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  • AMG
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    John Landgraf, CEO of FX, has suggested that due to the sheer number of programmes out there, viewers are being distracted by good TV shows, and are ignoring the truly great ones.

    He may have a point. Some of the most acclaimed shows of the last year alone, such as Transparent and The Americans, have limited viewer numbers. And while Transparent is on a streaming service, that hasn’t stopped shows like Orange Is The New Black becoming a cultural phenomenon – and the issue-led story of Transparent is incredibly topical too with the likes of Caitlyn Jenner in the public eye. The Americans has been snubbed continually by the Emmys too, despite Critics Awards galore. In the show’s place, less well received drama’s have been recognised.

    Game of Thrones (when it was airing, many were saying it wasn’t great – now they’re saying it’s winning Drama Series…………really?). Downton Abbey (good, but is it great?). House of Cards (much more of a mixed reception to S3 than previous ones), have all returned to the race once again. 

    So, is Landgraf right? Are the good TV programmes on our screens taking away viewers, and awards, from GREAT shows? 
     

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    Denis
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    #357497

    yes.

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    eastwest
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    #357498

    “I don’t understand the question.” But in all seriousness, John John neeeds to quit speaking out the side of his neck. This is another round about way of him whining about the shows on his network.

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    Well it’s a good thing your main hit now, American Horror Story, isn’t even good then, CEO.

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    Gone_Guy
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    I do think there has been a cultural-phenomenon void left by Breaking Bad, something that not even its spin-off, Better Call Saul, could fill in its first season. I think the closest the void came to being filled was by Empire, but I watched the entire first season and it doesn’t even come close to matching the quality of Breaking Bad (beyond the career-best performance by the delightful Taraji P. Henson). 

    The only one right now that’s on par with what Breaking Bad was is the other AMC tentpole, The Walking Dead

    There are some great series, however, that match the quality of Breaking Bad, yet just haven’t been latched onto by viewers and/or awards outlets. 

    DRAMAS
    The Americans
    Bates Motel
    – The Leftovers
    – Rectify

    COMEDIES
    Broad City
    The Comeback
    – Fresh Off the Boat
    – The Goldbergs
    – The Middle
    – The Mindy Project

    MAINTAINED QUALITY ‘TIL THE END
    Damages
    Friday Night Lights
    – Justified 
    – Parenthood
    Sons of Anarchy

    RIDICULOUSLY CANCELLED
    Enlightened
    – Hannibal
    Happy Endings 
    In Treatment
    Looking
    – Pushing Daisies
    – Raising Hope
    Southland
    – United States of Tara

    All of these fit the mold for the question the OP asks in his subject, e.g….

    – Fresh Off the Boat, The Goldbergs, and The MIddle > Modern Family, The Big Bang Theory, Mom (but now Veep is right on par with the former three, and thankfully, it has support from critics AND awards AND viewiers AND its network to go along with its quality).

    – United States of Tara got three seasons, while Weeds got eight seasons and Nurse Jackie got seven seasons.

    HBO keeps Girls around, but axes Enlightened, not even giving Laura Dern and Mike White the third season they had envisioned and pitched when the series got going. At least Looking will get a TV-movie. 

    – Duck Dynasty brings in massive viewers for A&E while Bates Motel is little seen. Maybe all the revenue the former has brought to A&E is why they were wise enough to give the latter five seasons from the beginning. 

    I also wish The Good Wife had been properly recognized with wins in Series and/or Writing and/or Directing as it is the best network drama since Lost and The West Wing. Thankfully, its actors have received recognition (Julianna Margulies x2, Archie Panjabi, Matha Plimpton, Carrie Preston), and CBS has been wise enough to keep it on the air. (Lets just hope season 7 can iron out the detour in quality and plot of season 6).  

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    Rooney Moore
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    Game of Thrones is the best reviewed show amongst this years Drama nominees and second best reviewed Drama behind The Americans. Its funny how you try to make a point about critics choices while ignoring this fact. The majority of people who are claiming GoT sucked this year are butt hurt book purists(which also includes me) and/or feminist casuals and they could be right but if you rely upon critics in your paragraph you can’t despise GoT in the meantime.

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    Game of Thrones is the best reviewed show amongst this years Drama nominees and second best reviewed Drama behind The Americans. Its funny how you try to make a point about critics choices while ignoring this fact. The majority of people who are claiming GoT sucked this year are butt hurt book purists(which also includes me) and/or casual feminists but if you’re mentioning critics in your paragraph you can’t despise GoT.

    Whoa… We’re on the same side here.

    I’m rooting for Game of Thrones to win, actually. I was very annoyed with “Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken” (even more annoyed by its Directing nomination), but not enough to swear the series off like some. I’ve also never read the books, as I’ve discovered that book-readers of this particular series are left frustrated more often than not. 

    I would say that both season 3 of The Americans and season 1 of The Leftovers were better than season 5 of Game of Thrones. (Season two of Rectify and season three of Bates Motel were both good, but the performances by their cast, particularly Young/Spencer and Farmiga/Highmore, are what made it a standout). With The Americans and The Leftovers not here, however, it’s easy for me to root for Game of Thrones

    I’m not ignoring the greatness of Game of Thrones at all. It’s sort of matched with Veep in terms of high-quality + high ratings + network support + awards recognition. 

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    Rooney Moore
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    Oh very sorry for the misunderstanding. I was referring to OP in all of my comment. I didn’t even see your comment until I posted mine. I type so slowly thanks to my phone.

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    Gone_Guy
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    Oh very sorry for the misunderstanding. I was referring to OP in all of my comment.

    Ha my bad. Hug 

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    Landgraf is also still in a fit over critics and audiences not giving a shit about “Tyrant.” #StayPressed

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    AMG
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    Game of Thrones is the best reviewed show amongst this years Drama nominees and second best reviewed Drama behind The Americans. Its funny how you try to make a point about critics choices while ignoring this fact. The majority of people who are claiming GoT sucked this year are butt hurt book purists(which also includes me) and/or casual feminists but if you’re mentioning critics in your paragraph you can’t despise GoT.

    With my Thrones comment, I was referring to the reaction of people on this site, rather than critics. After each episode, I came onto this site, and up until the final three episodes, there was only big praise for one episode. Other than that, people were complaining about the slow pace of the season, as well as the controversy some scenes caused due to obvious reasons.

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    Gone_Guy
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    Landgraf is also still in a fit over critics and audiences not giving a shit about “Tyrant.” #StayPressed

    I’ve never seen it, not even the pilot. (I did watch the opening sequence since it’s Emmy nominated, haha.) Can anyone vouch for it? Is it worth giving a shot? I may watch the pilot.  

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    Veep has “high ratings” and lots of support from “viewers” via its sub-1 million average live audience? Oh ok.
    Not even gonna comment on anyone claiming it’s equivalent to GoT in that respect. 

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    helv606
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    Landgraf is also still in a fit over critics and audiences not giving a shit about “Tyrant.” #StayPressed

    While I might agree with some of what Landgraf said, I think it is fair to suggest audiences not giving Tyrant a second chance this season is a big factor in why he said what he did.

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    Denis
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    [quote=”Atypical”]

    Landgraf is also still in a fit over critics and audiences not giving a shit about “Tyrant.” #StayPressed

    I’ve never seen it, not even the pilot. (I did watch the opening sequence since it’s Emmy nominated, haha.) Can anyone vouch for it? Is it worth giving a shot? I may watch the pilot.  
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    After taking a quick look on the internet,  Howard Gordon, Gideon Raff, being Gordon and Raff emmy winners for the homeland pilot, Craig Wright emmy nominee for writing “Twilight” from “Six Feet Under” are the creators, however, they didn’t write a single episode for the show so far, David Yates directed one episode, Jeremy Podeswa directed another episode, that is about it .

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