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    Bill Buchanan
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    #244832

    Is this for real? because if it is, it totally blows.

    This is just for next year, right? 

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    helmetz
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    Deadline TV:  http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/emmys-tv-academy-merges-lead-supporting-acting-categories-for-movies-miniseries/

    Following last year’s decision by the TV Academy to merge the best TV
    movie and best mini-series categories in one, now The Academy of
    Television Arts & Sciences’ Board of Governors has voted to
    consolidate the longform performers categories beginning with this
    year’s Primetime Emmy Awards.

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    Oscarluver30
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    To shorten the telecast, either move some of the categories to the Creative Arts Emmys or get rid of the montages, but you shouldn’t have to get rid of those acting categories all together!!  Bad move!!

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    Nate
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    OK, this is starting in 2013: http://www.emmys.com/articles/longform-performing-categories-consolidate

    Longform Performing Categories to Consolidate

    The category consolidation will begin with the 2013 Primetime Emmys. At that time, the number of nominees will increase to six.

    The Academy of Television Arts & Sciences’ Board of Governors has voted to approve a recommendation by the Performers Peer Group and the Primetime Awards Committee to consolidate the longform performers categories beginning with the 2013 Primetime Emmy Awards.

    This will combine both lead and supporting performers into a single category for longform programming.

    The consolidated categories (now titled Outstanding Actor in a Miniseries or Movie and Outstanding Actress in a Miniseries or Movie) will include six nominees each. (Longform performing categories previously had five nominees.)

    Adding a sixth nominee will provide consistency with the number of nominees in the other performer categories.

    Whew! I was beginning to think all of that cobbling together of contenders would be for naught!

    Given the paucity of longform programming, this isn’t altogether shocking, although I do find it disappointing, as character actors are now even less likely to get Emmy recognition. Especially if Downton Abbey does well this year, I think that this decision will only encourage more PBS programming (Sherlock and Upstairs Downstairs) to go the series route next time. And this is being overseen by the board of governors, so I am in particular surprised at Kathryn Joosten for being part of this decision (I am curious if she’ll speak publicly about it).

    Variety provides a little more analysis: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118054855/

    Emmys compress mini-movie acting categories for ’13 Lead and supporting thesps to compete against each other
    By Jon Weisman

    Lead and supporting acting performances for longform programming will be combined into the same category at the 2013 Primetime Emmys, following approval by the TV Academy’s Board of Governors.

    The performers peer group and the primetime awards committee had recommended that there be single categories for outstanding actor in a miniseries or movie and outstanding actress. Each of the two categories will have six nominees, compared with five each when there were four categories, meaning that the total nominations for acting in miniseries or movies will be cut from 20 to 12.

    In 2011, Barry Pepper of “The Kennedys” and Guy Pearce of “Mildred Pierce” won lead and supporting mini-movie acting Emmys, as did Kate Winslet of “Mildred” and Maggie Smith of “Downton Abbey.”

    The change won’t affect this year’s Emmy contenders, but looking at them can give a hint of the effect the consolidation will have next year. Lead and supporting actors in miniseries and movies year include Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton (“Hatfields and McCoys”), Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman (“Sherlock”), Idris Elba (“Luther”), Woody Harrelson and Ed Harris (“Game Change”), Dylan McDermott (“American Horror Story”), Bill Nighy (“Page Eight”), Clive Owen (“Hemingway and Gelhorn”), Dominic West (“The Hour” and “Appropriate Adult”) and Ben Whishaw (“The Hour”).

    Potential actress nominees in minis and movies are Connie Britton and Jessica Lange (“American Horror Story”), Romola Garai (“The Hour”), Nicole Kidman (“Hemingway and Gellhorn”), Julianne Moore (“Game Change”), Emily Watson (“Appropriate Adult”), Rachel Weisz (“Page Eight”) and Patricia Clarkson, Rosario Dawson, Lyndsy Fonseca, Ginnifer Goodwin and Jeanne Tripplehorn (“Five”).

    And more analysis from The Hollywood Reporter: http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/emmys-combine-lead-supporting-acting-categories-movies-and-miniseries-42191

    Emmys Combine Lead, Supporting Acting Categories for Movies and Miniseries
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    Tim Molloy

    The Emmys are combining the lead and supporting categories in the movies and miniseries categories.

    The consolidated categories (now titled Outstanding Actor in a Miniseries or Movie and Outstanding Actress in a Miniseries or Movie) will include six nominees each. The previously existing categories previously had five nominees.

    The combination will likely make it harder for those in supporting film and miniseries roles to win Emmys. If the lead and supporting categories had been merged in 2010, for example, Julia Ormond would have had to compete with Claire Danes, who won the lead actress Emmy while playing the titular character in the movie “Temple Grandin.” Ormond, who was nominated for supporting actress, had a much smaller role in the film.

    The combination continues a streamlining that began with merging the movie and miniseries categories. The Academy of Television Arts & Sciences’ Board of Governors announced in February of last year that it would unite the category into one, partly in response to fewer miniseries being produced.

    The decision came under the Emmy’s “rule 14,” allowing consolidation of categories if there were fewer than 14 submissions in a two-year period.

    “It’s kind of a respiratory system: You breathe in, you breathe out, you expand here, you contract there,” John Leverance, the academy’s senior vice president of awards, told TheWrap.

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    Really dumb move on their part. Yes, half the people nominated here usually don’t deserve it, but the half who do will now get nothing.

    And using this as an excuse to shorten the ceremony is laughable. The 5-10 minutes these categories take to present will just be taken up by useless montages and presenter banner no one wants or needs to see.

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    Alijah Purdy
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    Am I the only one who thinks the Emmy’s are slowly, but surely, turning into the Screen Actors Guild Awards??? And we all know how terrible their nominations are each year!

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    Yikes. They’re eliminating those categories completely? That’s SAG nonsense. It’ll cripple the supporting nominees and character actors (many of whom aren’t big names and wouldn’t prevail like they might at the SAGs) in favor of the leads, and this won’t shorten the show any either. The show will still run over regardless. Bad, bad move, Emmys.

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    Yeah, this is so like SAG… just imagine if this had happened last year. This is what the emmys would have been saying to the winners: “Sorry Guy Pierce and Maggie Smith… you won’t even get nominated, let alone win! So just go back to England or wherever it is you’re from.”

    very disappointing… 

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    As someone who’s still smarting over the combining of Miniseries and Made-For-Television Movie into a single category (if you’ve got at least two competing miniseries, no matter how weak they are, you’ve got a legitimate competition), I really am appalled at this latest turn of events. I don’t know what the Academy is trying to prove or disprove by doing this, but… what a royal pity for a lot of gifted and deserving actors and actresses. Ridiculous, and I cannot agree more with the “Cut the montages, etc.” chorus that has come up several times on the topic already… Oy.

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    True, the Emmys are turning into the SAG Awards and this will be another step toward starf****g. Because Betty White could be a nominee for a lousy performance in a lousy Hallmark movie while a hard-working Brit will have a hard time getting into the final six. Come on, this is an absurd decision. Why don’t they simply move these awards to the Creative Arts Emmys? The show lasts three hours. It doesn’t need that many categories. But this change simply doesn’t make sense to me. The Emmys will still reward supporting performances in the drama and comedy fields, but not in mini/movie.  

    If this were the case this year, the actual snub wouldn’t have been Lange but actually somebody like Sarah Paulson who delivered great work but wouldn’t have a shot. 
     

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    This is just ridiculous. If it is to have a shorter ceremony, then dump some stuff over to the Creative Arts or eliminate a lot of the dead weight like the montages.

    It’s really sad for some actors who do some great work but would never be recognized when it comes to their bigger name costars. Last year we had some deserving people from Mildred Pierce get nominated, in a situation like this only Wood and Pearce would’ve made it in from the supporting cast, and that’s a big maybe.

    Of course there are situation where this is deserved like Tripplehorn and Howard for Grey Gardens with Howard actually winning, or the Ellen Burstyn situation, but those aren’t very popular or repetitive examples to warrant eliminating both categories.

    And yes, it’s just as ridiculous as the SAG awards not recognizing these people or the ensembles from these films/series. 

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    This is terribly disappointing and unfair to supporting players.

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    They should’ve merged the Supporting categories together instead, no male/female, and leave the Lead categories as it is.

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