearly been on the air for years and the last season was not even one of his better ones. I do not know how the Satellites vote, but I assume that it is just a simple vote, whereas the Critics’ Choice nominations are determined by an eleven-day deliberation. Who exactly suggested Patinkin and how did he gain support and then how did nobody catch it at any point or suggest that they nominate Claire Danes too?

    BEING CONSISTENT
    Advantage: Draw
    Categories vary in competitiveness and just because a performance is good, it does not mean that the show is too. But I am already distrustful of these groups, so inconsistent nominations here indicate randomness. The Satellites gave The Night Manager three acting nominations, but it was not one of their nine movie/miniseries nominees. Critics’ Choice gave The Dresser two nominations—in supporting actress. Where to begin with that?

    NOMINATING BAD PERFORMANCES
    Advantage: Draw
    Both nominated Tom Hiddleston and Cuba Gooding Jr.

    NOMINATING GHOSTS WHO ARE NOT ANN DOWD
    Advantage: Draw
    Critics’ Choice nominated Christian Slater and the Satellites nominated Ben Mendelsohn. Mendelsohn won the Emmy, so that is just the Satellites being sheep. What Critics’ Choice did was worse in that they sought out a ghost on their own, as the Emmys snubbed Slater. But Critics’ Choice has three supporting actor categories, whereas Mendelsohn made it into the Satellites’ single catch-all category, so this is a draw.

    NOMINATING THINGS OUT OF NOWHERE
    Advantage: Satellites
    Cuba Gooding Jr. and Tom Hiddleston did both get Emmy nominations, so you can see where those nominations are coming from, even if they are horrid. The Satellite nominations were all nominated elsewhere or maybe they should have been. Critics’ Choice nominated Lane Garrison for Roots.

    NOMINATING CAMEOS
    Advantage: Satellites
    This should be an easy one, but Critics’ Choice nominated Liam Neeson for Inside Amy Schumer. The worst part is that the Emmys were smart enough to snub him. The Satellites were smart enough not to fall into this trap by not having guest categories at all.

    HAVING A SET NUMBER OF NOMINEES
    Advantage: Draw
    Comedy guest is the only Critics’ Choice race with only five nominees. Movie/miniseries is the only Satellite race with nine.

    PROVING THAT THEY WATCHED THE SHOWS
    Advantage: Satellites
    Critics’ Choice nominated Silicon Valley in series and supporting actor, but forgot Thomas Middleditch. They nominated Better Call Saul in series and lead actor, but forgot Rhea Seehorn (and Michael McKean initially). They nominated American Crime in both actress categories, but forgot Connor Jessup. They nominated Mr. Robot in series, lead actor and supporting actor, but forgot Carly Chaikin. Did they watch the eligible seasons of these shows?

    IMPROVING ON THE EMMYS
    Advantage: Satellites
    One group nominated Modern Family in several categories and the other shut it out.

    RECATEGORIZING PERFORMANCES
    Advantage: Draw
    You would think that the Satellites might have done it more, with how few supporting slots they have. They moved Wendell Pierce up, which is justified because he could have submitted in either category. But they also moved up Emily Watson, who is supporting. Critics’ Choice moved up both Olivia Colman and Kate McKinnon, who are also supporting. This was probably a product of deliberating instead of voting.

    PROGRAM NOMINEES
    Advantage: Critics’ Choice
    Critics’ Choice has twenty movie/mini/drama/comedy nominees; the Satellites have thirty-two, which is ridiculous. Then again, with fewer nominees, Critics’ Choice made some pretty bad snubs in light of who they nominated. The Satellites nominated The Night Of and American Crime; Critics’ Choice went with Killing Reagan and The Night Manager instead. Having more slots is ultimately cheating though.

    DRAMA LEAD ACTING NOMINEES
    Advantage: Satellites
    Dominic West, Winona Ryder and Sarah Lancashire are more inspired choices than Kevin Spacey, Sam Heughen and Viola Davis.

    COMEDY LEAD ACTING NOMINEES
    Advantage: Critics’ Choice
    The Satellites have Sharon Horgan, Pamela Adlon, Rob Delaney and Thomas Middleditch, but they missed Julia Louis-Dreyfus and have William H. Macy.

    MOVIE/MINI LEAD ACTING NOMINEES
    Advantage: Draw
    The nominees either line up or were categorized differently.

    SUPPORTING NOMINEES
    Advantage: Satellites
    Even though they only have a third of the nominees, they brought in some deserving people that missed at Critics’ Choice, like Alison Wright. By only having two categories, the Satellites have two very strong categories, whereas Critics’ Choice clearly had more spots than they could handle and filled them with people from Game of Thrones.

    8 draws
    7 IPA
    2 BTJA

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    Alex Meyer
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    I liked Tom Hiddleston and Cuba Gooding, Jr.’s performances.

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    mafro987
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    “Nominating ghosts who are not Ann Dowd” hahaha so true

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    Teridax
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    HAVING A REASONABLE TIMELINE
    Advantage: Draw
    Critics’ Choice was obviously worse, but no best-of-the-calendar-year nominations should be coming out in November. Period.

    HAVING INTEGRITY
    Advantage: Draw
    Both stupidly nominated non-existent content, exposing themselves.

    HAVING AN EXCUSE FOR NOT HAVING INTEGRITY
    Advantage: Satellites
    Master of None and Getting On are things that gained heat recently, so Satellite voters might have only watched them recently and got confused about air dates, especially with them being an international voting body. And those are two worthy shows and it is a shame that voters might not have seen them in time for voting last year. But who is crying over Mandy Patinkin getting snubbed? Homeland has clearly been on the air for years and the last season was not even one of his better ones. I do not know how the Satellites vote, but I assume that it is just a simple vote, whereas the Critics’ Choice nominations are determined by an eleven-day deliberation. Who exactly suggested Patinkin and how did he gain support and then how did nobody catch it at any point or suggest that they nominate Claire Danes too?

    BEING CONSISTENT
    Advantage: Draw
    Categories vary in competitiveness and just because a performance is good, it does not mean that the show is too. But I am already distrustful of these groups, so inconsistent nominations here indicate randomness. The Satellites gave The Night Manager three acting nominations, but it was not one of their nine movie/miniseries nominees. Critics’ Choice gave The Dresser two nominations—in supporting actress. Where to begin with that?

    NOMINATING BAD PERFORMANCES
    Advantage: Draw
    Both nominated Tom Hiddleston and Cuba Gooding Jr.

    NOMINATING GHOSTS WHO ARE NOT ANN DOWD
    Advantage: Draw
    Critics’ Choice nominated Christian Slater and the Satellites nominated Ben Mendelsohn. Mendelsohn won the Emmy, so that is just the Satellites being sheep. What Critics’ Choice did was worse in that they sought out a ghost on their own, as the Emmys snubbed Slater. But Critics’ Choice has three supporting actor categories, whereas Mendelsohn made it into the Satellites’ single catch-all category, so this is a draw.

    NOMINATING THINGS OUT OF NOWHERE
    Advantage: Satellites
    Cuba Gooding Jr. and Tom Hiddleston did both get Emmy nominations, so you can see where those nominations are coming from, even if they are horrid. The Satellite nominations were all nominated elsewhere or maybe they should have been. Critics’ Choice nominated Lane Garrison for Roots.

    NOMINATING CAMEOS
    Advantage: Satellites
    This should be an easy one, but Critics’ Choice nominated Liam Neeson for Inside Amy Schumer. The worst part is that the Emmys were smart enough to snub him. The Satellites were smart enough not to fall into this trap by not having guest categories at all.

    HAVING A SET NUMBER OF NOMINEES
    Advantage: Draw
    Comedy guest is the only Critics’ Choice race with only five nominees. Movie/miniseries is the only Satellite race with nine.

    PROVING THAT THEY WATCHED THE SHOWS
    Advantage: Satellites
    Critics’ Choice nominated Silicon Valley in series and supporting actor, but forgot Thomas Middleditch. They nominated Better Call Saul in series and lead actor, but forgot Rhea Seehorn (and Michael McKean initially). They nominated American Crime in both actress categories, but forgot Connor Jessup. They nominated Mr. Robot in series, lead actor and supporting actor, but forgot Carly Chaikin. Did they watch the eligible seasons of these shows?

    IMPROVING ON THE EMMYS
    Advantage: Satellites
    One group nominated Modern Family in several categories and the other shut it out.

    RECATEGORIZING PERFORMANCES
    Advantage: Draw
    You would think that the Satellites might have done it more, with how few supporting slots they have. They moved Wendell Pierce up, which is justified because he could have submitted in either category. But they also moved up Emily Watson, who is supporting. Critics’ Choice moved up both Olivia Colman and Kate McKinnon, who are also supporting. This was probably a product of deliberating instead of voting.

    PROGRAM NOMINEES
    Advantage: Critics’ Choice
    Critics’ Choice has twenty movie/mini/drama/comedy nominees; the Satellites have thirty-two, which is ridiculous. Then again, with fewer nominees, Critics’ Choice made some pretty bad snubs in light of who they nominated. The Satellites nominated The Night Of and American Crime; Critics’ Choice went with Killing Reagan and The Night Manager instead. Having more slots is ultimately cheating though.

    DRAMA LEAD ACTING NOMINEES
    Advantage: Satellites
    Dominic West, Winona Ryder and Sarah Lancashire are more inspired choices than Kevin Spacey, Sam Heughen and Viola Davis.

    COMEDY LEAD ACTING NOMINEES
    Advantage: Critics’ Choice
    The Satellites have Sharon Horgan, Pamela Adlon, Rob Delaney and Thomas Middleditch, but they missed Julia Louis-Dreyfus and have William H. Macy.

    MOVIE/MINI LEAD ACTING NOMINEES
    Advantage: Draw
    The nominees either line up or were categorized differently.

    SUPPORTING NOMINEES
    Advantage: Satellites
    Even though they only have a third of the nominees, they brought in some deserving people that missed at Critics’ Choice, like Alison Wright. By only having two categories, the Satellites have two very strong categories, whereas Critics’ Choice clearly had more spots than they could handle and filled them with people from Game of Thrones.

    8 draws
    7 IPA
    2 BTJA

    HOLY SH*T, THIS IS GREAT! 😀 I honestly think it should have been a legit article on Goldderby. But on the other hand, having it as a forum topic makes for more in-depth discussion, I guess? :\

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    I liked Tom Hiddleston and Cuba Gooding, Jr.’s performances.

    SAME. I honestly think Cuba should have won the Emmy over Courtney, in my honest opinion. CGJ was phenomenal consistently throughtout The People v. O.J., his nomination proves they watched the show! I also thought Tom Hiddleston had an excellent James Bond audition reel in The Night Manager. 🙂

    Actual BAD performances that were rightfully snubbed include Connor Jessup from American Crime and… honestly I’m just happy his hammy shit didn’t get validated by the Emmys, or by either of these groups. 😀

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    Teridax
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    I say the Satellite Awards are the lesser of 2 evils here, if not only because they feel less copy-and-paste of the Emmys.

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    I liked Tom Hiddleston and Cuba Gooding, Jr.’s performances.

    SAME. I honestly think Cuba should have won the Emmy over Courtney, in my honest opinion. CGJ was phenomenal consistently throughtout The People v. O.J., his nomination proves they watched the show! I also thought Tom Hiddleston had an excellent James Bond audition reel in The Night Manager. ????

    Actual BAD performances that were rightfully snubbed include Connor Jessup from American Crime and… honestly I’m just happy his hammy shit didn’t get validated by the Emmys, or by either of these groups. ????

    Please tell me you’re just trolling on purpose and that this is not your authentic opinion about those performances?

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    Adam Rock
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    I wasn’t surprised that Cuba got in at the Emmys because OJ was just this unstoppable force that could not be contained but I feel like we should hold the critics to somewhat of a high standard. I guess on the television side at least, we cannot do that.

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    Alex Meyer
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    I liked Tom Hiddleston and Cuba Gooding, Jr.’s performances.

    SAME. I honestly think Cuba should have won the Emmy over Courtney, in my honest opinion. CGJ was phenomenal consistently throughtout The People v. O.J., his nomination proves they watched the show! I also thought Tom Hiddleston had an excellent James Bond audition reel in The Night Manager. ????

    Actual BAD performances that were rightfully snubbed include Connor Jessup from American Crime and… honestly I’m just happy his hammy shit didn’t get validated by the Emmys, or by either of these groups. ????

    Even though I liked Cuba Gooding, Jr.’s performance, I still think Courtney B. Vance rightfully won the Emmy and should win the Golden Globe, SAG, Critics Choice and Satellite Awards as well.

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    @alexmeyer Even though I liked Cuba Gooding, Jr.’s performance, I still think Courtney B. Vance rightfully won the Emmy and should win the Golden Globe, SAG, Critics Choice and Satellite Awards as well.

    [/quote]I’d be totally fine with that! Courtney was my 2nd choice, a CLOSE 2nd, I would add.

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    Teridax
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    I liked Tom Hiddleston and Cuba Gooding, Jr.’s performances.

    SAME. I honestly think Cuba should have won the Emmy over Courtney, in my honest opinion. CGJ was phenomenal consistently throughtout The People v. O.J., his nomination proves they watched the show! I also thought Tom Hiddleston had an excellent James Bond audition reel in The Night Manager. ????

    Actual BAD performances that were rightfully snubbed include Connor Jessup from American Crime and… honestly I’m just happy his hammy shit didn’t get validated by the Emmys, or by either of these groups. ????

    Please tell me you’re just trolling on purpose and that this is not your authentic opinion about those performances?

    [/quote]@aaayanupadhyaya NO! CGJ was among the best performances of the frikkin year! And Hiddleston gave, as I already stated, a perfectly solid Bond audition reel! Connor Jessup was Razzie-worthy, how do you honestly not see that?!Are YOU trolling for suggesting they weren’t that great? 1 thing you should know about me- I NEVER TROLL. 😐

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    Teridax
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    I wasn’t surprised that Cuba got in at the Emmys because OJ was just this unstoppable force that could not be contained but I feel like we should hold the critics to somewhat of a high standard. I guess on the television side at least, we cannot do that.

    Also because Cuba deserved to be there, don’t forget that. 🙂

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    Both award shows are shitty and should be cancelled. Along with the Teen Choice Awards.

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    Teridax
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