December 18, 2011 at 9:12 am #234622
I am watching these two episodes and i want to hear what anybody else has to say. First is the Pilot for House of Lies starring Academy Award nominee Don Cheadle, Kristen Bell and Emmy winner Ben Schwartz. Then there is the second season premire of Shameless starring Academy Award nominee William H. Macy and Golden Globe nominee Emmy Rossum. Showtime always has leaked episodes so it not a suprise.December 18, 2011 at 9:59 am #234624
Where can I find these? I’m interested in seeing the House of Lies Pilot.December 18, 2011 at 10:50 am #234625
Here are ome links:December 18, 2011 at 11:27 am #234626
What is wrong with Showtime?
No other network has this problem.
Pilots from other networks leak, but that peaked in 2008; it is a rarity for a Showtime season premiere (and often the episode after it) not to leak.
Even shows like Dexter have stuff leaked and it is in its sixth season!
The worst one is probably Californication, which has been known to keep leaking over the course of the season.December 18, 2011 at 11:33 am #234627
You realizes that Showtime does this on purpose?
They reach only about 15 million subscribers, and only roughly 4 million of the said subscribers are even aware that Showtime actualy makes original series. Of those 4 million, only a little less than 2 million (on average; Dexter sometimes passes 2 million) actually watch said shows.
They leak purpously for publicity. And Jenji Kohan (Weeds creator) has said that she is okay with it.December 18, 2011 at 11:42 am #234628
Bored to Death leaked all season long.December 18, 2011 at 12:19 pm #234629
You realizes that Showtime does this on purpose? They reach only about 15 million subscribers, and only roughly 4 million of the said subscribers are even aware that Showtime actualy makes original series. Of those 4 million, only a little less than 2 million (on average; Dexter sometimes passes 2 million) actually watch said shows. They leak purpously for publicity. And Jenji Kohan (Weeds creator) has said that she is okay with it.
While this is definitely possible and maybe probable actually, this has not actually been confirmed and it is worth noting that episodes have leaked prior to completion of post-production. Kohan likes that people are watching her show, but has not spoken to whether Showtime is the one doing it.December 18, 2011 at 12:39 pm #234630
That is one major coincedence then.
Also, the premeire of Shameless was dreadful. I was just waiting for it to end. I don’t know if I’ll continue. But Emmy Rossum naked does make it easier.December 18, 2011 at 2:18 pm #234631
Just started watching the pilot for “House Of Lies”. Man, these first 5 minutes so far are TERRIBLE. Stupid, clumsy expositional dialogue and some cheesy original score (thankfully, soon replaced by Beastie Boys). But at least there’s Don Cheadle’s ass. A nice ass. Let’s hope for more than that…
EDIT: Oh, and they break the wall 2 times in five minutes. For more exposition, and Cheadle acting smug. Didn’t like the way they use it so far.December 18, 2011 at 2:57 pm #234632
Beastie Boys blow.December 18, 2011 at 3:01 pm #234633
Finished watching it. And yeah, it’s bad. The plot is just so contrived, the dialogue is too expositional and tries too hard to be funny and/or insightful, the original score sounds like it came from a porn movie, and none of the performances were interesting. The stuff with his effeminate son auditioning for “Grease” could work with better writing, but here it’s just an excuse for a bit of quirk. And the whole sequence in the restaurant just awful.
Unless it improves drastically in the following episodes, I just don’t see critics or the Emmys giving this any kind of attention.December 18, 2011 at 3:35 pm #234634
Just finished House of Lies. One of the worst pay cable pilots I’ve ever seen, though not nearly as terrible as Enlightened. Don Cheadle will get nominated, but expect nothing else from Kristen Bell, Jean-Ralphio or anybody else in this cast.December 18, 2011 at 3:46 pm #234635
Well, if the show is good for nothing else, at least it’ll be good for annoying my mom with it’s portrayal of management consultants (my mom is a management consultant).December 18, 2011 at 4:01 pm #234636
Well, if the show is good for nothing else, at least it’ll be good for annoying my mom with it’s portrayal of management consultants (my mom is a management consultant).
Oh, she’ll be extremely annoyed! I’m not familiar with this line of work, but even I could tell they way they showed was unrealistic and so silly.
And I don’t think Cheadle will be nominated, even though he’s a past Oscar nominee. This pilot just screams flop, and there’s nothing particularly interesting about his character or his performance. Like I said in a earlier post, this will have to be leaps and bounds better than the pilot to get any kind of attention.December 19, 2011 at 10:31 am #234637
Yeah, that was not good.
The whole style was just so overdone and heavy-handed, the fourth-wall breaking was unnecessary and badly done, it just didn’t work. I do feel like Cheadle’s performance could work with much, much better writing. Bell wasn’t really given much to do.