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Doris Roberts’ Emmy Wins – I Demand An Explanation!

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    All in jest of course, but seriously, who the hell was voting for her all the time all those years? She won in 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2005, with Cynthia Nixon winning in 2004. Kristen Johnston beat her in 1999, and Megan Mullally in 2000. She’s great on that show, don’t get me wrong, and I think she deserved at least one Emmy for her work, but 4 wins? Really? Did she just have killer episode submissions or was it generally a weak field for those few years?

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    This is a case where I really wish she could have lost twice, once to Kim Cattrall and once to Kristin Davis (although Davis lost to Cynthia Nixon). It’s not that I mind Roberts having four Emmys, per se, it’s just that Cattrall and Davis don’t have any. Those two being Emmyless feels just like it would if only two of the four Golden Girls won. They were all four iconic characters on an iconic series. As for Roberts, they just couldn’t resist the older lady with the one-liners (sort of the Maggie Smith equivalent in Comedy). Today, Estelle Getty would sweep all seven years in a row. (And I wouldn’t mind one bit.) 

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    This is a case where I really wish she could have lost twice, once to Kim Cattrall and once to Kristin Davis (although Davis lost to Cynthia Nixon). It’s not that I mind Roberts having four Emmys, per se, it’s just that Cattrall and Davis don’t have any. Those two being Emmyless feels just like it would if only two of the four Golden Girls won. They were all four iconic characters on an iconic series. As for Roberts, they just couldn’t resist the older lady with the one-liners (sort of the Maggie Smith equivalent in Comedy). Today, Estelle Getty would sweep all seven years in a row. (And I wouldn’t mind one bit.) 

    I always felt like giving someone multiple Emmys for the same role is stupid as hell. Even if the person is the outstanding one in a row (it’s not the case with Roberts, lol) there are probably at least 500 as worthy as she is/he is. Kim Cattrall and Kristin Davis should be Emmy-winners for Sex and the City.

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    [quote=”Morgan_Henard”]This is a case where I really wish she could have lost twice, once to Kim Cattrall and once to Kristin Davis (although Davis lost to Cynthia Nixon). It’s not that I mind Roberts having four Emmys, per se, it’s just that Cattrall and Davis don’t have any. Those two being Emmyless feels just like it would if only two of the four Golden Girls won. They were all four iconic characters on an iconic series. As for Roberts, they just couldn’t resist the older lady with the one-liners (sort of the Maggie Smith equivalent in Comedy). Today, Estelle Getty would sweep all seven years in a row. (And I wouldn’t mind one bit.) 

    I always felt like giving someone multiple Emmys for the same role is stupid as hell. Even if the person is the outstanding one in a row (it’s not the case with Roberts, lol) there are probably at least 500 as worthy as she is/he is. Kim Cattrall and Kristin Davis should be Emmy-winners for Sex and the City.[/quote]

    I don’t mind it so much these days with dramatic performances, at least if the character is evolving with the show and giving something fresh and dynamic enough to justify continued praise (Cranston in Breaking Bad is a prime example of that, maybe not so much James Spader in Boston Legal). But yeah, I tend to be in agreement regarding comedic performances, at least when it seems like they’re doing a schtick. 2 Emmys I can be pretty okay with, but 3-4 more often than not shows me that voters were really just uncreative in their decision making. 

    I haven’t watched the tapes enough to know when she was deserving, or who was when. I do love Roberts’ performance in “Marie’s Sculpture” from 2002, so that seems like an overall acceptable win, but I don’t know about the strength of her competition, having not seen Sex and the City. 

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    The Emmys gave Everybody Loves Raymond comedy series over season 2 of Arrested Development. I think that’s all you need to know.

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    The Emmys gave Everybody Loves Raymond comedy series over season 2 of Arrested Development. I think that’s all you need to know.

    “That’s a wonderful performance, Dad. You’re a regular Brad Garrett.” 

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    Doris Roberts played a hilarious character on a show the Emmys really enjoyed.

     

    The only disappointing thing is that Peter Boyle never won for the show.

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    While Roberts had no business winning four Emmys in five years it was the perfect Emmy-type performance. It was a broad performance by a verteran on a hugely popular show, and she always had Emmy friendly/baity tapes. I can’t feel too bad for Cattrall or Davis. Cynthia Nixon was always the best thing about that series by some distance. Besides, in the span of time that Roberts was dominating Kelly Bishop (Gilmore girls), Jessica Walter (Arrested Development) and Sarah Chalke (Scubs) went mostly unnoticed when each gave imo overall stronger performances than Cattrall or Davis. So, can’t feel bad. 

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    Did she just have killer episode submissions or was it generally a weak field for those few years? 

    Yes, she had killer episode submissions. That’s the main reason she kept winning. Her material was very good and sometimes was emotional, so it gave her the chance to dig deeper than her competitors. Also, I wouldn’t call the field weak, but it wasn’t particularly strong either. I wouldn’t give her 4 Emmys but it’s easy to see why she won.

    Kim Cattrall was fun in her role and good enough for her Golden Globe, but she was uneven. She is a limited actress and she had some bad moments. The nomination for Kristin Davis was rather generous. No way she deserved an actual Emmy.

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    This Raymond situation comes up every other year and all it does is show that people just didn’t watch the tapes back then or haven’t watched them before opening threads like this or commenting on them.

    While it’s true that many would want Catrall to have an Emmy and while it’s true that she did deserve it, and Mullally had a nice shot too with the Stan dying/Minnie Driver storylines (and by the look on her face that Emmy year she really thought she would win,) Doris Roberts nailed not one, not two, but all four of her Emmy years in terms of submissions. Wether they were written as Emmy tapes or just good luck for Roberts and Marie, those episodes were pretty damn fantastic and in at least two of those cases, unbeatable.

    I’m a much bigger fan of Catrall, Davis, Nixon, Mullally and others than I am of Roberts, but common, watch the tapes and then come back.

    Another thing that always comes up and already did here is their second Best Comedy Series win, which not only beat Arrested Development, it also beat Desperate Housewives first season. It was a shock…if you didn’t watch the tapes. I did back then and those submissions were perfect, so were AD’s but the DH people made some mistakes. It wasn’t that widely predicted, not necessarily deserved (I would’ve given the win to AD) but common, great submissions, final season, extremely popular show, farewell sentiment: Gold.

    So again, watch tapes, “demand an explanation” later. 

    And yes, Peter Boyle deserved to win for that final season (and Georgia Engle too), but Garrett’s submissions were more of the same: killer Emmy moments. 

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    This Raymond situation comes up every other year and all it does is show that people just didn’t watch the tapes back then or haven’t watched them before opening threads like this or commenting on them.

    While it’s true that many would want Catrall to have an Emmy and while it’s true that she did deserve it, and Mullally had a nice shot too with the Stan dying/Minnie Driver storylines (and by the look on her face that Emmy year she really thought she would win,) Doris Roberts nailed not one, not two, but all four of her Emmy years in terms of submissions. Wether they were written as Emmy tapes or just good luck for Roberts and Marie, those episodes were pretty damn fantastic and in at least two of those cases, unbeatable.

    I’m a much bigger fan of Catrall, Davis, Nixon, Mullally and others than I am of Roberts, but common, watch the tapes and then come back.

    Another thing that always comes up and already did here is their second Best Comedy Series win, which not only beat Arrested Development, it also beat Desperate Housewives first season. It was a shock…if you didn’t watch the tapes. I did back then and those submissions were perfect, so were AD’s but the DH people made some mistakes. It wasn’t that widely predicted, not necessarily deserved (I would’ve given the win to AD) but common, great submissions, final season, extremely popular show, farewell sentiment: Gold.

    So again, watch tapes, “demand an explanation” later. 

    And yes, Peter Boyle deserved to win for that final season (and Georgia Engle too), but Garrett’s submissions were more of the same: killer Emmy moments. 

    I’m still baffled by how Boyle never won an Emmy for that show. Especially looking at his episode submissions for 2005. He should have won for “Boys’ Therapy” alone. I mean, Garrett’s submissions were always great (especially in 2002 and 2003), but Boyle should have won at least one. It’s weird to think that he is the only one out of the main cast to not win an Emmy for the show. 

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    Because the Emmys love rubberstamping old people – no explanation needed.

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    I know, I loved Peter Boyle on that show, and really do think he deserved to win an Emmy for his perfect Frank. Maybe I’m one of few people who disliked Garrett on that show (he was just annoying); I would have preferred to see Boyle getting 2 or 3 Emmys over Garrett. He played such an unlikable character with such heart and humor that it was impossible to dislike him. 

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    If it were up to me, she would have won only two emmys (the 53rd and 54th emmy ceremonies) and Cheryl Hines and Holland Taylor would have won in the othr years.

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    Roberts’ totally stole Jessica Walter’s Emmy in 2005. That had Lucille Bluth written all over it. 

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