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  • Tom O’Neil
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    #352960

    Bravo to Jalal Haddad for his excellent article /analysis on a topic we’ve long suspected, but hadn’t proved. Now revealed: 50% of Emmy nominees are listed in the top 30% of Emmy ballots.


    http://tinyurl.com/o682xcd

    https://shar.es/1qNlA4

    http://www.goldderby.com/news/9708/michelle-dockery-downton-abbey-nick-offerman-parks-and-recreation-entertainment-13579086-story.html

    Is anybody surprised? 

    Who gets screwed by this phenom on Thursday?

     

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    Anonymous
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    That’s very interesting and something I’ve been wondering recently. In a really tough category, like lead actress in a drama, that could potentially hurt Ruth Wilson, Kerry Washington, Taylor Schilling, and Keri Russell. And for supporting actress, that could potentially hurt Lorraine Toussaint and Yael Stone’s chances. But perhaps that could help Carrie Coon get a nomination.

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    KyleBailey
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    #352963

    I don’t think the voters are THAT lazy. 

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    Ken Bendor
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    #352964

    Bravo to Jalal Haddad for his excellent article /analysis on a topic we’ve long suspected, but hadn’t proved. Now revealed: 50% of Emmy nominees are listed in the top 30% of Emmy ballots.


    http://tinyurl.com/o682xcd

    https://shar.es/1qNlA4

    http://www.goldderby.com/news/9708/michelle-dockery-downton-abbey-nick-offerman-parks-and-recreation-entertainment-13579086-story.html

    Is anybody surprised? 

    Who gets screwed by this phenom on Thursday?

     

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Wow, what a dumba–ed article with no basis in fact, logic or reason- can these ‘articles’ get any more navel-gazing and lame?

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    moviefan61794
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    The problem is that, unless the Emmys start handing out individual ballots tailored for each voter with the order of actors completely random, this won’t change. If it’s even an issue to begin with…

    I mean, it’s not like the Emmys are gonna say “Okay, this year we’re gonna list the people that are ACTUALLY contenders first, and then all the people that have no shot in hell after that.” 

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    Riley
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    Wow, what a dumba–ed article with no basis in fact, logic or reason- can these ‘articles’ get any more navel-gazing and lame?

    The article had statistics.

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    Rooney Moore
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    Hey, relax, no one’s claiming the whole process rely on this. It says that it could have been a factor and I think it is quite possible. We all know the ballots is larging every year and even most of us who are obseessed with Emmys couldn’t finish the whole, before bored of it. Why would the Emmy voters care more than us? Comparing to the Oscars they have 20+ more categories to vote for and nearly 2000+ actor to check.
    After they’ve received the ballot, they probably name-checking their favourite shows/actors(Ctrl+F) first, and then maybe some of their friends, and if they have some more time/spot left, they might wanna scroll down the whole ballot. For example, let’s say I like The Good Wife- not very passionate about it, but I enjoy it- and wanted to vote for it in the guest actor, but I only had one empty slot left. And while I scroll down, I saw Dylan Baker who is always up in the ballot and added him to my list. Over and done with.
    See, I might have liked David Hyde Pierce’s performance more in that season but I don’t think lot of them are overthinking about this like us, especially in the minor categories, especially for the filler-ish spots.

    And I also wanna say that people who are in the bottom of the ballot just as lucky as the people who are at the top. You eventually have to see them once you’ve skipped to the next category.
    Poeple who have stucked in the middle are most unluckies. 

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    Gone_Guy
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    Maslany and Moss IN, Washington OUT. (But Wright still in.)
    Cumming and Dinklage IN, Patinkin and Voight OUT. 
    Aduba IN. Toussaint OUT.
    Alexander and Brosnahan IN. Los Smith OUT. (But Tyson still in.)

    A lot of contradictions on this theory. I’m going to give voters credit and assume they wouldn’t be trapped by alphabetical listing. The biggest indicator where this may have happened was Drama Supporting Actor, where two actors – Cumming and Dinklage – that did nothing worthy of a nomination in their season, still managed to get in while their superior costars – Matt Czuchry and Kit Harrington – were left out. This also meant two veteran actors and previous nominees, Mandy Patinkin and Jon Voight, were also left out.  

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    RobertPius
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    #352969

    I remember a few years ago Patrick Adams got a sag nomination which was kind of a surprise.  I think being listed first on the lengthy balllot helped him.

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    Halo_Insider
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    Courtney B. Vance, possibly. A lot of us had him pegged to possibly win.

    Though it was also pointed out in the previous thread we had about him that he was also up for Masters of Sex, so there’s a very slight possibility that he split votes (though I hadn’t really heard any buzz for that performance as of late, so I’m not sure what to make of it).

    Additionally, it was pointed out that Pablo Schreiber made it in, despite being listed less than 20 spots above Vance on the ballot. I guess more people were paying attention to Orange is the New Black than to Scandal in this category.

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    RobertPius
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    Those ballots can be ridiculously long. I think fatigue must set in and people start scanning for a familiar face.Often times I think those lists are filled with like 50% obscure names that no one has heard of.

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