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  • Gone_Guy
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    #353965

    I have never watched a single episode of Episodes. After today’s nominatioins, however, I have decided to binge this entire series within the year. 

    It has garnered only 10 Emmy nominations in its run, yet… These are some pretty major categories.

    2011
    – Comedy Lead Actor: Matt LeBlanc (lost to Jim Parsons, The Big Bang Theory, who was winning his consecutive second)
    – Comedy Writing: David Crane and Jeffrey Klarik, “Episode Seven” (lost to Steven Levitan & Jeffrey Richmond, Modern Family for “Caught in the Act”)
    – Original Main Title Theme Music, Mark Thomas (lost to Trevor Morris, The Borgias)

    2012 – Ineligible

    2013 
    – Comedy Lead Actor: Matt LeBlanc (lost to Jim Parsons, The Big Bang Theory, who won his third)
    – Comedy Writing: David Crane and Jeffrey Klarik, “Episode 209” (lost to Tina Fey and Tracy Wigfield, 30 Rock for “Last Lunch”)

    2014
    – Comedy Lead Actor: Matt LeBlanc (lost to Jim Parsons, The Big Bang Theory, who won his fourth)
    – Comedy Writing: David Crane and Jeffrey Klarik, “Episode 305” (lost to Louis C.K., Louie for “So Did the Fat Lady”)
    – Comedy Directing: Iain B. MacDonald, “Episode 309” (lost to Gail Mancuso, Modern Family for “Vegas”)

    2015
    – Comedy Lead Actor: Matt LeBlanc
    – Comedy Writing: David Crane and Jeffrey Klarik, “Episode 409”

    Questions this raises:

    – How does Matt LeBlanc keep getting nominated?
    – Is the Writing so great that it warrants four consecutive nominations?
    – How in the world has it not been nominated for Comedy Series after getting recognized every single year of its eligibility for its leading man and writing.
    – Is it mere category filler or is it a threat to win either this year? Has it ever been a threat to win?
    – Has there ever been a series to get major love so frequently and so far into a run of a series yet still not get nominated for Comedy Series? The one that immediately comes to mind is Roseanne, but even it didn’t have a single nomination in Writing or Directing.

    ^These are all asked with sincerity because I’ve never watched the series. That will change when I get bigger Emmy contenders binged. This is one show I will have watched strictly because of its Emmy love. So I hope it’s good.

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    #353967

    Pictures.  In flagrante delicto, perhaps, of multiple Emmy voters?? Frown

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    jf123
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    #353968

    Maybe voters think that it is to small of a show to be a series nominee. I understand the LeBlanc nominations because he is playing a fictionalized version of himself (an actor) so I can easily understand why he gets nominated (he is also pretty good too). I think it gets writing because the writing branch loves very meta stuff and doesn’t really like traditional comedies (never nominated TBBT, only recognized MF since 2011, nominated Community, The Americans, and The Wire when they were almost universally ignored by the other branches)

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    BenitoDelicias
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    Well the first thing you should do is actually watch the show. Otherwise how could you understand? Specially the writing nominations which have all been deserved. 

    I’ve been defending this show for a while and have no problem doing it yet again. Is it a great show, worthy of a Series nod? No, as a fan, I can say that without any problem, and I’m guessing that voters know this too, so there’s your answer for no Seried nod. The show has some flaws, some that haven’t been corrected at all in 4 seasons. It’s not as funny or as well produced as other shows, even Modern Family, tiresome as it is, deserves a spot over Episodes. I wouldn’t even nominate it for the sake of refreshing the category. But I do love it and have seen some pretty funny, well done, perfectly written things on the show.

    Matt LeBlanc? To me he’s been total filler at times. This category is a mess without that many real competitors that are actually on Emmy’s radar. Don Cheadle is still here, William H Macy’s name is still strong enough for this, Jim Parsons keeps winning. How can anyone not asume right away (and be somewhat correct) that LeBlanc is filler? Or even if he’s not filler (he does have some moments), the category is empty enough for Showtime to keep pulling through for him.

    The writing nods? That’s where everybody is wrong. The episodes that have been submitted and nominated have been great. Specially the first two seasons. Those two fights were hilarious and very well done. The first one was a worthy winner, with a nomination for Stephen Mangan and that tape as a (winning) submission also worthy. The writing does have some issues, specially with LeBlanc’s “character”, but in the end, it’s what’s being submitted that counts, and they’ve done a great job with that. And like another poster said, if there’s a (top) branch that has been opened enough over the years, it’s the writers.

    In general the show has also deserved nods for Mangan, Kathleen Rose Perkins this season, and finally with the financial storyline Matt LeBlanc actually isn’t filler this year, other years he might have been, but this year he’s right there in the “deserving” side of the list.

    Don’t forget that the show is also a Hollywood show, and it’s been mentioned quite enough that this helps with these awards because voters might feel identified and continue to look out for the show even when it was gone for so long between seasons 2 and 3. That one was really shocking to me, that they remembered, but hey, if it’s on the ballot, how difficult can it be to notice it and remember that show you apparently liked so much.

    If the show were really popular we would be seeing it elsewhere regardless of quality as it usually happens, but clearly it isn’t, it’s all been based on LeBlanc’s category and on point, well done submissions. 

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    Icky
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    #353970

    Showtime’s great campaigning, a show about the industry, Matt LeBlanc’s Emmy history, they usually produce 1-2 really good episodes a season and that’s the installment that gets into writing

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    Denis
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    #353971

    Because it is that good and that deserving, Le Blanc is great, the writing is spectacular (not in all episodes I assume, therefor it’s no nominations in comedy series) . 

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    I posted this earlier, but I believe it’s the only show with 3+ writing noms but no Series nom.

    There are 2 other Comedies with 4+ writing noms that lack a Series Win, fellow male cablers Larry and Louie. 

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    Denis
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    I think the point of the thread was that it never had a “Comedy Series” nod.

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    i was pointing out how much of an abberant anomaly it is. 

    and op asked: Has there ever been a series to get major love so frequently and so far into a run of a series yet still not get nominated for Comedy Series?  

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