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  • Matt Noble
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    Hi, some of you may have noticed I started a weekly webshow for Gold Derby where we look at a different awards contender or category each week.

    The last 2 episodes we looked at Emmy shocks: Tatiana Maslany and Liev Schreiber on the drama side (watch here) and Forte and Anderson bumping Parsons on the comedy side (watch here).

    So how did they do it? and which of those four actors has the best chance of winning? We’ll be doing a slugfest on those questions in the next week and whoever I think posts the ‘BEST’ COMMENT HERE I’LL INVITE TO JOIN US.

    So get in the disussion which of them can win?

    Also any comments on what’s working with the videos, how it can be improved and topics to discuss would be appreciated. Thanks, Matt 

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    Bradley Weir
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    Starting with Tatiana Maslany, her snubs for the previous two years seemed to have garnered the most negative reaction from the general public, so I think more so than ever before, voters felt inclined to give her a nod. I’m sure her massive fan base contributed to voters at least checking out the show and they were obviously impressed by Maslany’s wide range.

    Liev Schreiber did a mightily good job of getting a nomination when nobody gave him a chance. But he is a well respected actor and Jon Voigt’s nomination last year for ‘Ray Donovan’ should have made us know the show was at least on their radar. Looking back on it, its likely Schreiber would have gotten in last year had it not been for True Detective competing in the drama categories. A previous Tony winner and a 3 time Golden Globe nominee, we should have really given him more respect.

    I really enjoyed Will Forte’s performance in the pilot and in being a show with very limited actor numbers, it gives him a chance to make the most of every scene. He’s had an Emmy nomination before (albeit guest actor in a comedy) and has become a popular part of the comedy landscape for a number of years. I also think being a writer of the show helps.

    Anthony Anderson also did very well to get into quite a busy category (especially ahead of Parsons) but I think its one of those nominations that shows the voters are embracing new shows. This is a case of the voters actually watching the show and naturally liking Anderson’s performance.

    In terms of their chances, I see Will Forte as having the best of the four.

    Jeffrey Tambor is brilliant in Transparent, but the question is, will voters find his performance too dramatic for comedy? Sure, he has some very funny scenes, but the subject matter of the show could sway voters into rewarding a more comedic performance, in which case Will Forte is probably next in line for the award. He has a terrific submission, Tambor definitely doesn’t have this in the bag yet.

    For that, I don’t see Anderson coming close to beating either of them. With Jon Hamm overdue and competing against Kevin Spacey and a very strong Kyle Chandler submission, I don’t see Liev Schreiber getting a look in. Although we were overlooking his nomination to begin with.

    Maslany has a chance, but this is a very competitive category, particularly between Danes and Davis. If the voters enjoy her multiple performances in ‘Orphan Black’, she could pull off a big win. I wouldn’t count on it though.

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    Matt Noble
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    Jeffrey Tambor is brilliant in Transparent, but the question is, will voters find his performance too dramatic for comedy? Sure, he has some very funny scenes, but the subject matter of the show could sway voters into rewarding a more comedic performance, in which case Will Forte is probably next in line for the award. He has a terrific submission, Tambor definitely doesn’t have this in the bag yet.

    Yeah part of me this year has been worried Tambor’s performance isn’t funny or BIG enough to win. However I think the larger pool of voters in the category will help him. I also think he is aided by not having the big funny performance to compete with. Macey and Cheadle are in dramedies as well. CK is on a pretty sad show. LeBlanc is funny but no fireworks. Forte has a strong and funny tape, but it’s not the kind of thing Parsons and Cryer submitted. Have not seen Anderson’s tape yet so won’t comment on that. I think the stars have lined up well for Tambor this year – new voting method, raised trans awareness and no Parsosns to contend with. But Forte still has an outside chance. 

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    Tonbone
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    I am sticking with Tambor. Louie C.K.’s episode was fantastic and he shoud win but these fussy voters don’t take him seriously due to playing himself. Maybe the scene with Tambor coming out is enough for a win with the trans embracing this year but if he isn’t funny enough I will go with Louie C.K. 

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    Amanda Spears
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    We probably shouldv’e seen Maslany coming after the SAG nomination but we were all burned on that last year and played it a little too conservative.

    As for Tambor is he really overdue? If they love and respect him so much, why did they not name-check nominate him for “Arrested Development” after he was previously nominated twice for that role. “Transparent” is not a comedy and he doesn’t even have a single scene which makes me smile let alone laugh. I would be shocked if perennial nominees, Cheadle, C.K., or LeBlanc pulled this off, although LeBlanc is the most likely of the three based on tapes.  Forte, probably is his biggest competition his is the showiest role and also very funny. 

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    ETPhoneHome
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    I was thrilled to see Maslany, Forte and Anderson show up on nomination morning. Having seen just the first season of Ray Donovan, I was indifferent to Schreiber. I would’ve been fine with Terrence Howard getting in, but I can’t think of anyone else that really was left out in that category (maybe Clive Owen?). He’s not going to beat Hamm and Chandler, but he should be happy with the nomination.

    Of any of them, Maslany has the best chance, but it’s still a long shot. Her nomination shows that voters have finally noticed her, and I think she has a great chance at a repeat nomination, but I think Davis might be too strong this year.
    I thought the pilot wasn’t actually the strongest episode of Last Man on Earth for Forte. The best part about that show was his Forte’s bumbling deception of the other characters, and I think that he has plenty of screentime in most of the episodes. He’s not going to win, and as for Anderson, he’s extremely consistent throughout the season, but I think he’s the least likely to win of the category. If Crystal had gotten in for his freshman season, he would have had a better chance, but as it is, Tambor is going to win easily.

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    keithw
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    I don’t see any of these four winning.  I predict the Emmys will go to:  Jeffrey Tambor, Jon Hamm, and Viola Davis.

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    Bradley Weir
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    [quote=”Bradderzzzz”]

    Jeffrey Tambor is brilliant in Transparent, but the question is, will voters find his performance too dramatic for comedy? Sure, he has some very funny scenes, but the subject matter of the show could sway voters into rewarding a more comedic performance, in which case Will Forte is probably next in line for the award. He has a terrific submission, Tambor definitely doesn’t have this in the bag yet.

    Yeah part of me this year has been worried Tambor’s performance isn’t funny or BIG enough to win. However I think the larger pool of voters in the category will help him. I also think he is aided by not having the big funny performance to compete with. Macey and Cheadle are in dramedies as well. CK is on a pretty sad show. LeBlanc is funny but no fireworks. Forte has a strong and funny tape, but it’s not the kind of thing Parsons and Cryer submitted. Have not seen Anderson’s tape yet so won’t comment on that. I think the stars have lined up well for Tambor this year – new voting method, raised trans awareness and no Parsosns to contend with. But Forte still has an outside chance. 
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    I agree that the larger number of voters this year will aid a buzzy performance like Tambor’s, especially when Transparent picked up so many nominations. If Orange is the New Black hadn’t been beaten by Modern Family last year, I’d be a bit more assured.



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    Bradley Weir
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    I was thrilled to see Maslany, Forte and Anderson show up on nomination morning. Having seen just the first season of Ray Donovan, I was indifferent to Schreiber. I would’ve been fine with Terrence Howard getting in, but I can’t think of anyone else that really was left out in that category (maybe Clive Owen?). He’s not going to beat Hamm and Chandler, but he should be happy with the nomination.

    Of any of them, Maslany has the best chance, but it’s still a long shot. Her nomination shows that voters have finally noticed her, and I think she has a great chance at a repeat nomination, but I think Davis might be too strong this year.
    I thought the pilot wasn’t actually the strongest episode of Last Man on Earth for Forte. The best part about that show was his Forte’s bumbling deception of the other characters, and I think that he has plenty of screentime in most of the episodes. He’s not going to win, and as for Anderson, he’s extremely consistent throughout the season, but I think he’s the least likely to win of the category. If Crystal had gotten in for his freshman season, he would have had a better chance, but as it is, Tambor is going to win easily.

    Really, you didn’t think the pilot was the strongest? It was the best episode for me, if for nothing but the scene in the bar with the balls!

    I feel like the love for that pilot episode puts Forte in a very strong performance. The same episode making it into directing and writing shows how much they liked it and I can’t see the show leaving empty handed.

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    [quote=”Tischeo”]

    I was thrilled to see Maslany, Forte and Anderson show up on nomination morning. Having seen just the first season of Ray Donovan, I was indifferent to Schreiber. I would’ve been fine with Terrence Howard getting in, but I can’t think of anyone else that really was left out in that category (maybe Clive Owen?). He’s not going to beat Hamm and Chandler, but he should be happy with the nomination.

    Of any of them, Maslany has the best chance, but it’s still a long shot. Her nomination shows that voters have finally noticed her, and I think she has a great chance at a repeat nomination, but I think Davis might be too strong this year.
    I thought the pilot wasn’t actually the strongest episode of Last Man on Earth for Forte. The best part about that show was his Forte’s bumbling deception of the other characters, and I think that he has plenty of screentime in most of the episodes. He’s not going to win, and as for Anderson, he’s extremely consistent throughout the season, but I think he’s the least likely to win of the category. If Crystal had gotten in for his freshman season, he would have had a better chance, but as it is, Tambor is going to win easily.

    Really, you didn’t think the pilot was the strongest? It was the best episode for me, if for nothing but the scene in the bar with the balls!

    I feel like the love for that pilot episode puts Forte in a very strong performance. The same episode making it into directing and writing shows how much they liked it and I can’t see the show leaving empty handed.
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    Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a great episode. The thing is, it didn’t have the added bonus of his interactions with the others. The Do-over or Moovin In would have been good choices too. There are good scenes, but I think the reason it got into the other categories was mostly because they liked the show, and the pilot is the obvious choice for most freshman seasons. Transparent was exceptional, of course, but it still submitted the pilot for writing, and got in. The pilot was in the bottom half of its episodes in terms of quality, but it at least required no previous knowledge on the part of voters.

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