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  • montana82
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    I interacted with an Emmy voter on twitter last night.  He said he just voted in ALL of the acting categories.  He did not watch the submitted tapes.  He voted for his favorites and the shows he likes.

    As RileyChow posted, the Emmy voting webpage actually lets you vote and skip right over the screen with the submitted episodes.  I saw a screen shot of the voting page itself and it has all your eligible catgories listed on the same screen with a drop down menu to vote on them all.  I believe this will encourage all voters to vote in ALL of the categories they are eligible to vote in.  I can’t imagine an actor voting in like 2 acting categories and leaving the rest blank.  They will want their voice to be heard in all of them.  And you can assume they will not sit there and watch every episode.  Some categories maybe.  But I doubt it.

    So it appears gone are the days of underdog upsets it seems based on submitted work.  That is what is made the Emmys unique and unpredictable.  Frustrating at times too but still.  This new system has the makings of another SAG TV awards.  Populist.  Voting based on popularity of the nominee and show. Buzz and hype.  Emmys voters pretty much watch 6-8 shows in each genre and get most of the nominees from those shows.  I think nominees not in a Best Series could be at a disavantage.

    I just think this is a very bad idea.  I hope I am wrong.  I would love to be.  I am giving the episode some consideration but I am giving equal if not more consideration to a nominees popularity with the Academy, their shows popularity with Emmy voters, and the buzz that nominee has.

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    Well, I think there will be people who don’t vote in all their eligible categories; I mean, for Drama, I don’t have super-strong opinions about the acting races without Mad Men. I’m guessing some voters would have stuff like that.

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    dsps84
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    As long as it helps Jon Hamm win, then I’m all for it.

    Actually, the old system was a disaster. Martin Sheen, Steve Carrell, Hugh Laurie, and Jason Alexander, among others, were all denied Emmys. Jim Parsons won four times. 70-90 voters out of a masssive acting branch should never have been given so much power; the panels were way too small to be truly representative of the Academy’s taste. The new winners will now have the entire actors’ stamp of approval.   

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    Riley
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    I was an extra on the CW show The 100 the last couple of days and as I was getting my face all dirtied up, I got to talking with the makeup artist and it came up that I write about the Emmys.  She asked what I thought about them and I replied that I did not like the new voting system, to which she said, “Thank you.  Isn’t it just ridiculous?”

    I have been gravitating more and more to discounting tapes when making my predictions.  I am this close to going with Ty Burrell.  We really need to look to the Creative Arts this year to see whether Game of Thrones sweeps the craft categories and if Paul Giamatti wins, et cetera.

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    Tucker Dimpy
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    I was an extra on the CW show The 100 the last couple of days and as I was getting my face all dirtied up, I got to talking with the makeup artist and it came up that I write about the Emmys.  She asked what I thought about them and I replied that I did not like the new voting system, to which she said, “Thank you.  Isn’t it just ridiculous?”

    I have been gravitating more and more to discounting tapes when making my predictions.  I am this close to going with Ty Burrell.  We really need to look to the Creative Arts this year to see whether Game of Thrones sweeps the craft categories and if Paul Giamatti wins, et cetera.

    Yup.  I am waiting to see if Elizabeth Banks or Tina Fey win Guest Actress before I panic and discount tapes all together.

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    nahborghi
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    The expansion of votes isn’t even the problem for me. I just think they should make it mandatory to watch the episodes before voters can select their favorites. The tape system is fascinating because of underdogs who have the best material can be awarded, instead of the most popular ones. I’m afraid this isn’t going to happen when everyone can vote for everything in a minute or two.

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    Gabriel
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    I’m not exactly a fan of the change, but the previous system wasn’t exactly good either. When Modern Family and Jim Parsons keep getting rubberstamped each year, something had to change. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

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    ThiagoGarcia
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    I guess when they feel tired of someone winning over and over again based on tapes, they should just not nominate him/her. That’s what happened with Eric Stonestreet, Jon Cryer and Jim Parsons, who all give showy performances. And not ignore the tape system. I still hope they watch them. We don’t deserve another SAG awards. How many Emmys would Alec Baldwin have by now? 

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    Atypical
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    As long as it helps Jon Hamm win, then I’m all for it.

    Actually, the old system was a disaster. Martin Sheen, Steve Carrell, Hugh Laurie, and Jason Alexander, among others, were all denied Emmys. Jim Parsons won four times. 70-90 voters out of a masssive acting branch should never have been given so much power; the panels were way too small to be truly representative of the Academy’s taste. The new winners will now have the entire actors’ stamp of approval.

    This. The tape system doesn’t deserve to be worshipped, and I never liked the idea of scores of voters determining winners (the acting branch alone is in the thousands). They/we lucked up with some winners who would have never won otherwise (the race between Julianna Margulies and Kyra Sedgwick immediately comes to mind; Zeljko Ivanek winning for “Damages” was inspired, since a popular vote would have liked picked any other more known/popular nominee instead of him that year). At the same time, this system is responsible for the most rote and stale winners of any of the television award shows (the Globes have been picking more diverse and interesting winners for years now; they knew when to drop “Modern Family” for example, which is worth something). It’s also been responsible for many deserving nominees losing year after year who would have won if judging by season-long work (Carell, Laurie, Kaczmarek, Cattrall, Sheen, Hamm, Alexander, Poehler, Krakowski, and on and on). Let’s actually see what voters do this year before completely dismissing the popular vote. They might surprise us. We’ll know right away if the winners are worth a damn or not. If they’re not, then by all means, whine away at how bad the rules changes are. I’ll join in with the chorus in that scenario.

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    CanadianFan
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    They need to make it so that a voter can only vote in a specific category if they have watched all of the tapes in the category.

    It wouldn’t be that hard to have a program that unlocks a voting screen once all of the episodes have been cleared. 

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    Teproc
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    It has completely dampened my enthusiasm for the Emmys this year, and I might not follow the races at all next year if the rule stays in place.

    I mean, maybe we’ll see Will Forte win Comedy Actor (or Anthony Anderson) or something else ridiculous that would prove submissions are still being watched, but I highly doubt it.

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    PoweR
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    #358835

    Making tape viewing “mandatory” still won’t stop biased voters, especially in an expanded voting body. I don’t even think basing one tape on who should win was all that great or fair. 

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    They need to make it so that a voter can only vote in a specific category if they have watched all of the tapes in the category.

    It wouldn’t be that hard to have a program that unlocks a voting screen once all of the episodes have been cleared. 

    What if someone’s already seen a bunch of the episodes when they aired and they don’t feel like being forced to rewatch them?

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    eastwest
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    Disaster isn’t the word I would use, but I get the feelings behind the word. This award show has been held up as the gold standard here for years because of the voting pratices. I am thinking it will be like the Oscars with the majority of the acting winners with a combination of buzz and season work being taken into consideration. The surpises could come from the directing and writing categories.

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    GusCruz
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    I’m afraid this will make the Emmys less fun. Consensus will prevail most of the times and the shocking wins will become rare. This used to be the last awards show where “narratives” and “the due factor” didn’t matter.

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