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  • rstang00
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    Yo yo fellow derbyites. I’m looking for some opinions on my ballot here (only 5 days left to vote!). Comedy Series I went with “Veep” – easy. But the following categories I haven’t a damn clue on who to go with, one big one in particular:

    Best Drama Series – I originally thought ‘Game of Thrones’ over and done. But since I’ve had time to stew after the season finale aired over a month or two ago the “Wow” factor of those last two episodes has worn off. Overall I thought this was an extremely weak, grating, uneven and gimmicky season of the show. I thought Season 5 was incredible so I’m no hater, I just didn’t like this season as a whole. 4 great episodes outta 10 is an F. My other choice would be ‘House of Cards’ which I thought had a solid season (I hated last season). The others in the race: ‘Better Call Saul’ (yawn), ‘The Americans’ (no thanks) and ‘Homeland’ (old news) won’t get my vote no matter the argument. ‘Mr. Robot’ I thought had a great 1st season but this uneven 2nd season currently airing isn’t doing it any favors – tho I know we’re only supposed to judge on the 1st season but really does anyone honestly think the first Emmy Drama Series win for ‘Breaking Bad’ was really on that boring-ass season while the final was airing? Na. And what about ‘Downton Abbey’ which has consistently been very good and never won the Drama Series prize. It won SAG and that was a pure popular vote. Four good options here, but who? Do I just follow the GoT herd? Or go Robot/Abbey/Cards? Hmmm …

    How about the following:

    Outstanding Variety Talk Series
    I’m thinking James Corden? Sorry, but John Oliver bugs the crap outta me.
    Outstanding Variety Sketch Series
    Outstanding Variety Special
    Outstanding Special Class Program
    Grease: Live ?

    I’ve watched a few episodes on each of these and nothing is really stands above the other to me. What do you think?

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    jasonface
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    Overall, I agree with your opinions on Drama Series and it sounds like the best of the bunch right now is House of Cards.

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    Jalal Haddad
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    I’m glad to see someone else is annoyed by John Oliver. I don’t enjoy LWT nearly as much as the rest of the world seems to. My preference would be Jimmy Kimmel. James Corden is having a great year but I think Kimmel is very underrated.

    We have very different opinions on the drama race. I really enjoyed this season of GoT while I thought last year’s winning season was absolutely dreadful. I’m not a huge fan of any of the other contenders overall. I enjoyed the last season of DA and thought this was the best season of HoC but I wouldn’t go out of my way to champion either of them.

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    Teridax
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    Yo yo fellow derbyites. I’m looking for some opinions on my ballot here (only 5 days left to vote!). Comedy Series I went with “Veep” – easy. But the following categories I haven’t a damn clue on who to go with, one big one in particular:

    Best Drama Series – I originally thought ‘Game of Thrones’ over and done. But since I’ve had time to stew after the season finale aired over a month or two ago the “Wow” factor of those last two episodes has worn off. Overall I thought this was an extremely weak, grating, uneven and gimmicky season of the show. I thought Season 5 was incredible so I’m no hater, I just didn’t like this season as a whole. 4 great episodes outta 10 is an F. My other choice would be ‘House of Cards’ which I thought had a solid season (I hated last season). The others in the race: ‘Better Call Saul’ (yawn), ‘The Americans’ (no thanks) and ‘Homeland’ (old news) won’t get my vote no matter the argument. ‘Mr. Robot’ I thought had a great 1st season but this uneven 2nd season currently airing isn’t doing it any favors – tho I know we’re only supposed to judge on the 1st season but really does anyone honestly think the first Emmy Drama Series win for ‘Breaking Bad’ was really on that boring-ass season while the final was airing? Na. And what about ‘Downton Abbey’ which has consistently been very good and never won the Drama Series prize. It won SAG and that was a pure popular vote. Four good options here, but who? Do I just follow the GoT herd? Or go Robot/Abbey/Cards? Hmmm …

    How about the following:

    Outstanding Variety Talk Series
    I’m thinking James Corden? Sorry, but John Oliver bugs the crap outta me.
    Outstanding Variety Sketch Series
    Outstanding Variety Special
    Outstanding Special Class Program
    Grease: Live ?

    I’ve watched a few episodes on each of these and nothing is really stands above the other to me. What do you think?

    Drama Series:

    First of all, I would follow the Game of Thrones herd, just on merit and actually deserving the Award. “No One” and “The Broken Man” may not have been masterpieces, but I personally thought they were better acted and directed, and for sure better written, than any House of Cards Season 4 episode.

    Second, Is Mr. Robot Season 2 up for any Emmys? Just because some of your fellow Emmy voters don’t pay attention to what season they’re voting for doesn’t mean you don’t have to. If you really don’t want to vote for Game of Thrones (which, like I said, would get my vote in a heartbeat btw), then Mr. Robot Season 1 , NOT Season 2, would be the 2nd most deserving. Okay, I really think Better Call Saul Season 2 is the 2nd most deserving, but since you’re not very enthusiastic about that, I’d say go with Robot.

    Variety Series:

    Real Time With Bill Maher, I just feel like he’s been doing this forever and is soooo overdue for some Emmy love. And NO, being an executive producer of “Vice” doesn’t count, it’s not even his show. I just believe, very passionately, that Bill Maher is not only the most overdue, but the most genuinely deserving of the 6 Variety Talk Series nominees. Does he stand a shot at winning, well no. But you’re voting based on merit, then Real Time should easily be your pick.

    And besides, unlike ANY of the other nominees, with Real Time you actually get a variety of opinions and perspectives on important issues. This clip here, Cornel West’s naivete and Bill Maher’s tough logic convinced me to vote for Hillary and not for Jill Stein. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr4JALbrdIY&index=126&list=LLdFA0F5I5K2BJvByZgoF1pQ

    Variety Sketch Series:

    Key and Peele, they’re overdue, it’s for their final season, they consistently delivered some of the funniest sketch comedy throughout the years. Did I mention it’s for their final season?! Inside Amy Schumer won this last year, I think SNL won this in ’94, and last season was really uneven. Let it be Key and Peele’s overdue coronation, like the Oscars were for Leo and his Revenant performance.

    I’ll think of Variety Special and Variety Special Class Program later today.

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    How about abstaining from voting? If you don’t have an idea on those categories, just don’t vote for them.

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    jf123
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    Key and Peele for Sketch. They are amazing comedians, and there show has been constantly great for the past couple years. And this is the last year to vote for them

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    Stretchy
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    House Of Cards seems to be your choice so I’ll say go for it.

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    rstang00
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    How about abstaining from voting? If you don’t have an idea on those categories, just don’t vote for them.

    I thought about that, but isn’t a non-vote a vote for Trump? Also, why not get the advice on categories I’m unsure of from the actual experts – fellow derbyites?

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    Lord Freddy Blackfyre
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    If you think HOC is better than the others nominated series my advice to you is watch it again, House of Cards should be competing for some kind of Razzie award. Sometimes abstaining is the better course of action.

    The Americans is a wildly overrated show but is something that is worth watching, give it a chance. On Mr. Robot, the second season shouldn’t be a factor in any voters mind because you’re judging season one and season two has not ended yet. Regarding Game of Thrones, I disagree that this was a weak season, season VI is actually better than season 5 and 2 and on par with season one, even the weakest episode (No One) has a lot of merits, so watch it again.

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    I know I am in the minority but I’d suggest voting for Downton. As everyone who sees my posts knows, I thought it had a great season and would be very worthy of winning for it’s final season. Also, if you really are evenly split Ralph why not just vote for it because you’ll never be able to again? A silly reason, I know, but if you can’t think of anything to separate them quality wise.

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    Teridax
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    Variety Special:

    Adele Live In New York City, it was extremely well-produced, and since this Award goes to the producers, why not give them some recognition. I have seen very few TV concerts in my life, yet this is the only one where I feel like I got a better experience watching it on Tv than if I was actually there in person, and THAT is quite an achievement. With Amy Schumer’s comedy special on the other hand, I liked it, but I don’t think it made any difference being on TV than if I was actually there in the audience, let alone improving the experience like with the Adele concert.

    Special Class Program:

    I’d say the 88th Academy Awards, but only because Chris Rock was such a fun host. Okay, yeah the Asian jokes were stupid but besides that I thought he did an excellent job at actually being funny, especially after the bland Ellen and just weird NPH hosting gigs. Even some of the presenters like Louis C.K. had memorable moments! And I actually did like most of the Oscar winners (Go Ex Machina and Leo!), in spite of a couple disappointing moments, like Rylance beating Stallone, and Spotlight beating Mad Max: Fury Road and The Big Short. Overall, a really good host, a really well-done Awards ceremony. For sure the most Emmy-worthy of the nominees, in my honest and sincere opinion.

    Are you not allowed to vote on Animation? Why not? Just for the record, my choices would be Steven Universe (“The Answer”, my #1 all-time favorite episode of my #1 all-time favorite TV show!), and South Park (“You’re Not Yelping”, which along with “Safe Space” were the season’s two standouts in a pretty mediocre season).

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    Teridax
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    How about abstaining from voting? If you don’t have an idea on those categories, just don’t vote for them.

    I thought about that, but isn’t a non-vote a vote for Trump? Also, why not get the advice on categories I’m unsure of from the actual experts – fellow derbyites?

    I absolutely LOVE that logic, by the way! 🙂

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    How about abstaining from voting? If you don’t have an idea on those categories, just don’t vote for them.

    I thought about that, but isn’t a non-vote a vote for Trump? Also, why not get the advice on categories I’m unsure of from the actual experts – fellow derbyites?

    I don’t know but it seems like taking the high road which is almost always a good thing. If you insist on voting tho, these are my suggestions
    The Late Late Show with James Corden
    Variety Sketch Series: Anything but Inside Amy Schumer.
    Beyoncé: Lemonade
    Grease: Live

    Good luck on the voting!

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    rstang00
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    If you think HOC is better than the others nominated series my advice to you is watch it again, House of Cards should be competing for some kind of Razzie award. Sometimes abstaining is the better course of action.

    Regarding Game of Thrones, I disagree that this was a weak season, season VI is actually better than season 5 and 2 and on par with season one, even the weakest episode (No One) has a lot of merits, so watch it again.

    ‘House of Cards’ is by no means perfect, but it was balanced and its overall season was light-years better than the overall for ‘Game of Thrones’ which spent too much time on a gimmick with zero questions answered, then adding more ‘back from the dead’ crap. It would have been better served to watch Season 6 of ‘Buffy, the Vampire Slayer’ to see how to correctly handle reviving someone from the dead and not making it a ‘The Walking Dead’ shtick. Also, season 1 of GoT was boring as hell until Episode 9, so maybe you should do the re-watching.

    I’m leaning toward ‘Downton’ right now because I had been thinking like Forward was (last chance and all) and I think I’m pretty firm on not voting for ‘Game of Thrones’. Also, points well taken on S2 of ‘Robot’ – it will not sway my thinking. House/Dowton/Robot? Hmmm ….

    Teridax – thanks for the input. It’s pretty great. And yes, I do get to vote in Animated and Reality and did those already. Also voted for “Veep” as Comedy Series.

    Kylieist – I’m leaning the same way as you on all except Beyonce. Don’t really get her or her music.

    Before voting in each category you are asked to e-sign an affidavit that you have watch at least one episode in each category, not of each program. Hmm. If you say you haven’t it leads you back to the Emmy viewing site. I try and watch as much as I can of what I haven’t seen, but I can see how many Emmy voters would just click through that they have and just pick what they want. Episode submissions don’t look like they mean a thing and this year with no ranking and just a check-box for one choice, it’s really just SAG with a more condensed membership (and craploads more categories).

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    Boidiva02
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    For Drama Series I would vote for Mr. Robot simply because of all the nominees it seems like the most forward thinking series and is imho the most “current” in terms of subject matter. The first season really was a marvel and delivered something fairly unique. GOT is obviously a good show, but I think it gets bogged down by its own format. It gets too absurd to follow. Mr. Robot at least managed to deliver a season that while at times frustrating gave us something totally new and unique.

    and I’m going to suggest that if you can’t get behind John Oliver than you give your vote to Bill Maher in Variety-Talk. IMHO, Bill Maher has one of the best produced shows on TV and is an exceptional choice, although Oliver is my first choice and I think very underrated.

    As for Variety-Sketch I’d go with Key & Peele. It is the last chance you’ll have to vote for them and they get my vote as this last season of Inside Amy Schumer was pretty terrible.

    As for Variety Special, I think the winner here should be Amy Schumer: Live At The Apollo. It really is my default pick because I wouldn’t award her anything for this last season of “Inside Amy Schumer” which was a big letdown from the season prior. It is the only place I can award her anything so that is why she is my pick here. But it is also a very good stand-up special. I think however, Lemonade is going to win here.

    And lastly for Special Class Program, I’d go with either Grease Live, because of how flawlessly they pulled off the technical portions of that show or the Golden Globes for producing an entertaining and straight to the point award show. Unlike say The Emmy’s or Oscars, which get bogged down with too many musical performers and tribute and clip packages, the Globes remains quick and to the point at giving out awards.

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