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  • CanadianFan
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    Game of Thrones – 19
    Fargo – 18
    AHS: Coven – 17
    The Normal Heart – 16
    Breaking Bad – 16
    House of Cards – 13
    True Detective – 12
    Orange Is The New Black – 12
    Downton Abbey – 12
    Modern Family – 10

    Veep – 9
    Mad Men – 8 

    Other interesting totals:

    The Big Bang Theory – 7
    Louie – 5
    Silicon Valley – 5
    The Good Wife – 5
    Homeland – 4
    Shameless – 3
    Brooklyn Nine-Nine – 2
    Girls – 2
    The Americans – 1 

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    Spenser Davis
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    Well, it’s always great to see that the theory that “shows lose nominations as they progress” isn’t true, at least not in the case of Game of Thrones. Say what you will about the filler that the series can be guilty of stuffing certain storylines with, but the production values are knockout. If you told me ten years ago that a fantastical world like Westeros would have been created on TV, I would have said you’re insane. Now, they make it look easy.

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    That Don Guy
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    I think Cosmos also has 12 (13, if you include a NationalGeographic.com “episode”)

    Also:
    The Voice – 10
    Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown – 7
    Dancing With the Stars – 7
    So You Think You Can Dance? – 7 (albeit 4 in choreography – then again, that’s a juried award (which, for some reason, has nominees), so there’s always the possibility that all four entries can win)

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    CanadianFan
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    Big Winners (year-to-year):

    Veep +4
    Breaking Bad +4
    House of Cards +4
    GoT + 3

    Big losers:
    Girls -3
    Mad Men -4
    Homeland -7 (!)
     

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    Riley
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    You should include the interactive media nomination for the Game of Thrones premiere and bring that total to twenty.

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    Halo_Insider
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    Didn’t Mad Men actually lose 4 noms this year? I thought they had 12 in 2013. 

    Still a little surprised that Hendricks got in.  

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    You should include the interactive media nomination for the Game of Thrones premiere and bring that total to twenty.

    No, that does not count as a nomination for the show itself. (Note it is listed separately from the show’s noms on the Program by Program Index document.)

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    Riley
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    Which I disagree with, especially since the social media for the Game of Thrones premiere cannot really be considered a “program”.

    Yes, Mad Men had twelve last year.

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    Laactingnyc
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    Game of Thrones got 20 nominations.

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    rp
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    the social media for the Game of Thrones premiere cannot really be considered a “program”.

    I agree that calling the social media an “interactive program” is clunky, but it doesn’t change the fact that this nomination is not for work on the show, it’s for promoting the show, which is entirely separate. Game of Thrones the series has 19 nominations.

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    Riley
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    To take full advantage of the Primetime Emmy Award nominations as a resource in predicting what will win Outstanding Comedy Series, one must go beyond nominations totals to examine how nominations measured up to expectations, which vary for shows and across categories.

    First-time Outstanding Comedy Series nominee Orange is the New Black led the comedy nominations with twelve, with recognition for writing, directing, casting, editing and five of its actresses.  Unlike Modern Family and Veep, Orange is the New Black was not nominated for its art direction or sound mixing; however, the awards given out by those branches are split into categories based on episode length.  This means that Orange is the New Black was snubbed for the likes of Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones, not Modern Family and Veep, so those omissions are not strikes against it.

    The comedies did compete head-to-head in Outstanding Editing, where Veep submitted four episodes, Orange is the New Black three and Modern Family two.  Modern Family had the easiest path to a nomination since it was the least at risk of vote-splitting, but only one of its episodes made it in, while all three from Orange is the New Black did.  Veep was not nominated, which almost precludes it from winning the top prize, as no other category is so highly correlated with it.  There have only been two years this millennium when the Outstanding Comedy Series was not nominated for Outstanding Editing (Sex and the City in 2001 and 30 Rock in 2007).  Veep also missed Outstanding Directing, while Modern Family missed Outstanding Writing; those races have four exceptions each.  Both series got nominations for art direction, casting, sound mixing and four performances.

    Louie only has five nominations, for Outstanding Comedy Series, Writing, Directing, Casting and Lead Actor, but if any series can win the top prize with so few nominations, it is Louie because of the circumstances in which it did not earn others.  An incumbent nominee, it was not nominated for Outstanding Editing because it did not submit itself.  Outstanding Sound Mixing is another surprisingly important nomination, as every Outstanding Comedy Series since Arrested Development in 2004 has had one, but Louie again did not submit.  Louie received a win last year for one-time guest Melissa Leo, but it was snubbed in the guest races this year.  However, it is probable that this resulted through vote-splitting rather than lack of support, because the show received its first casting nomination this year and had submitted seventeen guests—far more than nomination slots available.

    Silicon Valley exceeded expectations with Outstanding Comedy Series, Writing, Directing, Art Direction and Main Title Design nominations, but it missed acting and Outstanding Casting.  The latter is particularly disappointing since the award typically favors new shows.  The show was also snubbed in the aforementioned important Outstanding Editing and Sound Mixing races, so has an uphill battle.

    With nominations at the last two Directors Guild of America Awards, The Big Bang Theory was poised to finally break into Outstanding Directing, important because the series is yet to have a writing or directing nomination and the last Outstanding Comedy Series without either the year that it won was Friends in 2002, although that one had multiple prior nominations in both categories.  The Big Bang Theory again missed both and is down a nomination from last year (Outstanding Hairstyling).

    Debate will continue until the ceremony next month about whether Orange is the New Black can overcome the fact that no dramedy has been Outstanding Comedy Series since Ally McBeal in 1999, as will whether mere inertia can carry Modern Family to a record-tying (Frasier) fifth consecutive trophy, but based only on the nominations, Orange is the New Black is the winner.

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    Game of Thrones may have eight more Emmy nominations this year than True Detective, but that does not necessarily mean that it is more likely to win Outstanding Drama Series.  Categories vary in how indicative their nominations are of broad support, as something like Outstanding Costumes heavily favors fantasy fare.  Nominations in five particular categories have proven to be almost requisite for the Outstanding Drama award.  They are Outstanding Writing, Directing, Casting, Editing and Sound Mixing.

    Homeland was considered a surprise Outstanding Drama winner in 2012 because it had the fewest nominations of the six nominees, but unlike Mad Men and Breaking Bad, it had all five key nominations.  All seven years this millennium when one or more dramas has had all five, one has won Outstanding Drama.  Breaking Bad and House of Cards have them for the first time, Mad Men is missing all five for the first time and Downton Abbey is missing writing, casting and editing.

    Game of Thrones leads the nominations with a series-high twenty (counting Outstanding Interactive Media), but it missed Outstanding Editing.  2008 is the only year from the 2000s when the Outstanding Drama (Mad Men) was not up for editing.  However, Game of Thrones was editing-nominated last year and made a significant gain this year with its first directing nomination since its 2011 pilot.  2011 is the only year (Mad Men) in the 2000s that the Outstanding Drama was not up for its directing.  Game of Thrones also grew in nominations by taking a second Outstanding Cinematography slot, its first Stunt Coordination nomination in three years and a long-awaited first music nomination.

    After submitting two episodes each of the last two years in Outstanding Editing and getting all nominated, Breaking Bad risked vote-splitting this year when it entered four, more than the two from True Detective or the three from Game of Thrones and House of Cards.  However, three Breaking Bad entries got nominated, alongside single episodes of House of Cards and True Detective.

    Breaking Bad became the third Outstanding Drama in the 2000s last year without a Casting nomination, but it was excusable because that award favors new series.  24 in 2006 and The Sopranos in 2007 were at least as old when they won without casting.  This year, Breaking Bad picked up its first casting nomination and is now the only drama other than Law & Order ever with a nomination after its fifth year.  Breaking Bad also broke into other categories in which it has never contended, largely due to it not fitting the bill of fare that is typically nominated—period and fantasy pieces—for Outstanding Art Direction, Makeup and Prosthetics.  These are not correlated with Outstanding Drama, but suggest a widespread academy desire to acknowledge the show.  Along with dual Outstanding Writing nominations, Breaking Bad is the favorite from the nominations, but Game of Thrones, True Detective and especially House of Cards are within striking distance.

    House of Cards was snubbed in Outstanding Writing and Sound Mixing last year and strategically made just one entry in each this time, which paid off.  24 in 2006 is the only Outstanding Drama that won without Writing, but it was a prior Writing winner.  House of Cards also exceeded expectations in more visible categories with guest nominations for longshots Reg E. Cathey and Kate Mara.

    About the only branch that snubbed True Detective was sound.  Outstanding Sound Mixing is the least crucial key nomination, as three seasons of Mad Men or The West Wing in 2002 can attest.  Unlike House of Cards with its guests or Game of Thrones with its gains or even the first seasons of other contemporary-set HBO dramas like Six Feet Under (twenty-three nominations in 2002) or The Sopranos (sixteen nominations in 1999), there were not any unexpected surpluses of support for True Detective in the nominations, but Homeland overcame that.

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