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  • flv4466
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    #351709

    After beeing named one of AFI’s TOP 10 Programs of the Year, winning awards at the Casting Sociaty of American, Screen Actors Guild Awards in Comedy Ensemble, Comedy Series at the Golden Globes and winning Program at the Year at the TCA’s, Desperate Housewives was shoo-in for reciving Comedy Series at the Emmys. But, in the evening, it ended up losing to the final season of Everybody Loves Raymond. 

    My question is: what the hell happened?  

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    Ken Bendor
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    Emmy voters (for once) didn’t buy the hype (thankfully; Arrested Development should’ve won anyway- so there)…

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    Anonymous
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    Stop the shit. It deserved to win over any comedies that year.

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    Icky
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    Arrested Development’s second season is one of the best seasons of any show ever. Should’ve won series again that year. 

    DH was hurt by some of its hype dissipating in the second half of its season. And it just wasn’t overtly comic enough to compete in series under the tape system.  

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    Patrick
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    I think it’s because it’s in the same situation Orange is the New Black has been in. It’s a dramedy. For the comedy series category, the Emmys like a traditional comedy with lots of laughs, funny moments and material, rather than a largely dramatic series peppered with comedic moments. Desperate Housewives’ Season 1 had more comedy aspects to it than Orange is the New Black has, but it’s still in a similar situation.

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    RobertPius
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    Emmy likes their comedy winners to be laugh out loud funny. DH wasn’t that. 

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    BenitoDelicias
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    Again with this question…and as usual it’s filled with answers from people who clearly weren’t around (not a problem, probably not your fault), but I always ask: do you know what was submitted from each show? Have you watched those submissions? Do you know that DH didn’t have the best tapes it could’ve had? Have you seen Raymond’s submissions that make it a very deserving winner? Have you seen Arrested Development’s second season and the tapes they submitted to understand that it was the one that really deserved to win, not Raymond, not DH?

    Raymond was a worthy winner. Arrested Development should’ve won instead. DH was a third place finisher at best. 

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    Icky
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    Yes, based just on tapes AD and ‘Raymond’ were far more worthy. 

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    Housewives was a nighttime soap marketed as a comedy.

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    Icky
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    That’s what the show quickly became, but in the first half of season one it was a genuine comedy/satire, albiet a very hit and miss one. 

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    Ally McBeal, Sex and the City and even The Wonder Years are examples of series that have won that weren’t uproariously funny. Maybe DH was such a frontrunner that people threw their votes to other series thinking it wouldn’t matter in the end.

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    Icky
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    ^That theory makes more sense if you’re voting for nominations not for wins. Voting for something to win that you know won’t is a waste of a vote. Ally McBeal and SatC are still more traditional comedies than DH. They also won for later seasons with their hype and acclaim going up a notch rather than peaking in their debut seasons. The Wonder Years was a lite and nostalgic show. As proven with Ugly Betty and Glee voters just don’t go for unabashed soap operas in comedy (not that they fair much better in drama), and DH’s tapes weren’t impressive enough to sway them. 

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    Ken Bendor
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    Stop the shit. It deserved to win over any comedies that year.

    Don’t you mean “It deserved to win over EVERY OTHER COMEDY that year”? (BTW, no matter how you say it, DH did not)

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    Carlo
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    Arrested Development, Despserate Housewives and Everybody Loves Raymond all had great seasons in 2004-2005.
    Anyone of them winning would have been deserving.  

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    Riley
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    I am not convinced that Desperate Housewives would have won even in a straight popular vote without tapes and it is pretty easy to discount all of the points made in the opening post.

    After beeing named one of AFI’s TOP 10 Programs of the Year

    Why would being in a top ten list mean that it should be named the single best in another?

    winning awards at the Casting Sociaty of America

    Best comedy series and best comedy casting are different categories at the Emmys and there is little correlation between them.  Since Desperate Housewives, there has only been one year where their winners matched up.  Desperate Housewives did win the casting Emmy.

    Screen Actors Guild Awards in Comedy Ensemble

    Again, best comedy ensemble and best comedy series are different things.  Now, the actors’ branch is the largest in the academy and SAG is one of the major guilds, so looking at in conjunction with successes at the other guilds would be meaningful.  It was not nominated for WGA, it did not win DGA and it would never be nominated again for PGA.

    Comedy Series at the Golden Globes

    Brooklyn Nine-NineThe Affair.  Katey Sagal.  Extras.  Andy Samberg.  Chloe Sevigny.  Nip/Tuck.  Anna Paquin.  Jacqueline Bisset.  The Shield.  Kelsey Grammer.  David Duchovny.

    and winning Program at the Year at the TCA’s

    Program of the Year goes to the show with the greatest cultural impact.  Arrested Development won their award for best comedy.

    But, in the evening, it ended up losing to the final season of Everybody Loves Raymond.

    Dramatic tapes also generally do not play well in the comedy categories.

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