August 17, 2015 at 1:00 pm #358123
Everyone talks about how Jon Hamm has been snubbed year after year, but his co-star Elisabeth Moss has been snubbed for the same length of time, and while I concede that Don Draper is a much more iconic role than Peggy Olson, I personally connected much more to Peggy’s character arc over the course of the series; she was the character (along with Joan) who kept me coming back even when the show had its slow periods. And the way Peggy’s experience parallels Don’s (the rise of women in the workplace set against the decline of a certain masculine ideal) was part of what made Don compelling.
Moss hasn’t accumulated as many nominations, mostly because she isn’t a producer and isn’t BFFs with Tina Fey, but she’s on her seventh nomination, which also includes her amazing work in “Top of the Lake.” Doesn’t she deserve some of the same overdue outrage that Hamm is getting?August 17, 2015 at 1:40 pm #358125
I think the reason why there is no outrage is because she never had what people perceived to be the best tape in the category. Jon Hamm and Christina Hendricks both had submissions with a ton of passionate support.
What does Elisabeth Moss even have this year? Cumulatively, sure, it’s a shame that she hasn’t won, but outside of maybe “The Suitcase”, no one thought she was the best in her category.August 17, 2015 at 1:47 pm #358126
Unlike Hamm, Moss has never had the best tape, has been inconsistently nominated, has gotten nominations when she did not deserve them (in drama lead, not comedy guest) and regularly commits category fraud.August 17, 2015 at 1:50 pm #358127
She is definitely a better actor than her lead. But she’s not a babe so it’s understandable why there hasn’t been a outrage for her and never will.
I also don’t think Oscars have a thing against studs, but they are the only one who are getting media’s attention because of their look.
It’s showbizz after all so we shouldn’t be expecting more than this.
A regular person who doesn’t aware of Goldderby probably doesn’t even know what the tapes are.August 17, 2015 at 2:05 pm #358128
No, Elisabeth Moss isn’t more overdue than Jon Hamm is for an Emmy. Besides maybe “The Suitcase” in a competitive year, I don’t think Moss had an undeniable submission to net her the win. She should have started off in supporting for season 1 (possibly winning there with “Meditations” over a weak winner with Cherry Jones; before anyone asks how I’d accomplish this, take out Hope Davis for Moss in supporting actress and upgrade Rose Byrne to lead actress). Moss could then work her way up to lead later on (though I don’t mind her lead/supporting swapping in general, since I think she belonged in supporting more than lead).August 17, 2015 at 2:07 pm #358129
I too connected much more with Peggy out of all the characters. She is (by far) my favorite character in the show, and her arc throughout the series was more compelling to me than anyone elses. That´s not to say I don´t love the Drape and Hamm, of course.
I personally want to see both leads win an emmy, but if I had to choose, my mind goes to Hamm because he has created an iconic character, but my heart surely goes to Moss. Either way, I agree with the nature of this post. It´s not fair to give all attention to Hamm, when its both of them that made Mad Men great, not just Hamm.
Also, whatever with Moss not having a best of the bunch tape many times. To me, that doesn´t speak of her overdue-ness at all. The way I see it, she is overdue for an emmy for having created an amazing character in the eight year run of this show.August 17, 2015 at 2:36 pm #358130
Moss gave the most consistent performance throughout the series. But with her going lead every season except the third I can’t say she’s overdue.August 17, 2015 at 2:52 pm #358131
I don’t think it was her idea to being submitted as Lead all the time. She is such a down to earth person. Amc’s publicist must have thought this was for the best because of the shows popularity, and they already had a legitimiate shot in the Supporting category with Hendricks throughout the series.August 17, 2015 at 3:02 pm #358132
I recall her explaining why she chose to submit in supporting for the third season.August 17, 2015 at 4:01 pm #358133
Moss has had some incredible moments over the years @ Mad Men. A couple years ago, her work was definitely Emmy worthy. But overdue? No ! Her nomination this year is her Emmy, considering better performances by Julianne Margulies, Vera Farmiga and Ruth Wilson fell by the way side for the sentimental push for the less deserving Moss in her final season on Mad Men.August 17, 2015 at 4:03 pm #358134
She is most certainly overdue. Regardless of what category, she is deserving. She was the backbone of that series, in my opinion, and should have won in the past. Hell, she should have easily won for Top of the Lake. But Laura Linney, who always manages to get her Emmy, except in 2011, crept up in the home stretch to take the win.
With as many surprise wins as we see on Emmy nights, I would not count out Moss until I see that Mad Men is taking nothing home that evening.August 17, 2015 at 4:24 pm #358135
Yeah, category submission matters. She’s only had one competitive lead tape. Seasons four and five are the only seasons where she was close to a lead. Seasons 1-3 Jones was lead. Seasons 6 and 7 everyone but Hamm was supporting. She played my favorite character and gave the most consistent performance on the show, but if you’re not submitting where you ought to…August 17, 2015 at 4:27 pm #358136
She’s “overdue” in that she continuously gave great performances…
…but I don’t think she’s ever had the best tape (from what I’ve seen). Even when she had “The Suitcase,” I thought Margulies (who won) and the long forgotten Enos had better tapes. This year, again, she doesn’t have the best tape but if she wins, I won’t be upset.
I appreciate that she’s gone lead all those years (minus that one year). She certainly would have had a stronger chance if she had stayed in supporting (although Maggie Smith and Anna Gunn were both pretty unstoppable during their years).August 17, 2015 at 7:18 pm #358137
Overdue yes. But not in the same way I’d argue Jon Hamm and Christina Hendricks are. In fact, I’d even consider Christina Hendricks never winning an Emmy the bigger tragedy so far.