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June 27, 2017 at 11:17 am #1202134692
The new nomination procedure that includes the ability to vote for an unlimited number of candidates on your ballot has been casually mentioned but not discussed in depth and I think deserves its own forum topic. I am really struggling to reconcile how this might affect the nominations. Unfortunately, I feel that it will tend to favor more populist choices over passionate underdogs. Has anyone developed a theory as to how this play out? Will it even have any effect at all? Discuss.June 27, 2017 at 11:21 am #1202134697
I haven’t yet developed a proper idea of what this might mean (and probably never really will) but what I do know is that people who are hoping for outsiders from little watched shows to scrape in are going to be very disappointed on nomination morning.
FYC: The Crown, Fleabag and AHS: Roanoke for Gold Derby TV AwardsJune 27, 2017 at 11:39 am #1202134712
I’m not wild about this system at all. On my ballot for drama writing, I deliberately kept it at 5 choices. These were 5 drama scripts about which I felt strongly, and I knew that if I threw in 10 more titles for the heck of it, my passion votes would suddenly have no value.June 27, 2017 at 11:41 am #1202134715
Was this ever publicly announced by the Academy?June 27, 2017 at 11:45 am #1202134718
This makes no sense but ok.June 27, 2017 at 11:57 am #1202134724
Contenders I’m now predicting since this update:
-Laura Dern (such a shame I’ve taken out Sally Phillips who I thought had a real shot before)
-House of Cards
-American Horror Story: Roanoke
Contenders I’m very close to predicting:
FYC: The Crown, Fleabag and AHS: Roanoke for Gold Derby TV AwardsJune 27, 2017 at 12:49 pm #1202134751
The editors are split on whether this means A) more mediocre nominees that have broad support, or B) more niche nominees that have passionate support. I guess we’ll see when the noms come out!June 27, 2017 at 1:00 pm #1202134771
I gunk this means more namecheck she and less passion. The passion votes do better with fewer because they are not diluted by extra spots. Extra spots means filler choices. Voters might now vote for there favorites as well as anything else they watch. Or anybody else they know. This probably means namecheck like Hank Azaria for Brockmire and Margo Matendal for The Americans. I could easily see The Big Bang Theory come back. I think this helps shows like the Walking Dead, 13 Reasons Why, and this is Us and hurts stuff like Louie Anderson.
Hipefully all voters will now respond like Helmetz and only fill out the best. In an ideal world, people will see there isn’t a required amount and might do less. For example, if they were supposed to chose 5 and they don’t have 5 choices, maybe instead of resulting in filler name checks they will only vote for 3. Ideally this helps.
sadly, I don’t think this will help obscure, niche performances like Issa Rae, Aisha Hinds, and Phoebe Waller Bridge,June 27, 2017 at 1:14 pm #1202134803
The passion votes do better with fewer because they are not diluted by extra spots. Extra spots means filler choices.
This is my thinking as well. Such a shame. I was really starting to believe Waller-Bridge would make it after TCA.
FYC: The Crown, Fleabag and AHS: Roanoke for Gold Derby TV AwardsJune 27, 2017 at 2:00 pm #1202134863
I really don’t like this new rule, and I agree, shows with passion votes will likely not make it over more popular shows.June 27, 2017 at 2:07 pm #1202134866
This means more name checking. So Modern Family, Viola Davis, House Of Cards, Uzo Aduba, maybe Taraji have “good” chances. Maybe this is good for American Crime? Either way I’m not too crazy about it. I pray that this doesn’t include The Big Bang Theory.June 27, 2017 at 2:21 pm #1202134879
Goodbye Carrie Coon, Freddie Highmore, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Aisha Hinds, Eva Green…June 27, 2017 at 2:22 pm #1202134880
Trash trash trash.June 27, 2017 at 2:27 pm #1202134883
Now that I think about it, this system might have one VERY IMPORTANT bennifit. With unlimited spots, voters might have leftover votes. Literally. Since they can vote for as many as they want, and they might add Leftovers to the mix out of buzz. It happens all the time when the voters probably don’t watch the shows but nominate it because the buzz is to loud. With unlimited spots, that makes it even easier.
Also, even though I think we’ll have plenty of bad nominees, I think this will result in a lot of 2% ties and we will see 8 nominees in a lot of categories.
I also started wondering, with unlimited votes, that spreads out the namecheck, I wonder if passion votes can prevail. If voters can vote as much as they want Willy nilly, the votes spread equally to major shows and big names. But maybe those passion groups are strategic and that causes those passion votes to pull through. I like this theory more than the other.
I honestly have no idea. So I’m either expecting the best nominees ever or the worst nominees ever.