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  • Tom O’Neil
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    Tonbone
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    #295799

    I really enjoyed the chats I love Chris’ sarcasm I went in thinking Jesse Ferguson was in the #1 but after hearing what these guys said I am not sure Since I didn’t see Burrell or O’Neils tapes and since I am a huge BREAKING BAD fan I am picking them to win best writing directing and series

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    Marcus Dixon
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    #295800

    A day after filming that Drama Series slugfest, I decided to drop “Breaking Bad” down to #2 and promoted “Homeland” to my #1 position.

    Gulp.

    Here’s hoping I’m wrong! #treadlightly

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    Daniel Montgomery
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    #295801

    I’ve moved Jane Lynch up to 3rd, and Bill Hader down to 3rd.

    Even in the off chance Hader actually wins, I’ll be content I knowing I’m on record making the case when everyone else thought I was crazy. 

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    Ghost
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    #295802

    I moved Jane Lynch up to 3rd (previously 5th) and Ed O’Niel to 4th (previously 5th). These are really weak categories this year that it’s easy to predict who will win. It’s a shame Nick Offerman wasn’t nominated, he had some really strong episodes that were better than the ones the nominees submitted.

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    Riley
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    #295803

    I’ve moved Jane Lynch up to 3rd, and Bill Hader down to 3rd.  Even in the off chance Hader actually wins, I’ll be content I knowing I’m on record making the case when everyone else thought I was crazy. 

    Have you read the last couple pages of the comedy supporting thread?  Stay strong on Bill Hader!

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    Marcus Snowden (The Artist Formerly Known as msnowden1)
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    #295804

    I’m waiting until after the Creative Arts Emmys to change my Drama Series predictions. If Breaking Bad sweeps the awards there (or a least win a few creative Emmys), then I’m keeping it at my #1 spot. If it doesn’t, then I’m switching to Homeland.

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    KT
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    #295805

    Game of Thrones should perform really well. Which categories will be key for you in deciding between Homeland and Breaking Bad? Editing, cinematography?

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    SaraR
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    Homeland is not nominated for editing. Perhaps Rupert Friend winning Guest Actor, as he does have the best tape but it going up against a few legends (Michael J. Fox, Nathan Lane)?

    [quote=”Daniel_Montgomery”]I’ve moved Jane Lynch up
    to 3rd, and Bill Hader down to 3rd.  Even in the off chance Hader
    actually wins, I’ll be content I knowing I’m on record making the case
    when everyone else thought I was crazy. 

    Have you read the last couple pages of the comedy supporting thread?  Stay strong on Bill Hader!
    [/quote]
    We never should have doubted you about Connie Britton…

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    Riley
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    Things will bode well for Breaking Bad if it can finally win cinematography.  It has never won and deserves to win from what was nominated because the ASC-winning/BAFTA-nominated cinematography on Hunted was snubbed.  The odds are in Game of Thrones‘ favour because this category loves lavish HBO productions, having previously awarded Boardwalk Empire, Rome, Deadwood and CarnivàleGame of Thrones
    suffered from vote-splitting the last two years so was snubbed despite
    an ASC win, but it miraculously overcame that this year despite six
    submissions.

    The last decade has seen a different winner every year, so if Homeland wins casting again, that will indicate support.  My money is on House of CardsGame of Thrones
    could win and that would indicate more support than I am anticipating,
    but not dramatically more.  After all, it has not won yet and Mad Men won as late as its third season.

    Sound mixing is a legitimate three-horse race and with the same horses as in series, so maybe this is the one to watch.  Game of Thrones won last year, Homeland just won with the guild and Breaking Bad is what I am predicting because train heist.  They are not the same thing, but Homeland did miss out in sound editing again, even though the guild nominated it, so Emmy sound branch support might be a bit lacking.

    If Breaking Bad loses editing to House of Cards‘ two-time Oscar-winning editor, I will probably switch my series prediction.  Breaking Bad
    has the montages from “Gliding Over All” and the guild-winning “Dead
    Freight”.  If there should be any kind of surprise in this category, it
    should be that it has tied itself for the win.  And if Game of Thrones can stage a massive upset after being snubbed the last two years—I wish that “Baelor” had won in 2011—watch out.

    If Game of Thrones somehow loses sound editing with its dragons to “Dead Freight”, watch out for Breaking Bad.  The sound editors guild did not even nominate it this year.

    If Rupert Friend loses, Homeland is weaker than I expected, but still in second place.

    If House of Cards
    wins editing and casting, we need to take it seriously.  If it wins
    cinematography as well, we should probably move it into first.

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    Marcus Dixon
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    #295808

    Your Creative Arts analysis is wonderful, Riley.

    Something deep down inside me is worried about recent history, though.

    In 2012 the big Creative Arts winner was “Game of Thrones.” It lost Best Drama.

    In 2011 the big Creative Arts winner was “Boardwalk Empire.” It lost Best Drama.

    Anyone recall what series claimed the most Creative Arts trophies in 2010 and 2009? (I’m too lazy to look it up, haha!)

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    Riley
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    #295809

    Why does that worry you?

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    Daniel Montgomery
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    #295810

    I wouldn’t put too much stock in Creative Arts winners in terms of predicting Best Series. The two times “Sopranos” won Best Drama it didn’t win a single Creative Arts prize.

    “Mad Men” won 4 Creative Arts Awards the first time it won Best Drama, but then only 1 or 2 its next three times. The last year it won Best Drama, its only other Emmy win was Hairstyling.

    When “24” won it only took two Creative Arts prizes.

    “Modern Family” has only won 1 Creative Arts Award in the last two years.

    Winning them doesn’t mean your chances improve for Best Series. Losing doesn’t mean your chances diminish.

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