June 16, 2013 at 7:40 pm #281506
In the Comedy Category discussion thread, a few posts have come up about iconic characters that are female in comedy series’.
Which female comedy characters do you think are iconic?
Remember that iconic does not necessarily mean “important” or “historical” per se. For example, Mary Richards (while I do think she is iconic) is not iconic because she was the first female character on a workplace comedy to hold a position of high power in said workplace. That made her historically important, but not iconic. She was iconic because of her personality, drive, catchy lines and relevance to pop culture at the time. Also remember that an iconic characters do not have to be from acclaimed shows. They can also appear on lower-quality shows. They are also not limited to live action. Iconic female characters can also be animated or even puppets/muppets if you wish.
Discuss.June 16, 2013 at 7:54 pm #281508
Mary’s position in the workplace at the time plays a huge part in her icon status. I disagree that something historically important like that won’t be part of the “iconic” description.
I do agree that they can also appear on lower quality shows like Fran Fine on The Nanny. Extremely iconic character, not just in the US by the way, that came from a questionable sitcom that had plenty of big laugh out loud perfect moments, but was never the perfect show. And even lesser show was Married with Children, Peggy Bundy is a perfectly iconic character.June 16, 2013 at 7:58 pm #281509
I don’t think there is anyone who tops Carrie Bradshaw, Elaine Benes, and Dorothy Petrillo.June 16, 2013 at 8:01 pm #281510
Who is Dorothy Petrillo?June 16, 2013 at 8:03 pm #281511
I think he meant Dorthy Zbornak from Golden GirlsJune 16, 2013 at 8:08 pm #281512
Liz LemonJune 16, 2013 at 8:15 pm #281513
Marie Barone would have to be included, I think.
Maude Findlay (Maude)
Emily Hartley(?) (The Bob Newhart Show) I’ve never seen it.)
Phyllis Lindstrom (The Mary Tyler Moore Show/Phyllis)June 16, 2013 at 8:21 pm #281514
Lucille Ball, I Love Lucy
Carol Burnett, The Carol Burnett Show
Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Elaine, Seinfeld — how she didn’t win more Emmys still baffles me. By far the best comedic actor of the core four on the show (with the most range).June 16, 2013 at 8:37 pm #281515
Lucy Ricardo/Lucille Ball
Liz Lemon/Tina Fey
Murphy Brown/Candice Bergen
The Entire cast of The Golden Girls
Elanie Benes/Julia Louis-Dreyfuss
Kate & Allie/Susan St. James and Jane Curtain
Rosenne Conner/Roseanne Barr (Arnold)
Grace Adler/Debra Messing
Karen Walker/Megan MullalyJune 16, 2013 at 8:38 pm #281516
I love you for this! How about Alice Kramden, though? She needs some love, too.June 16, 2013 at 8:42 pm #281517
Elaine Benes, Karen Walker, Samantha Jones, Diane Chambers, Liz Lemon, Lucy Ricardo, Phoebe BuffayJune 16, 2013 at 8:43 pm #281518
How iconic is Kate and Allie, by the way? I imagine that a program focusing on two independent, female protagonists was something that seemed unique in the 1980s, and it certainly did well commercially and critically, but do people speak of it much, anymore?June 16, 2013 at 8:47 pm #281519
How iconic is Kate and Allie, by the way? I imagine that a program focusing on two independent, female protagonists was something that seemed unique in the 1980s, and it certainly did well commercially and critically, but do people speak of it much, anymore?
That’s a very good question. I included it simply because in terms of iconic characters, Kate & Allie was a first in many ways, it was at the time ground-breaking, a series with two female leads playing divorced mothers, raising kids w/out husbands. the Emmy-wins of Jane Curtain and the nominations of St. James also help cement it as an iconic series.
But to your point, I’m not sure if it’s still talked about much at all. I certianly consider both those character Iconic, if for no reason other than it paved the way for other shows, by proving a show about women could do commerically well and be critically acclaimed.June 16, 2013 at 8:49 pm #281520
From the 00s, definitely Elizabeth Miervaldis Lemon!