September 8, 2013 at 7:45 am #296639
I know if I was voting for the Emmys (let’s say the Best Supporting Actress in a Drama category)……I am a faithful viewer (and have seen all the episodes) for Breaking Bad (Anna Gunn), Mad Men (Christina Hendricks), Homeland (Moreena Baccarin), The Good Wife (Christine Baranski), Game of Thrones (Emilia Clarke) but I have not seen Downton Abbey (Maggie Smith)…… I would vote for someone I watch faithfully week to week. While I am a HUGE Maggie Smith fan (and actually met her as the picture of me on these forums shows), I would not vote for her simply because I have seen all the episodes of all the others. I have only seen clips of Downton Abbey. Emmy voters have their favourite shows and I think they would vote for the one they watch weekly rather than base their vote simply on a “best tape”. I am not sure this is “fair” but what do you think?September 8, 2013 at 8:34 am #296641
I think it’s easy for a non-voter to be skeptical of the system, and I certainly understand why we would be tempted to vote for a favorite series or favorite performer.
I do believe, however, that a real Academy member understands the rules that they must abide by, and I think they do so willingly. I would assume all voters want to maintain a certainly level legitimacy that playing by the rules, i.e. only voting on the submitted episode, gives to the Emmy Awards.
Formerly known in the forums as PianoMann.September 8, 2013 at 8:48 am #296642
I’m sure some voters don’t watch the tapes, and some voters dismiss the tapes and go with their favorites. But enough of them take the tapes to heart to make a real impression.September 8, 2013 at 9:18 am #296643
I’m sure some voters don’t have the time to watch too many shows so episodes really helps them in ranking the nominees. Unless you really really feel that a particular nominee should be ranked first despite the episodes, I think most voters depends on the tapes to decide their finall rankings. I think in series probably they might have a tendency to go for their favourite as they need to sit through 12 episodes. but for performances, it’s only 6 episodes (or more if they submit an extended or two-parter, which is not a norm). ultimately, it’s up to the voters whether they prefer to vote for a season arc or the submitted episode of the nominee.
i think those who is playing in my game attests to how the submitted episodes at times really shook up our rankings or even make us a new favourite of certain performers in a particular episode of a show that we might have missed out.September 8, 2013 at 9:35 am #296644
You can tell at least some voters watch the tapes from the year Kyra Sedgwick beat Julianna Margulies.September 8, 2013 at 10:49 am #296645
Sometimes they do, sometimes they don’t.September 8, 2013 at 10:56 am #296646
If I were a voter I’d take heed of the tapes, but if I know a performer delivered throughout a whole season but didn’t submit a great tape then I’d be inclined to vote for that individual. I watch a good deal of TV however and have an idea about what most of these nominees did this past season. Many voters don’t watch much TV or any at all, and entirely depend on the submissions. And of course, some just vote for their favorite actors or vote with the buzz. We also need to acknowledge that not every voter is gonna agree with the consesus here. Just because we might like a submission doesn’t mean a great of voters will.
It’s not one simple answer to such a question, which is why the Emmys are so often difficult to predict.September 8, 2013 at 11:54 am #296647
I think everything sort of evens itself out. I think, in a certain categories, half the voters vote for their favorites and the other half vote based on tapes (mostly because they aren’t familiar with the series).
I thought tapes were just “guides” because most people don’t have the time to watch every single episode of every single series. I don’t think a voter should have to vote based only on one tape. Is that actually a rule? Like is “you must vote based on the tape and only the tape” actually in the rule book?September 8, 2013 at 12:10 pm #296648
I know in my case, in my opinion based on the whole series (minus Downton Abbey) which I didn’t see, Anna Gunn should win Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series for Breaking Bad. Would I mind if Christina Hendricks (who doesn’t deserve the win based on this season) won? Not a chance! Based on the whole series, I think Christina Hendricks should have any Emmy in my opinion. It is hard to be objective rather than subjective, and I am sure some of that subjectivity gets in the way. It’s only human!September 8, 2013 at 4:31 pm #296649
There are instances where I feel episodes are watched: Kyra Sedgwick, Zeljko Ivanek, and Kristin Chenoweth.
Then there are times when a performer has a great season but submits a bad episode, and loses: Lily Tomlin (wrongfully in Guest) for Damages, which paved the way for a lets-honor-an-overdue-vet win by Ann-Margret. Lets not also forget about Laurie Metcalf for Desperate Housewives, who didn’t submit “Bang,” and lost.
There will be cases this year that show what voters are going off of — The biggest would be Emilia Clarke. If she wins, it’s because enough fans of the entire series (regular viewers) elevated her to a win. Because I don’t see how anyone could watch a submission like Clarke’s and say it’s better than Gunn, Smith or Baccarin’s.September 8, 2013 at 8:55 pm #296650
I hope voters really paid close attention to Vera Farmiga’s submission. Her performance in the episode she submitted is pretty emotional and dynamic. I think she could possibly win if voters watch her tape. She has a lot of range, empathy and impact.September 8, 2013 at 9:05 pm #296651
I hope voters really paid close attention to Vera Farmiga’s submission. Her performance in the episode she submitted is pretty emotional and dynamic. I think she could possibly win if voters watch her tape. She has a lot of range, empathy and impact.
A perfect example of voters watching episodes. Danes has the buzz (and in all fairness, the second best submission) coming off of two Globe wins, a SAG win, last year’s Emmy win, and her series winning the top prize at the Emmys and Globes. But Farmiga has the best submission, plain and simple (and overall season, in my opinion). Kyra Sedgwick and (as much as it pains me to say this) Patricia Arquette had the best submissions when they won. So in this case it’ll be interesting to see if Danes’ buzz continues or if Farmiga’s strong work prevails. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I can’t imagine how impossible this race would have been with Glenn Close and Tatiana Maslany in the mix. If those two submitted their best, Farmiga would be in third, and Danes would be an afterthought, in fourth (speaking submission-wise … Buzz-wise, Danes is in a strong first place).September 8, 2013 at 9:09 pm #296652
And this can be expanded into other categories as well…
Lead Actress in a Comedy:
– Best submission: Laura Dern
– Highest buzz: Lena Dunham and JLD.
Lead Actor in a Comedy:
– Best submission: Jason Bateman
– Highest buzz: Louis CK
[yet both will lose to Jim Parsons]
Supp. Actress in a Comedy
– Best submission: Jane Krakowski
– Highest buzz: Julie Bowen (this category loves its repeat-winners)