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  • dsps84
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    #293909

    With the faliure of Monica Potter to be nominated, for the first time EVER, NBC does not have a nod in any major Drama category (series, directing, writing, acting). It’s ironic that the network that brought us Hill Street Blues, LA Law, ER, and The West Wing can no longer get arrested in this genre. Will things change next year?  Do you guys think any of their new dramas can score a major nod? ABC was in the same boat last year (and 2011) but made a comeback this year with three bids.

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    JOSHUA
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    I don’t know about any of the new series breaking into Drama Series, but James Spader, John Malkovich, Jonathan Rhys-Meyer, Gillian Anderson, and Blair Underwood can all be major conteders if their respective shows take off critically and/or ratings-wise.

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    Renaton
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    Craig T. Nelson spoke on TCA about how it’s disappointing that through most of its run, NBC has failed to support Parenthood in terms of building an audience and having confidence in the show. They are just now showing signs of changing that that attitude, with the new timeslot and full season order, but when it comes to Emmys, it might be too late, which is too bad. Unfortunately, NBC simply does not know how to handle their dramas. If you ask me, I think next year we’ll be seeing them completely shut out once again (even though Hannibal and Parenthood are deserving of some big nominations, especially the former). 

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    Riley
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    It is weird that Hannibal was completely shut out.  No cinematography, no prosthetics, etc.

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    SaraR
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    I hope Hannibal can make it into some of the technical categories. I feel like any of the major ones is dreaming, but who knows?

    With Monica Potter, that snub is kind of bewildering to me. She seemed like a lock for someone who had never been nominated before given NBC’s fairly aggressive campaign for her.

    Like Parenthood, NBC has not really known how to market Hannibal as well. It has a very strong following online and received great reviews but it was just dumped at 10pm on Thursdays (against Scandal on ABC and Elementary on CBS, I believe, two established ratings hits) at the end of the season. It would have paired really well with a show like Grimm, but they put it on after their low-rated comedies in a slot that since the end of ER has been pretty abysmal for the network.

    At times I just have to wonder what’s going through the minds of these programming executives.

    (And none of NBC’s upcoming drama offerings interest me at all.)

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    Renaton
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    Blacklist seems to have a good pilot, according to critics, but it looks like the kind of show that could easily fizzle out. My guess is NBC is gonna continue to be completely absent from Drama categories. I expect it to continue to do pretty well on comedy though.

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    SaraR
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    On the one hand, I think it’s unfair to single out NBC in this (OP said that ABC failed the past two years). It’s really a broadcast network-wide problem.

    7 to 11 million viewers is nothing to scoff at, but a 0.8 in the demo is, because that’s where the majority of ad dollars go. And that’s where these networks get all their revenue. I’m not saying it’s right, but I also don’t think it’s necessarily wrong either.

    I think the broadcast system as it currently is is just not viable today. Everything from the way they market new shows and pilots (let’s dump them all on viewers in the span of 7-14 days!) to the way they air them (22+ episodes a season for dramas is a hindrance to quality) to their insistence on tired formulas (not saying that serialized dramas are inherently “better” than procedurals, but there is a really sorry lack of creativity in broadcast dramas today, and I feel like they’re only now catching onto the cable anti-hero trend that, on cable, is currently being ushered out the door).

    Broadcast does still have an upper hand in comedy, and I don’t think they get enough credit for that, but for some reason drama seems to be more respected than comedy anyway.

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    BTN
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    Potter was NBC’s best chance but that got caught up in the anti-broadcast bais. Not just the bad image of NBC. NBC had a bad image when Harry’s Law got Bates nominations and won an Emmy for Paul McCrane. NBC cancelled its Emmy winner and highest rated drama. It’s up to NBC to campaign harder but it’s still got the anti broadcast bias. Parenthood is a really good show but not big and flashy like Scandal or with an Emmy favorite like Connie Britton.

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    Potter was NBC’s best chance but that got caught up in the anti-broadcast bais. Not just the bad image of NBC. NBC had a bad image when Harry’s Law got Bates nominations and won an Emmy for Paul McCrane. NBC cancelled its Emmy winner and highest rated drama. It’s up to NBC to campaign harder but it’s still got the anti broadcast bias. Parenthood is a really good show but not big and flashy like Scandal or with an Emmy favorite like Connie Britton.

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    Riley
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    Most-watched, not highest-rated.

    NBC dramas picked up a grand total of four nominations this year:
    Smash got two for original song, while Revolution was recognized for its visual effects and stunts.

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    Yeah, an analysis I read somewhere (Yes, I realize it could be BS.) said that 18-49 is so predominantly important over total audience that two shows can have the same 18-49, and the one with LOWER total audience will get more ad dollars.
    Though that’s not because 50+ year olds are an actually negative asset, but because a higher audience total in that situation usually means the “18-49” audience is closer to 49 than 18. And 18-34 is even more valuable than, say, late 40s.

    And it is a broadcast-wise problem. But after next season’s Emmys, I’m VERY curious to see how basic cable will hold up without AMC’s two golden children to represent.

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    Riley
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    Low Winter Sun is getting tepid reviews so far

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    But after next season’s Emmys, I’m VERY curious to see how basic cable will hold up without AMC’s two golden children to represent.

    Me, too. I wonder if FX will be able to break into the drama categories in a meaningful way. Showtime has some really interesting offerings in the next few years — the Catholic church pilot with Kyle Chandler, Masters of Sex this year, and then The Affair pilot with Dominic West and Ruth Wilson and Maura Tierney, which sounds like big Emmy bait. Also curious to know what Netflix has brewing.

    All of which is to say I don’t think cable/premium cable will be going anywhere. Broadcast just seems to be on a downward trajectory re: dramas and I don’t see that changing anytime soon.

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    Low Winter Sun is getting tepid reviews so far

    It’s amazing how lucky they were to have Breaking Bad and Mad Men. They have yet to come close (in the last five years) of replicating either show’s critical success.

    But I’m sure TWD helps numb that pain. 

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    Alijah Purdy
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    I really want to address Bates and Harry’s Law issues. I think Bates is completely right about NBC. NBC made a horrible decision cancelling Harry’s Law. It was the most watched show on NBC, and it was a quality show as well. Bates reaped 2 consecutive emmy nominations, and it also got 2 guest acting nods for it, and it even won an Emmy. I know a lot of people who watched the show and loved it. And just because it was older people watching the show means nothing IMO. Most of those older people probably had children of grandchildren that they would buy some of the products that were being advertised for. It REALLY pissed me off (and still does to this day) that NBC cancelled this show. While the first season wasn’t that great, the second season was a huge jump in quality. I was really looking forward to seeing what the third season would do. This show would have been so great on a network like TNT or even USA. Ugh!!! Even writing about it pisses me off all over again! DAMN YOU NBC!!!!

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