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  • Paul Vargo
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    #232147

    You can watch the Pilot

    http://www.starz.com/originals/Boss/ScreeningRoom#/episode-1

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    Robert William McCormack
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    I don’t know if I’m alone on this, but I thought that was a superb pilot. Kelsey Grammer was stunningly good, and Gus Van Sant’s direction was captivating. I was hooked. Cannot wait to see if the rest of the season holds up and what we get from the rest of the cast. 

    Grammer could be a real threat in Lead Actor Drama if “Boss” gets any sort of attention, and “Listen” would be a killer tape for him.

    Episode Grade for “Listen”: A 

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    David Buchanan
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    I thought this was sensational. Grammer gives such a phenomenal performance! While I’ll admit that some of the dialogue and subtle hints in the plot went over my head, I was fully invested.

    If his performance is of this level, or even better, in subsequent episodes, Grammer already deserves to win the Emmy!

    Formerly known in the forums as PianoMann.

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    Anonymous
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    I thought this was a great pilot. Grammer was absolutely fantastic in this episode. I have always been a fan of Grammer`s comedic work, so seeing him doing drama is a real treat. His character showed many different emotions throughout the episode. The beginning with Kane learning about the illness he has. The scene in Kane`s office when he ripped into the guy and grabbed him by the ear. The coldness between Kane and his wife. The supporting cast seems like they are going to be very strong on this show. I am interested to see what happens in further episodes with Kane`s daughter Emma. I thought the ears in the box at the end of the episode was great. I can`t wait to see the storylines that unfold for the rest of the season.

    “Listen”: A      

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    Irishmovielover4ever
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    It is obvious that the creators of this show were influnced by “Citizen Kane” when creating this show and I say parts of orson wells character and some of the scenes are similar.

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    Lone Pirate
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    There were far more things I enjoyed about the pilot (namely the performances and political machinations) than things I didn’t enjoy (the Parkinson’s storyline and the absurb violence) so I will be tuning again. The characters are interesting and I am curious as to where the storylines will lead. It was certainly one of the best pilots of the fall 2011 season.

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    eastwest
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    Though as a whole I wasn’t that impressed, Kelsey Grammer did some strong work here. 

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    I thought this was a strong follow-up to the pilot. Kane is finding it more difficult to deal with his illness. He still can`t bring himself to tell his wife or daughter about it. Kane was really dwelling on the incident that occured at his speech. The governor race between Cullen and Zajac is starting to heat up. The Zajac/Kitty affair could lead to some fireworks down the road.  Emma appears to be falling back into her old bad habits. I liked the scene in Kane`s office with his wife.  Meredith talking about how big of a liability Emma is. Kane saying, “since when do you care where I put it”. I thought that was great. Meredith knew he was still hiding something though.

    “Reflex”: A-      

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    Lone Pirate
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    I, too, enjoyed the second episode as I think the show has a lot of things going for it with its various characters, plots, relationships and Grammer’s strong, central performance. Still, the writers and producers are boxing themselves into a corner with the illness storyline. Kane is not going to get better so their only choices are to have him progressively worsen or remain in relatively the same condition. If he worsens, the public (and his enemies) will notice and he will be forced out of office one or another and there is no show. If his condition stabilizes, then the whole storyline becomes pointless as it now is as irrelevant as his hair color.

    I understand the need to give Kane some sort of weakness but an incurable and debilitating disease is not the way to go. Cancer would have been a better route since they could write a cure via chemo story. Better yet, they should have given him some other vulnerability, perhaps something that another character such as his wife could control and manipulate. Viewers either want Kane to succeed wildly or they want to see another character orchestrate his downfall. Letting nature take its course does not afford either of those scenarios and utlimately makes the show duller.

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    Daniel Montgomery
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    I just caught up with the first three episodes, and I’m surprised by how good the show is. The pilot in particular is a strong piece of writing and directing. Consider the opening scene, which hooks you instantly, focused on Kelsey Grammer’s face as he receives a terminal diagnosis. Gus Van Sant can be a touch too artsy/self-conscious with his camera (quit it with the closeups of eyeballs), but it’s a fine piece of work, with an Emmy-worthy performance by Grammer. (Grammer has one shouting scene that is dazzling, until it lasts a bit too long and feels like he’s just acting at the audience.)

    The show has a few problems. The tone is cynical to a fault. Almost every moment feels like a statement on matter-of-fact political corruption, from the overwrought bile-spewing governor to the charming young political challenger who cheats on his wife fifty feet from his kids. Luckily, as the three episodes progressed there was increased humanity, particularly in icy aide Kitty (Kathleen Robertson). You don’t have to soften the political commentary (goodness knows “The Wire” didn’t), but don’t bludgeon us with cynicism for its own sake. Also, the corruption veers a couple of times too close to Tony Soprano gangland territory: threatening and relocating the doctor, chopping off an underling’s ears and presenting them to the Mayor. Too much.

    But those are small glitches in what is generally a very good show. They can be ironed out over time. In a fall season that has been weak for new dramas, this ranks among the best ones.

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    I thought this was a good episode. I really liked the scene between Kane and Cullen. Kane really tore into Cullen and told him how he really felt about him. Kane finally told someone about his illness. He choose to tell Emma, but she still can`t forgive him for what he has done to her in the past. It should only be a matter of time now before Meredith finds out. I was a little surprised Kitty told Zajac no about meeting somewhere later. She seems to have changed her mind about how their relationship should be. I didn`t think this episode was as strong as the first two, but it was still solid.

    “Swallow”: B

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    TrendyHipster
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    Contemplating whether I should watch this. I’m already waning on Dexter, The Good Wife has been so-so, and only seen first episode of Homeland but intrigued to continue.

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    Tom O’Neil
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    Kelsey Grammer, Gus Van Sant and others will be joining us here at Gold Derby Weds night at 7:30 p.m. PT/ 10:30 p.m. ET — check out our home page where there will be a live stream of a Q&A at the TV academy that I am moderating ….

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    I thought this was an improvement over the previous episode. I liked that the supporting characters got more screentime. I thought Nielsen did a very good job. Meredith`s scene at the end with her father was great. Meredith feels so bad for what she and Kane have done to him. Kane`s relationship with Emma continues to grow. I really believe Kane is trying as hard as he can to have a good relationship with his daughter. The Kiity/Zajac affair is definately not over with. I thought Kitty might have changed her mind about how their relationship should be. I think it is great that Meredith spotted what was going on between Kitty/Zajac. Miller won`t give up with his efforts. He really wants to find concrete evidence that will expose Kane.

    “Slip”: A-  

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    Terence Ang
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    obviosuly Kelsey will be submitting the pilot….i mean the whole scene that ended with the ear thing!!!!

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