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  • Gone_Guy
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    #344411

    This is a poll to decide who stands the biggest chance of being eliminated from a fourth or higher nomination for work on a current series. There’s way more than one on here that I don’t think will make the cut, but vote on the one you that you know 100 percent has no chance of getting back in. (Considering this is the Emmys, 100 percent is very ballsy.)

    Last year, several in Drama categories were dropped. Elisabeth Moss didn’t receive a Mad Men nom after five consecutive nominations (Lead in 09, 11, 12, and 13; Supp. in 10; plus, she had an additional nom in 2013 for Lead Actress/Miniseries). Michael J. Fox was dropped after three consecutive nominations in Guest Actor for The Good Wife. Both Moss and Fox are eligible again this year for those same roles. They brought back Julianna Margulies and gave her the win, so it’s not a bad position to be in.  

    Actors nominated last year that are up for a third nomination this year could be on the chopping-block as well. Those contenders in the dramatic acting categories are Kevin Spacey, Jeff Daniels, Robin Wright, Kerry Washington, Mandy Patinkin, Joanne Froggatt, Jane Fonda, Margo Martindale, and Diana Rigg. 

    An elaboratIon on those who could garner a fourth or higher nomination this year is below. The focus is on the acting categories so, for example, I will put all of Jon Hamm’s info, but this thread pertains to his chances in “Mad Men.” If you think he may be dropped in Lead Actor but still get in Drama Series and/or Guest Actor (for “Unbreakable Kimmie Schmidt”), vote for him. 

    Jon Hamm, “Mad Men”
    – 7 consecutive nominations in Lead Actor

    – An additional 3 nominations as a producer of “Mad Men”
    – An additional 3 nominations in Guest Actor for “30 Rock”
    – A total of 13 nominations across 3 categories, and 0 wins.

    – Factoid: Once he lost his 6th nom [in Lead Actor], he became the category’s biggest loser. Losing number 7 meant he beat his own record. 

    Claire Danes, “Homeland”
    – She won two years in a row in 2012 and 2013.
    – Last year, she lost to Julianna Margulies.

    – She had an Emmy win in 2010 in Lead Actress/Miniseries-or-Telefilm for “Temple Grandin.” 
    – Her very first nomination was for the only season of “My So-Called Life,” in 1995. She lost to Kathy Baker, who won her second of three Emmys for “Picket Fences.”
    – Danes’ Emmy record stands at 3/5.   

    Factoid: If snubbed for a nom, Danes would have the same history in this category as Glenn Close did for “Damages.’ That is, winning twice in a row, losing for the third season, then dropped. 

    Michelle Dockery, “Downton Abbey”
    – 3 consecutive nominations in Lead Actress. She lost the first two to Claire Danes, and she lost last year to Julianna Margulies.

    – Factoid: She only has 1 won SAG nom [Individual] and Globe nom, both in 2013 for the first season.

    Julianna Margulies, “The Good Wife”
    – She won last year, and for the second season in 2011.
    – She was not nominated for season four (Claire Danes won her second), but came back last year for a nom for her 5th season, and she won.
    – She lost for the 1st season to Kyra Sedgwick and the 3rd season to Claire Danes. 

    – An additional win in 1995 in Supporting Actress for “E.R.” It was her very first nomination. She would garner a second nomination in the same category the next year. The following four years, she would garner consecutive nominations in Lead Actress. 
    – For “E.R.,” she stands at 1/6.
    – For “The Good Wife,” she stands at 2/4.
    – Her total Emmy record is 3/10.

    – Factoid: If she wins this year, she will be the sixth actress to win this category three times for the same role/series (as will Claire Danes). They are Edie Falco for “The Sopranos” (99, 01, 03), Kathy Baker for “Picket Fences” (93, 95, 96), Michael Learned for “The Waltons” (73, 74, 76), Barbara Bain for “Mission: Impossible” (67, 68, 69), and Loretta Young for “Letters to Loretta” (55, 57, 59). Tyne Daly holds the record with four wins for the same role for “Cagney & Lacey” (83, 84, 85, 88). Michael Learned has four wins in this category, but her fourth came for the drama series, “Nurse” (82).   Patricia Wettig has three wins for “Thirtysomething,” but the first one was in Supporting. Allison Janney has four wins for “The West Wing,” but the first two were in Supporting.

    Peter Dinklage, “Game of Thrones”
    – He won for season 1.
    – Following his win, he garnered 3 consecutive nominations.

    – Factoid: If he garners another nomination, he will join five other actors who garnered 5 nominations. They were Aaron Paul for “Breaking Bad” (3/5), William Shatner for “Boston Legal” (1/5), Michael Imperioli for “The Sopranos” (1/5), John Spencer for “The West Wing” (1/5) and Noah Wyle for “E.R.” (0/5). The record for most nominations in this category is six noms, held by four actors. They are Jimmy Smits for “L.A. Law” (1/6), Ed Begley Jr. for “St. Elsewhere” (0/6), Bruce Weitz for “Hill Street Blues” (1/6), and Will Geer for “The Waltons” (1/6). The creators of “Game of Thrones” have said they only intend for the series to go for seven seasons. Should Dinklage get nominated for the next three seasons, he would not have only been nominated for every single season, but also will become the most nominated performer in this cateogory’s history. Begley and Weitz couldn’t pull this off because “St. Elsewhere” and “Hill Street Blues” were only six seasons. Smits couldn’t pull this off because, despite “L.A. Law” being on for eight seasons, he left after the sixth. And lastly, Geer couldn’t pull this off becasuse he passed away after the sixth season. In-fact, his sixth and final nomination for “The Waltons” was posthumous.

    DISCLAIMER/WARNING: I HAVE NOT READ THE BOOKS TO “GAME OF THRONES” AND DON’T INTEND TO. I AVOID SPOILERS LIKE THE PLAGUE. SHOULD HIS CHARACTER, TYRION LANNISTER, BE KILLED OFF, DISAPPEAR, ETC. (ANYTHING THAT WOULD RESULT IN DINKLAGE NOT BEING ELIGIBLE FOR A 6TH AND/OR 7TH EMMY), KEEP QUIET! NO HINTS, NO “JUST WAIT AND SEE,” NO “HE’LL ONLY BE ELIGIBLE FOR GUEST,” NO “OH HE WILL TOTALLY BE ABLE TO PULL OFF SEVEN NOMINATIONS,” “NO I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE HIM MAKE EMMY HISTORY,” NO WINK FACES, NO SAD FACES, NO HAPPY FACES, NONE OF THAT. PLEASE, NOTHING PERTAINING TO DINKLAGE ON “GAME OF THRONES” BEYOND THE UPCOMING SEASON 5 (AND NOTHING ABOUT WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN ON SAID SEASON EITHER). I TYPE IN BOLD CAPS ON BEHALF OF ALL “GAME OF THRONES” FANS LIKE MYSELF WHO LOVE THE SERIES DESPITE HAVING NOT READ THE BOOKS. AS A VIEWER, I/WE SHARE THE SAME ENTHUSIASM AS YOU, SO PLEASE DON’T RUIN IT FOR A FELLOW-FAN THAT HATES SPOILERS. PLEASE, AND THANK YOU.  

    Jim Carter, “Downton Abbey”
    – This would be his fourth conscutive nomination. 
    – He lost last his first and third to Aaron Paul for “Breaking Bad,” and he lost his second to Bobby Cannavale for “Boardwalk Empire.”

    Factoid: He is the only performer on this list without an individual acting nomination at Globe, SAG, Television Critics Choice, and/or TCA. He is, however, included in the Ensemble for the series at SAG. 

    Christine Baranski, “The Good Wife”
    – She has 5 consecutive noms for “The Good Wife.” 
    – She lost her first to costar Archie Panjabi, her second to Margo Martindale for “Justified,” her third to Maggie Smith for “Downton Abbey,” and her fourth and fifth to Anna Gunn for “Breaking Bad.”

    – An additional win in 1995 in Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series for “Cybil.”
    – Three additional nominations for “Cybil,” a nomination for each of the four seasons of the series.
    – Three additional nominations in Guest Comedy Actress, the first for “Frasier,” and the next two for “The Big Bang Theory.”
    – Her total Emmy record stands at 1/12, spanning four series. 

    – Factoid: She won her very first Emmy in 1995 in Supporting Comedy Actress “Cybil.” Over in Supporting Drama Actress, her future costar of “The Good Wife,” Julianna Margulies, was winning her first ever Emmy for “E.R.”  

    Christina Hendricks, “Mad Men” 
    – She has received 5 consecutive nominations, losing to the same people that Christine Baranski lost to (just above). 

    Factoid: If she garners this sixth nomination, she would be the most nominated actress of “Mad Men.” Right now, she and costar, Elisabeth Moss, share the title. (Of course, Moss could get back in, which would keep she and Hendricks tied.)
     

    Maggie Smith, “Downton Abbey” 
    – Won for this role [in this category] in 2011. 
    – She garnered an additional three nominations, losing to Margo Martindale for “The Americans” for season two, and the last two years to Anna Gunn for “Breaking Bad.”
    – She also won for this role in 2010 when the first season contended in the Miniseries/Telefilm categories. 

    – An additional win in 2003 in Lead Actress Miniseries/Telefilm for “My House in Umbria.” 
    – Additional nomination in Supporting Actress Miniseres/Telefilm in 2000 for “David Copperfield” (lost to Vanessa Redgrave for “If These Walls Could Talk 2”). 
    – Additional two nominations in Lead Actress Miniseries/Telefilm in 2010 for “Capturing Mary” (lost to Claire Danes for “Temple Grandin”) and 1993, her very first Emmy nomination, for “Suddenly, Last Summer” (lost to Holly Hunter for “The Positively True Adventures of the Alleged Texas Cheerleader-Murdering Mom”). 
    – Her total Emmy record stands at 3/8, spanning four different categories.

    FACTOID: For “Downton Abbey,” Maggie Smith has won two Emmys, 1 Golden Globe, 1 [Individual] SAG Award, and 2 Ensemble SAG Awards. She has not been present any of them to accept. In-fact, she also wasn’t present when she won first Emmy in 2003 for “My House in Umbria,” putting her at 3 Emmy wins and 0 Emmy Acceptance Speeches. 

    Dylan Baker, “The Good Wife” (Guest Actor)
    – He has received 3 noms for his guest role as Colin Sweeney on “The Good Wife,” in 2010, 2012, and 2014.
    – He lost in 2010 to John Lithgow for “Dexter,” lost in 2012 to Jeremy Davies for “Justified,” and lost last year to Joe Morton for “Scandal.”

    Factoid: When he received his first nomination in 2010, he was also eligible in the same category for guest roles on “Kings” and “Law & Order: Criminal Intent.” (He was elgible in Supporting Drama Actor for “Damages.”) When he received his second nomination in 2012, he was also eligible in the same category for guest roles on “Burn Notice” and “Smash.” Last year, when he received his third nomination, he was also eligible in the same category for guest roles on “Zero Hour,” “Chicago Fire,” and “Chicago P.D.” This year, he is eligble for “The Good Wife” again, and also already up against himself, this time for guest work on the final season of “The Mentalist.”      

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    JB
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    #344413

    I’d say Jim Carter is in the most danger of those choices followed by Michelle Dockrey…. The rest all have really good shot at noms and I’d say Dinklage, Hamm, Marguiles, Smith, and Baranski are all pretty much locks. 

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    KyleBailey
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    #344414

    I think Dockery and Danes are the ones in danger due to how packed the field is. Jim Carter will get in because the buzz in that category is not there for many other people 

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    DominicCobb
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    #344415

    THANK YOU for that disclaimer!

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    AviChristiaans
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    #344416

    Claire Danes aint going nowhere. The thought of Danes getting snubbed is ABSURD! That would be the singular most ridiculous snub in this category. And i can make a pretty compelling case for much loathed Michelle Dockery as well. (Please keep her at 100/1 odds in the Prediction centre. I beg of you!). The one in danger is Jim Carter.

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    WaltEagle
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    #344417

    Jim Carter would be my answer…although it feels like he’ll be dropped every year and he’s still getting nominated. I definitely don’t think the category will lack buzzy contenders come nomination time though.

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    Gone_Guy
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    Interesting that 54 percent of this poll is split between both “Downton Abbey” three-timers, Michelle Dockery and Jim Carter. I have yet to watch the series (I will binge it one day), but was there a drop in quality for season five? If Dockery and Carter are atop lists to be let go, what about Maggie Smith? Will she stay in because of her name and status, or because she deserves to be there? And what about Globe winner Joanne Froggatt?

    Everyone on the list, thus far, has at least one vote, with the exception of Jon Hamm. I don’t think he will be dropped either, but perennial losers have missed out on nominations for their final seasons before in this very category, most recently Hugh Laurie for “House” and Michael C. Hall for “Dexter.” Here’s to hoping Hamm doesn’t join them; in-fact, I’m rooting for his win.

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    helmetz
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    And i can make a pretty compelling case for much loathed [b]Michelle Dockery[/b] as well.

    Much-loathed?  Ah….by whom?  I agree that Dockery is one of the actresses on the bubble, but I watched her in the season finale last night, and she was pretty fabulous.

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    mikeboy898
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    #344420

    I hope the love for Downton Abbey simmers down a little this year.

    And I really hope Elisabeth Moss can get in 1 final time for Mad Men. I know it doesn’t bode well for her that she wasn’t nominated last year, but even if she goes Supporting (which is possible in just 7 episodes), I’d be happy. She’s a marvel on screen, along with Christina Hendricks. I don’t think any of us need to be concerned about Claire Danes this year. She was even better in S.4 compared to S.3. Marguiles’ history with the Emmy’s is more questionable. Yes, she’s won a couple times, but she also wasn’t even nominated the year SEVEN actresses got nominated for Lead Actress. I don’t think she’s on the bubble as much as Michelle Dockery, though.

    I really hope Emmy voters go the right route this year and Davis, Washington and Henson instead of the same old boring British people.

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    WaltEagle
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    The reviews for Dexter and House went way downhill in their later seasons. While everyone may have their favourite Mad Men seasons, the show has remained well-received, so dropping Hamm feels way less likely than what happened to Laurie and Hall.

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    DS0816
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    #344422

    [b]Claire Danes[/b] aint going nowhere. The thought of Danes getting snubbed is ABSURD! …

    Look at those series leads, in both drama and comedy, who were snubbed in the very weird year of 2006. Go back 30 years earlier, in 1976, to All in the Family leads Carroll O’Connor and Jean Stapleton. Look at Julianna Margulies from 2013.

    I won’t predict with Claire Danes in 2015. But, it’s not out of the realm of possibility.

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    Ghost
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    #344423

    Probably Dockery, though I’m still predicting her. I’m surprised JIm Carter has that many votes, he’s not going anywhere.

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    Andrew Eng
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    Probably Dockery, but I’m still predicting her. And Carter hasn’t missed since he started submitting in 2012; until he is actually dropped, I won’t remove him from my predictions. 

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    Deniz Sisman
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    #344425

    Dockery and most of the Downton Abbey people have always getting in because every category needs at least one popular choice whether deserving or not. Every year is the same. But now there are two more freshy and popular actresses from very popular shows; Taraji P.Henson(she also has a name) and Taylor Schilling. So if the voters go by their hearts Dockery is probably out; if they go by their brains she is totally out.

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    Maggie Smith, “Downton Abbey” 
    – Won for this role [in this category] in 2011. 
    – She garnered an additional three nominations, losing to Margo Martindale for “The Americans” for season two, and the last two years to Anna Gunn for “Breaking Bad.”
    – She also won for this role in 2010 when the first season contended in the Miniseries/Telefilm categories. 
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    Smith won Drama Supporting Actress in 2012, not 2011, when she won Mini/Movie Supporting Actress. Basically, she won for her first two nominations. Also, Smith never lost to Martindale as they never faced off.

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