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  • leothescorpio
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    *Empire got 3 nominations last year.
    *There’s no way its getting 0 nominations this year.
    *Taraji is coming off a Golden Globe win & a Lucy Award for Excellence in Television recently
    *Marisa Tomei is coming off a Critics Choice nomination for her role as Mimi Whiteman
    *The show tripled it’s Original Songs in its second season
    *The Guild Awards are usually very telling of a show’s support. Wasn’t Empire the third most nominated/awarded Show among Dramas this year? It got nominated at the Casting, Production Design, Hair & Makeup, Costumes & Sound Editing Guilds.

    There certainly is more support for the show now. Whether or not that will translate into Emmy nominations is yet to be seen. But saying Empire has no shot at the Emmys is bizarre. Just because you hate something doesn’t mean it’s less deserving of recognition. And besides the second half of Season 2 was actually good.

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    Riley
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    Was looking at who got DGA, but surprisingly missed the Emmys in the last five years.

    The Mad Men finale should have been an easy nomination, but Matt Weiner has never been nominated by the Emmys for directing.

    “The Suitcase” was a landmark episode for Mad Men, but Jennifer Getzinger has never been nominated by the Emmys for directing.

    The Friday Night Lights finale won writing, but Michael Waxman has never been nominated by the Emmys for directing.

    HBO used to get pilots in pretty regularly, but The Newsroom‘s Greg Mottola has never been nominated by the Emmys for directing.

    Rian Johnson won DGA for Breaking Bad‘s “Fifty-One”, but has never been nominated by the Emmys for directing.

    It seems almost like the DGA is voting for shows, but the Emmys are voting for names. This is not to say that the Emmys have not given directors their first nominations in that time, but in the last five years, one group nominated Tim Van Patten and Jeremy Podeswa repeatedly and the other did not. In the last ten years, the DGA has had eight in which they double-nominated a drama. That has only happened twice in the last ten years at the Emmys. At DGA, they see a show that they like and tick it off a few times. At the Emmys, they are looking for the names and could not tick those off a few times because for years, directors could only submit themselves for a single show.

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    Bradley Weir
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    I really don’t see where Empire fits in. Game of Thrones is getting 2 in here, Homeland will definitely take a slot. Soderbergh will probably return for The Knick. Then there’s Scorsese for Vinyl. Plus Downton Abbey’s final season, and perhaps Better Call Saul or House of Cards. These are the heavyweights this year and I don’t see any room for a show that Emmy voters don’t give a damn about. Last year it was the most buzzed show heading into voting and it got 2 nominations. I’m not falling in the trap of believing that this show is going to be an Emmy hit, because it won’t and never will be.

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    leothescorpio
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    Would Empire getting into Directing be considered an “Emmy hit” though? Lol. It’s not getting into Series… And it definitely won’t get more than 10 nominations. Relax yourself. We’re just saying Paris Barclay has a shot – and even if he does get nominated, Empire won’t win.

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    Riley
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    I’m not falling in the trap of believing that this show is going to be an Emmy hit, because it won’t and never will be.

    Not saying that Empire is going to get anything else. A nomination for Paris Barclay is a nomination for him first and whatever show he is on second, like William H. Macy for Shameless. He did only go three for six with Glee though and comedy is an easier category. But two of those nominations came out of nowhere when the show was vaguely on the Emmy radar. Given the guild nominations and the few Emmy nominations, Empire is also vaguely on the Emmy radar and there are six slots now, so we just want to acknowledge that Paris Barclay is a possibility.

    Regardless of Barclay, I question how safe Homeland is. It would seem to be safe because of all of the guild nominations that it got, including DGA, but it gets that haul every year, even for its panned third season; it is probably helped by airing right before or during guild voting. Homeland is also at the point in its run when it should probably fall out of categories just by virtue of being old.

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    Lord Freddy Blackfyre
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    I think the most likely nominees are:

    Martin Scorsesse…Vinyl (Pilot)
    Steven Soderberg..The Knick (This is All We Are, season finale)
    Jack Bender…Game of Thrones (The Door)
    Miguel Sipochnik…Game of Thrones (Battle of the Bastards)
    Sam Esmail…Mr. Robot (Zero Day, Pilot)
    Michael Engler…Downton Abbey (Episode 9, series finale)

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    Riley
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    Wrote this article for Gold Derby about why The Big Bang Theory is a big threat here:

    The Emmys seem to be moving on from The Big Bang Theory, but do not be surprised if it picks up its first Outstanding Directing for a Comedy Series nomination this year for its ninth season. Not only is a series-best episode in contention, but the show is statistically overdue for a nomination.

    The Big Bang Theory is one of only five comedies ever that has not been nominated by the Emmys for directing, despite having been nominated at the Directors Guild Awards, which shares voters with the Emmys. The Odd Couple (1971), Rhoda (1974), Just Shoot Me! (1998) and 8 Simple Rules (2003) received single DGA nominations, but The Big Bang Theory has received three (2013, two for 2014).

    If it has been barely missing nominations at the Emmys, this would be the year to break through, as the best comedy directing category is expanding from five to six slots and several of the comedies that have been nominated over The Big Bang Theory since it broke through at DGA—Episodes, Glee, Louie, Orange is the New Black—are ineligible.

    The Big Bang Theory would be a contender even without its DGA history, as best comedy directing at the Emmys has a history of granting seemingly random nominations to shows relatively late in their runs. Despite never being nominated for Outstanding Comedy Series, Episodes and Monk received their only directing nominations for their third seasons. Monk even received just one other nomination that year: Outstanding Lead Actor for Tony Shalhoub.

    The best template for The Big Bang Theory is How I Met Your Mother, which received its only directing nomination for its sixth season, two years after the show received its only Outstanding Comedy Series nomination and the year after supporting actor Neil Patrick Harris received his fourth and final nomination. The Big Bang Theory was dropped from the Outstanding Comedy Series race last year after four nominations and Jim Parsons was dropped from the lead actor race after his fourth win. (Despite this decline, The Big Bang Theory remained formidable with six Emmy nominations—equal to Outstanding Comedy Series nominees Modern Family and Louie—for its eighth season, including a repeat win for best multi-camera editing.)

    The Big Bang Theory has submitted two episodes for consideration: “The Fermentation Bifurcation” by normal assistant director Nikki Lorre—daughter of co-creator Chuck Lorre—and “The Opening Night Excitation” by main director and two-time DGA nominee Mark Cendrowski. The latter episode is the show’s highest-rated on IMDb and the only one from the past two seasons in the top thirty. It is notable as the episode in which the characters Sheldon Cooper (Parsons) and Amy Farrah Fowler (Mayim Bialik) finally have sex after dating for six seasons. In a five-star review for Vulture, Kimberly Potts hailed it “the most perfect TBBT episode”. Tom Eames of Digital Spy similarly said that it “was genuinely one of the best Big Bang Theory episodes of all time.” Giving it his highest grade of the season, Kyle Fowle of The A.V. Club said that the payoff worked out “just about perfectly”. He also named Bialik’s performance the “highlight of the episode”. Bialik won a Critics’ Choice Award a month after the episode aired; she was the sole nomination for the former Best Comedy Series winner (2013). Gold Derby’s aggregate predictions peg her for a fifth consecutive nomination for Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series at the Emmys, representing the show in the acting categories with guest Bob Newhart, who won in 2013 and is submitted for his return in “The Opening Night Excitation”.

    Also entered for both writing and editing consideration, it is the one episode of the show that Emmy voters received on DVD this year. This focused campaign ensures that if voters see any episode of The Big Bang Theory, it is one that they can mark off on their ballot. Voters may have already seen the episode on their own though, given that its promotion as the one in which Sheldon and Amy have sex resulted in the show’s largest audience of the season—a massive twenty-four million in the United States including a week’s worth of DVR viewing. Jesse Schedeen admitted in a review for IGN, “that spoiler took some of the wind out of the show’s sails”, but he still awarded the episode his highest score of the season and summed it up as “amazing”.

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    Tom
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    Looking at this again for the 2017-2018 ballots.

    As I was looking through the Directing ballot last night I noticed a few names on the ballot that surprised me. What are the chances that a “big name” noted for TV or film acting/directing gets in based on name recognition. Some of the names are:

    Outstanding Directing for a Comedy Series:
    Better Things – “Sam (Pilot)” by Louis C.K.
    black-ish – “Sprinkles” by Eva Longoria Bastón
    Casual – “Trivial Pursuit” by Jason Reitman
    Crashing – “Artie Lange” by Judd Apatow
    Dear White People – “Chapter V” by Barry Jenkins
    Last Man Standing – “The Friending Library” by Tim Allen
    Life in Pieces – “Window Vanity Dress Grace” by Helen Hunt
    Mozart in the Jungle – “Not Yet Tied” by Roman Coppola
    Shameless – “I Am A Storm” by Emmy Rossum
    Tyler Perry’s Love Thy Neighbour – “Done” by Tyler Perry

    Outstanding Directing for a Drama Series:
    Animal Kingdom – “Child Care” by Regina King
    Bates Motel – “The Body” by Freddie Highmore
    Bones – “The Final Chapter: The End in the End” by David Boreanaz
    Chance – “Summer of Love” by Lenny Abrahamson
    The Crown – “Hyde Park Corner” by Stephen Daldry
    The Get Down – “Where There is Ruin, There is Hope for Treasure” by Baz Luhrmann
    Grey’s Anatomy – “In the Air Tonight” by Chandra Wilson
    Grey’s Anatomy – “Be Still My Soul” by Ellen Pompeo
    House of Cards – “Chapter 65” by Robin Wright
    Madam Secretary – “Sea Change” by Morgan Freeman
    Orange is the New Black – “The Animals” by Matthew Weiner
    Pitch – “Pilot” by Paris Barclay
    Preacher – “Pilot” by Seth Rogan and Evan Goldberg
    Queen Sugar – “First Things First” by Ava DuVernay
    Ray Donovan – “Girl with Guitar” by Liev Schreiber
    Sneaky Pete – “The Roll Over” by Bryan Cranston
    Star – “Pilot” by Lee Daniels
    13 Reasons Why – “Tape 1, Side A” by Tom McCarthy
    This Is Us – “Last Christmas” by Helen Hunt
    Tyler Perry’s The Haves and the Have Nots – “Promises Kept” by Tyler Perry

    In the limited series/movie category we have Angela Bassett, Jean-Marc Vallée, Joe Wright, Ricky Gervais, Helen Hunt, Ron Howard, Katie Holmes, Jonathan Demme, Gus Van Sant, Dee Rees and Paolo Sorrentino. In variety we have Steve Buscemi and in variety special Amy Schumer, Jerry Seinfeld, Jonathan Demme and Louis C.K..

    From all of the names above I suspect only Stephen Daldry (The Crown), Jean-Marc Vallée (Big Little Lies) and Joe Wright (Black Mirror) will be nominated with Matthew Weiner (Orange is the New Black) being possible. What do you all think?

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    pulp50
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    Actors turned directors don’t seem to translate to many emmys.

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