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  • dsps84
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    #357054

    With seven losses each, these are Emmys’ biggest losers in comedy for one performance, and in Curb’s case, one series. 

    How do we feel about this group? Did some deserve their Emmy fate? What year was their best shot in hindsight? 

    Vote for the biggest robbery.

    *I didn’t include Matt LeBlanc because his losses come from two different characters.  

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    nahborghi
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    Jason Alexander and Jane Kaczmarek’s losses hurt a lot. No Emmy for George Constanza is a bigger tragedy, though.

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    Madson Melo
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    #357057

    Kaczmarek

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    rstang00
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    It was between Goodman, Boyle, and Curb for me but had to go with Goodman. His work on Roseanne is epic and should have never gone Emmyless.

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    Emmys2011
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    The case with Jason Alexander infuriates me so much. Michael Richards was great, that´s for sure, but his 3 emmys should be Alexander´s. Not that he didn´t deserve an emmy, but it is just insulting to give him 3 wins and zero to the man who, along with Dreyfus, kept stealing the show episode after episode. His performance and character are much more representative of what made Seinfeld and his characters great than Kramer ever was.

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    Boidiva02
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    Julia Duffy. That woman was beyond brillant on Newhart and her losses are to me a tragedy.

    I would also mention, Faith Ford from Murphy Brown who has five losses in the Supporting Actress category with consecutive nominations from 1989-1992 and another nomination in 1994.  

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    jane

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    Gone_Guy
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    It bothers me greatly that John Goodman went 0/8 for “Roseanne” and Steve Carrell went 0/6 for “The Office.” These are Emmy-worthy roles. It’s further frustrating when I see that Kelsey Grammar won five, Tony Shalhoub won three, and Jim Parsons has won four. The ones who did get a bone tossed at them in between those years is also perplexing, particularly Craig T. Nelson for “Coach” and Ricky Gervais for “Extras.” Good actors and performances, but Emmy worthy? I don’t know… I would have also tossed a win to Paul Reiser for “Mad About You.” He and Helen Hunt played off of each other nicely.

    Lead Actress was on such a wonderful roll with honoring new blood each year. Patricia Heaton’s first win is one of my very favorite Emmy wins ever because I love “Bad Moon Rising.” But her second win should have gone to Jane Kaczmarek. I’m fine with everyone having a turn, but I would have given the win to Lisa Kudrow over JLD (“…Christine”) in 06; Tina Fey over America Ferrera (*IF* Fey had submitted “The C Word.” One she didn’t submit that, it was sealed for Ferrera) in 07; JLD or over Tina Fey (the former had her series-best performance with “One and a Half Men,: the latter had the much better series), and a special shout-out to Christina Applegate with her great ep, in 08; either Amy Poehler or Martha Plimpton over Melissa McCarthy in 11; definitely Laura Dern over JLD’s 2nd win in 12; and – believe it or not – Melissa McCarthy over JLD’s 3rd win (series-best submission for McCarthy) last year. Thankfully, most of the great performances have been tossed a bone. Two I would say who were overlooked were Calista Flockhart (“Ally McBeal”) and Mary-Louise Parker (“Weeds”), but both of their shows went off the rails in quality. I also wish Emmy voters had embraced “Designing Women” the way they did “The Golden Girls” (it would have been at Candice Bergen’s expense, I guess). And of course Kaczmarek should have won in 01.

    Supporting Actor: It bothers me that Jon Cryer won over Rainn Wilson and especial Neil Patrick Harris. I’m fine with Cryer’s later win in Lead because he not only had the best submission, but was in the correct category. I wish Peter Boyle had been given one of Brad Garrett’s Emmys, but in all honesty, neither role had much depth. It’s too bad that Emmy voters spent four years giving wins to “Modern Family” yet it was 2 apiece for Eric Stonestreet and Ty Burrell. I would have liked a scenario similar to “The West Wing” and “The Golden Girls” where each contender got at least one. But the biggest head-scratcher of all is that Jason Alexander never won for “Seinfeld.” As epic of a mistake as Carrell and Goodman in Lead.

    Supporting Actress: Sad day that Kim Cattrall and Kristin Davis went Emmyless for “Sex and the City,” at the expense of Doris Roberts winning four. Again, this ensemble was deserving of one Emmy each. I know Julie Bowen is a much stronger actress than Sofia Vergara but I wish Vergara had one of Bowen’s Emmys. Jane Krakowski should have won for “30 Rock,” but I’m fine with Merritt Wever having an Emmy. I wish Vanessa Williams (“Ugly Betty”) and Elizabeth Perkins (“Weeds”) could have nabbed Emmy gold, but Kristin Chenoweth winning for “Pushing Daisies” makes me smile. I’m all about the wealth being spread, but how did Estelle Getty (“The Golden Girls”) only win once? Shame. At least she won though. To repeat myself, the only iconic roles (a la Goodman, Carrell, Alexander) that went Emmyless were Cattrall and Davis. It would have been awesome to see a group pic of SJP, Cynthia Nixon, Cattrall, and Davis holding an Emmy on the set of SATC.  

    As for the poll, I voted for John Goodman. On that list, he seems like the obvious choice.  

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    Tavish
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    Hal Linden lost to: Jack Albertson, Carroll O’Connor (3), Richard Mulligan, Judd Hirsch, Alan Alda.

    I think, Hal Linden mostly had a bad luck, he was competing with guys from more popular shows (as “All in the Family”, “M*A*S*H”, “Soap”, “Taxi”). Jack Albertson was a legendary actor, an Oscar winner. Funny, but after failing on the Primetime Emmy Awards Linden won three Daytime Emmy Awards, so his bad luck is over.

    John Goodman lost to: Richard Mulligan, Ted Danson (2), Bert Reynolds, C.T. Nelson, Kelsey Grammer (2).

    Obviously, he couldn’t overcome leading stars of “Cheers” and “Frasier”, they was too popular. Bert Reynolds is a movie star and in those time it was good factor for the win. I don’t know, how Nelson won for the “Coach”, but “Roseanne”, besides Barr and Metcalf’s wins, hadn’t good record with the Emmys. Goodman finally won Emmy after his ninth nomination for the guest role in the “Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip”.

    Jane Kaczmarek lost to: Patricia Heaton (2), Jennifer Aniston, Debra Messing, Sarah Jessica Parker, Felicity Huffman, Julia Louis-Dreyfus.

    I truly think that Heaton and Messing are very deserved winners. JLD, as we know, beloved and respected actress in the TV industry. Aniston and Parker were from such popular shows, that voters couldn’t resist them. And Huffman was lucky to have a three episodes instead one for the win. I mean, when there was a real chance for Kaczmarek to win? She just couldn’t win, that’s it.

    Jason Alexander lost to: Michael Jeter, Michael Richards (3), David Hyde Pierce (2), Rip Torn.

    I can understand why Richards won three times over Alexander, voters love an eccentric characters; David Hyde Pierce also benefited from this. Torn was an overdue winner. I didn’t see “Evening Shade”, but I know that Michael Jeter was a very good actor (I saw television episodes and movies with his participation), so he deserved his single Emmy for the entire television career. Sure, Alexander was great in the “Seinfeld” and deserved one Emmy also. But you know, he has a SAG win, that nice. 

    Peter Boyle lost to: David Hyde Pierce (2), Sean Hayes, Peter MacNicol, Brad Garrett (3).

    Well, Brad Garrett was magnificent in the “Everybody Loves Raymond”. Boyle also sometimes gave a solid performance, but Frank Barone such a boring character that you can’t root for him. And I always defending Doris Roberts because her character wasn’t boring, but truly entertaining. I’m just glad that Boyle won Emmy for guest role in the “The X-Files”, Clyde Bruckman is the remarkable and memorable character.

    Julia Duffy lost to: Rhea Perlman (4), Jackee Harry, Estelle Getty, Bebe Neuwirth.

    I like Rhea Perlman, she was wonderful in the “Cheers”, but four wins is too much. And the fact that “Newhart” won nothing (8 years – 25 nominations) is beyond my understanding. That’s where was the right time to reward Bob Newhart. But no, they waited decades before gave him an award for the guest role (same case as with John Goodman). They have no excuses.

    I voted for Julia Duffy.

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    Tonbone
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    I know it’s premature but Amy Poehler should be on this list for her 10+ nominations without a win. You may disagree how legandary or iconic her character and show but nonetheless someone who really should have won lead actress 3 times. 

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    Supporting Actress Comedy was not too kind to the spoiled/whiney diva blondes were they?  Duffy 0 for 7, Faith Ford 0 for 5, Kim Cattrall 0 for 5, Jane Krakowski soon to be 0 for 5.  Those 4 along with Marla Gibbs were the biggest crimes of that category.

    Jason Alexander not winning is the biggest crime though.

    I really felt Kazcmarek was in the wrong category.  She always felt supporting.  Maybe because she was usually awful in tape selection.

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    How is Samantha Jones spoiled and whiny?
    I can see an argument being made about the lead of that show way before her. 

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    Tonbone
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    Supporting Actress Comedy was not too kind to the spoiled/whiney diva blondes were they?  Duffy 0 for 7, Faith Ford 0 for 5, Kim Cattrall 0 for 5, Jane Krakowski soon to be 0 for 5.  Those 4 along with Marla Gibbs were the biggest crimes of that category.

    Jason Alexander not winning is the biggest crime though.

    I really felt Kazcmarek was in the wrong category.  She always felt supporting.  Maybe because she was usually awful in tape selection.

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    Tonbone
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    That is such an amazing argument. I never thought about that before but Jane Kaczmarek did belong in SUPPORTING the show was called “MALCOLM in the Middle” therefore wasn’t Malcolm the only lead character if Kaczmarek was lead then how the actor who played her husband Bryan Cranston supporting?? Him and Jane had about equal screentime, I can’t believe no one said they both should have been lead before. Who knows if she could have won against Doris Roberts. 

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    Gone_Guy
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    That is such an amazing argument. I never thought about that before but Jane Kaczmarek did belong in SUPPORTING the show was called “MALCOLM in the Middle” therefore wasn’t Malcolm the only lead character if Kaczmarek was lead then how the actor who played her husband Bryan Cranston supporting?? Him and Jane had about equal screentime, I can’t believe no one said they both should have been lead before. Who knows if she could have won against Doris Roberts. 

    The Supporting Actress winners in those years were…
    – 2000: Megan Mullally, Will & Grace
    – 2001: Doris Roberts, Everybody Loves Raymond
    – 2002: Doris Roberts, Everybody Loves Raymond
    – 2003: Doris Roberts, Everybody Loves Raymond
    – 2004: Cynthia Nixon, Sex and the City
    – 2005: Doris Roberts, Everybody Loves Raymond
    – 2006: Megan Mullally, Will & Grace

    I think if Kaczmarek would have gone Supporting, she would have likely won in 2001 over Doris Roberts’ first win. Malcolm in the Middle won Writing and Directing in both 2000 and 2001. But it had a bigger wave of support in 2001, with its Series nomination. Plus, Will & Grace came on strong, taking Series, Supporting Actor, and Supporting Actress. I just don’t think Kaczmarek could have topped Mullally that year. I would have had no problem with Kaczmarek in Supporting; she worked in either category. But 2001 remains her best submission (whether it be in Supporting or where she was, in Lead), plus it would have been extra sweet to see her win the same year as then-husband, Bradley Whitford, in Supporting Actor Drama for The West Wing.

    With all of these series revivals (Arrested Development, The Comeback, Girl Meets World, and now Fuller House and Coach), maybe there will be a spinoff? I don’t know… Malcolm Still in the Middle? Give Jane a plum guest role and give her the win. 

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