LIMITED SERIES & MOVIE Categories (Part 2)

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  • Riley
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    [quote=”thedemonhog”]I do not trust BBC America at the Emmys.  They have gotten one movie nominated ever (The Office Christmas special), most recently missing for Burton and Taylor
    last year, despite 81 on Metacritic and an Oscar nominee leading.  Plus
    their for-your-consideration packaging could not be worse and they did
    not even include A Poet in New York in the set for some
    reason.

    Well, that’s strange. Did PBS include Worricker: Salting
    the Battlefield in their fyc package? I’m still banking on that for the
    last slot.[/quote]All that they sent this year was Orphan Black and Broadchurch.  Last year, their set had Orphan Black, Luther, Burton and Taylor, Wild Things and The Man Who Would Be Bond.  Two years ago, their set had Orphan Black, The Hour, Copper and Ripper Street
    Was their Emmy budget just severely slashed this year?  Their packages
    in past years had pictures, quotes and cast lists; this year’s has none
    of that.

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    24Emmy
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    [quote=”24Emmy”][quote=”thedemonhog”]I do not trust BBC America at the Emmys.  They have gotten one movie nominated ever (The Office Christmas special), most recently missing for Burton and Taylor
    last year, despite 81 on Metacritic and an Oscar nominee leading.  Plus
    their for-your-consideration packaging could not be worse and they did
    not even include A Poet in New York in the set for some
    reason.

    Well, that’s strange. Did PBS include Worricker: Salting
    the Battlefield in their fyc package? I’m still banking on that for the
    last slot.[/quote]All that they sent this year was Orphan Black and Broadchurch.  Last year, their set had Orphan Black, Luther, Burton and Taylor, Wild Things and The Man Who Would Be Bond.  Two years ago, their set had Orphan Black, The Hour, Copper and Ripper Street
    Was their Emmy budget just severely slashed this year?  Their packages
    in past years had pictures, quotes and cast lists; this year’s has none
    of that.
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    Silly BBC America. What about PBS?

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    Atypical
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    What about “Wolf Hall”? It’s being campaigned by PBS, not BBC America, correct?

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    Riley
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    Oh, heh heh.  PBS has sent out Downton Abbey and Wolf Hall, but not Mr Selfridge or Salting the Battlefield.  They did send out Page Eight a few years ago, so maybe PBS’s Emmy budget has been slashed as well.  Salting the Battlefield is not being submitted for any Creative Arts categories.  The other three are being submitted everywhere, but none are being submitted in makeup for some reason.  I have compared Wolf Hall to The Hollow Crown before, but PBS never sent that one out, so maybe equating them is unfair.

    As far as I am concerned, both actress categories are between Bessie and American Horror Story.  If I had to put money down right now, I would go with the former taking both because people seem to be getting tired of American Horror Story, as exemplified by Critics’ Choice snubbing it even with a tie.  Then again, the Producers Guild nominated it over Olive Kitteridge and they theoretically are more in line with the Emmys.  But Jessica Lange just missed at the Screen Actors Guild for the first time even with a tie.  But these things mostly come down to tapes and the Emmys have no problem awarding the same performance several times.

    I guess David Oyelowo is my prediction now for lead actor, which would make three out of four black winners, so yay for diversity on television.  I do not see any of my predicted supporting actor nominees winning; I guess that I would go with Michael Gambon presently.  Olive Kitteridge takes directing and The Honorable Woman gets writing.

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    From DD on the last thread: Paulson is a great actress, but AHS: Freak Show is pretty horrible. The writing is the weakest of the series; I couldn’t even finish it. Paulson could still win since her role is gimmicky, but what Mo’Nique does in the first 25 minutes of “Bessie” is more than enough to justify an Emmy win. Ma Rainey was the best supporting character in the film & that’s due to Mo’s towering performance.

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     But these acting races mean nothing in terms of a show’s quality. Why would have Lange won for Coven if quality came into play? Paulson is so due especially losing for Asylum and she performed the hell out of the material even when it was weak. The gimmick wasn’t a gimmick because Paulson made it a performance rather than a gimmick. Like I said, I love Monique but I don’t think she will take it over Paulson or if Sarandon is something special. Even Zoe Kazan for Olive Kitteridge has a better shot I think  

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    From DD on the last thread: Paulson is a great actress, but AHS: Freak Show is pretty horrible. The writing is the weakest of the series; I couldn’t even finish it. Paulson could still win since her role is gimmicky, but what Mo’Nique does in the first 25 minutes of “Bessie” is more than enough to justify an Emmy win. Ma Rainey was the best supporting character in the film & that’s due to Mo’s towering performance.

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     But these acting races mean nothing in terms of a show’s quality. Why would have Lange won for Coven if quality came into play? Paulson is so due especially losing for Asylum and she performed the hell out of the material even when it was weak. The gimmick wasn’t a gimmick because Paulson made it a performance rather than a gimmick. Like I said, I love Monique but I don’t think she will take it over Paulson or if Sarandon is something special. Even Zoe Kazan for Olive Kitteridge has a better shot I think  

    Coven was pretty good & Lange did her best work of the entire AHS series. I thought Tyson had it that year, but Lange was definitely a worthy win. Emmy voters aren’t sympathetic. Very few people outside of Goldderby care about Paulson being overdue. Many, many actors are overdue to win Emmys. Jon Hamm & Amy Poehler have nearly 20 Emmy nominations between them & they’ll probably lose again this year despite being overdue. On another note, no one knows who Zoe Kazan is. She’s fine in OK, but she doesn’t have the performance or name recognition to win. She may not get nominated. Mo’Nique is in the buzziest film, has great reviews & is a recent Oscar winner. Her being in the headlines recently could also help (or hurt). At this point, Mo has the most momentum & is in the better project. One of these late season potential nominees (eg Sarandon) could win, but Emmy voters aren’t fond of Lifetime flicks when it comes to wins. Right now I’d give Mo the slight edge for the Emmy win with Paulson a strong potential spoiler. But my guess is if Paulson lost for Asylum (to Burstyn for a project few people saw) then she’s more likely to lose again this year for a weaker effort.

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    Is Bessie really that buzzy?
    I haven’t heard any talk about it outside of awards-obsessed sites like this. Which isn’t the case for, say, AHS. And it was stuck with a Saturday premiere, which to me implies that they don’t expect many to actually watch it and it was made just to get awards noms.  

    I’m not saying there’s great buzz for anything else, as this year’s field looks barren/crap, but still. 

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    Yeah no one is really talking about it. All the talk in the Entertainment world is about Mad Men, Mad Max, or Cannes and Bessie pretty much came and went. I feel like Nightingale is the project that HBO is more confident in since it has the memorial day weekend slot 

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    In the crafts categories, Bessie wins sound mixing, American Horror Story wins hairstyling and makeup, Olive Kitteridge wins casting, The Honorable Woman wins cinematography and 24 wins editing, score and sound editing if eligible.  If not, Houdini wins sound editing, Olive Kitteridge wins editing and Wolf Hall wins score.

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    Plenty of media outlets have promoted and reviewed “Bessie” before its premiere with many calling this Queen Latifah’s career-best performance. It’s plain wrong to claim otherwise.

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    Bessie may not be in The Normal Heart category but it was still better material than AHS: Freakshow. AHS has a fanbase to it, which is why it’s being mentioned in awards conversation as well as its track record with the three previous seasons. Sarah Paulson could win Critics Choice but lose the Emmy, like she did in Asylum. Same with Finn Wittrock. 

     Nobody is saying Freak Show’s quality is better than Bessie. Paulson’s performance is better though. Just because an overall project lacks the quality doesn’t mean the performance should take the hit too. And I think the TV academy is more on board at throwing Paulson a bone than Monique. I would be happy for either of them but Paulson has the more Emmy worthy performance, she plays two characters, and she has been nomination 3 years straight. If Kathy Bates can win for what many assume are just the first few episodes of Coven that voters watched than Paulson will get that same bump since her stronger work is in those first few episodes 

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    She deserves it AND she is due, made sure to leave out overdue because she has a total of 3 nominations. She gives the better performance and has more meat to her performance. Monique doesn’t have that stand out clip that many people talk about that is required to win. But if we are going to talk about a name check winner, than Susan Sarandon would take this. Monique isn’t an Ellen Burstyn or Kathy Bates. 

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    After finally seeing Bessie I’m pretty sure Queen Latifah is now the front-runner for Best Actress at the Emmys her performance carries that movie. I am now sure Mo’Nique will not be nominated, nothing about that performance is special and given the negative attention from complaining about the industry after her Oscar win this will not be enough to get into the race.

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    She has more meat? I disagree. What clip does Sarah Paulson have? I honestly forgot because I haven’t watched it since January. You don’t always have to have that “one clip”. That one “award worthy clip”. Kathy Bates sure as hell didn’t. Ellen Burstyn didn’t. MoNique isn’t a Ellen Burstyn or Kathy Bates but she is an Oscar winner. All three were Oscar winners. As for overall performances, MoNique is more strong. Now if the voters want to give Freak Show something, then yeah, Paulson is your best bet. But for now, MoNique is at the top of my predictions with Sarah being a close second.

    Okay, stop right there. Are you serious? “American Horror Story” is not the audience or Academy favorite for sure, but these women were both brilliant, especially Sarah Paulson who gave one of the most complex and outstanding performances on TV this season. They have nothing, but worthy and baity clips and moments all the way through.

    Sarah Paulson is incredibly deserving for the win, not only for her being overdue, but because her performance is THAT good. I don’t care about Monique, if she’s good, she should win, but Paulson is very deserving also. I mean fucking deserving. Next to Finn Wittrock, she is the one who made it possible for me to enjoy “American Horror Story” again.

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    4 reviews are on metacritic for Texas Rising. All are mixed I’m not predicting it for any nominations.

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