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  • Tom O’Neil
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    We fumed about homophobia in Hollywood in the aftermath of those shocking snubs of “The Normal Heart” at the Emmys. Many people pooh-poohed the charge, but no more. Finally, here is the PROOF of what is already obvious: hypocritical Hollywood is not as gay-friendly as it pretends:

    http://deadline.com/2014/09/hollywood-gay-friendly-study-ucla-lgbt-performers-832504/

     

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    TomHardys
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    I think what most people were trying to say was that Bomer’s snub was not exclusively related to homophobic reasons (I was one of the users who said that homophobia played an important but not determinant factor). I don’t think anyone said that Hollywood wasn’t homophobic. It is, always was and for now I think it always will be. Maybe that will change but I very much doubt it for the time being.

    However I don’t think you can just dismiss Martin Freeman’s victory because a gay actor was snubbed. Sure I think Freeman should’ve won in Lead and Bomer in Supporting. Those were my personal preferences and ultimately my objective predictions. I was wrong and they ended up rewarding The Lizard in Lead and Freeman in Supporting (he benefitted from being a double-nominee). But c’mon guys. The Normal Heart won the big prize of its category. Can’t we just accept that maaaaaaaaybe they really wanted to reward Sherlock? 
     

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    24Emmy
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    I was wrong and they ended up rewarding The Lizard in Lead and Freeman in Supporting (he benefitted from being a double-nominee). 

     

    If Sherlock Holmes is a lizard what is Dr. Watson?

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    Sasha
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    Look at those comments there! They’re absolutely disgusting. 

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    Tom O’Neil
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    The “Normal Heart’s” and Larry Kramer’s loss of the screenplay Emmy to a bad eppy of the usually great “Sherlock” is a travesty that must be decried across the universe.

    Bomer’s loss to ANYBODY is unforgivable. Admit it. He lost because str8, idiotic voters freaked out when they saw him butt naked and having lusty sex.

    Losses by Mark Ruffalo and Julia Roberts must be regarded as suspicious when weighed against all of the other TNH losses

    So sad that LGBT actors portraying LGBT characters in serious pain (Jesse Tyler Ferguson) keep losing to str8 actors in silly drag (Ty Burrell) or playing gay as flamboyant stereotype (Eric Stonestreet) in the past. Laverne Cox gave the rich, raw, emotional performance in the guest race, but lost to brief comic vamping of Crazy Eyes. That’s the way voters want their LGBT roles — as something to laugh at.

     

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    24Emmy
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    Laverne Cox gave the rich, raw, emotional performance in the guest race, but lost to brief comic vamping of Crazy Eyes.

     

    She wasn’t funny though. The voters went with something funny for a comedy award. Go figure.

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    The “Normal Heart’s” and Larry Kramer’s loss of the screenplay Emmy to a bad eppy of the usually great “Sherlock” is a travesty that must be decried across the universe.

    Bomer’s loss to ANYBODY is unforgivable. Admit it. He lost because str8, idiotic voters freaked out when they saw him butt naked and having lusty sex.

    Losses by Mark Ruffalo and Julia Roberts must be regarded as suspicious when weighed against all of the other TNH losses

    So sad that LGBT actors portraying LGBT characters in serious pain (Jesse Tyler Ferguson) keep losing to str8 actors in silly drag (Ty Burrell) or playing gay as flamboyant stereotype (Eric Stonestreet) in the past. Laverne Cox gave the rich, raw, emotional performance in the guest race, but lost to brief comic vamping of Crazy Eyes. That’s the way voters want their LGBT roles — as something to laugh at.

     

    I agree that homophobia played a factor, unfortunately. He’s a gay actor playing a gay actor that has gay sex scenes. That HAS to turn some voters off. Which is pathetic and sad. He was the best in his category hands down (in my opinion of course). But not everyone thinks the same way as we do. I can see a good portion of the non-homophobic voters simply liking Freeman’s performance better. Sherlock won in other categories which shows support… The voters responded well to that shitfest (I hated it).

    Don’t get mad at me (please!) because I say this from the bottom of my heart and not with a single shade of sarcasm or evilness: I think you’re probably letting your own hurtful personal experiences get in the way of your always objective analysis. I totally understand that and the entire point you’re trying to make but you can’t expect everybody to agree with you on Matt Bomer when his performance wasn’t even THAT undeniable in the first place. There were a lot of people all over the internet saying that Parsons and Mantello were better. And you’d be amazed by the amount of Freeman supporters out there.

    Please don’t get mad at me. You lived The Normal Heart like no else here lived. You went through that hell and I understand the connection you have with the movie. Ultimately I agree with you re: Bomer but I will not dismiss Freeman’s victory because of it. And that’s exactly what is happening. It feels like we’re taking credit away from Martin.

    And 24Emmy… I will never like Benedict Cumberbatch. It’s something that is older than my presence in this forum. I think you’ll be exhausted to quote or mention me everytime I express my profound dislike for him in these boards so don’t bother. 

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    TomHardys
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    I’m feeling like such an asshole. Damn.

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    Tonbone
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    I did think Cox gave the better performance in “Orange” but how many times has an actress won for a dramatic performance in this category?

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    the comments make me wanna hang myself.

    that’s my face everytime she attempts to act

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    Laactingnyc
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    the comments make me wanna hang myself.

    [quote=”Eeeekk”]

    that’s my face everytime she attempts to act[/quote]

    Say something about her again and i’ll come after you…….    -_-

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    The Normal Heart was bad.  All it proves is that making a preachy movie about a touchy topic still needs to be good in order to garner award sympathy.

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    Tom O’Neil
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    I agree that homophobia played a factor, unfortunately.

    Don’t get mad at me (please!) because I say this from the bottom of my heart and not with a single shade of sarcasm or evilness: I think you’re probably letting your own hurtful personal experiences get in the way of your always objective analysis…. You lived The Normal Heart like no else here lived. You went through that hell and I understand the connection you have with the movie. Ultimately I agree with you re: Bomer

    Yes, I’m especially riled up about this because I’m so emotionally invested in that superb film. True. But you also agree with the charge I’m making. Thanks for your honesty — and clarity of vision.

    Obviously, this new study underscores our point, too. Common sense agrees with us as well.

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    Tom O’Neil
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    The Normal Heart was bad.  All it proves is that making a preachy movie about a touchy topic still needs to be good in order to garner award sympathy.

    It’s got 85 score at Metacritic.

    LA Times and TV Guide have it 100% score. 90% score from Hollywood Reporter.

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