October 15, 2011 at 1:12 am #231942
If we’ve got topics for all the current shows, why not for the ones that are already finished?
Got a question. I tried watching this show. I liked the pilot, but next three episodes weren’t very funny. What’s the deal? Does this show improve at some point? Or is it just not in my taste?
Discuss.October 15, 2011 at 2:40 am #231944
Hm…well…the show didn’t get Emmy nominations until season 3. Honestly…I’d just skip the first 2 seasons and begin with season 3. (I personally love Robert’s Date…)
I really like this show. One of the best comedy ensembles in my opinion. If only Peter Doyle had won an Emmy for it though.October 15, 2011 at 5:21 am #231945
I never got the show and its actors. Never laughed once, never found the
writing and acting appealing or award-worthy. I guess it’s just not my
cup of tee. Maybe you feel similar about it.
Didn’t Patricia Heaton have short hair back in the early seasons? Man, she looked awful then.October 15, 2011 at 8:59 am #231946
this show is absolutely worth watching.October 15, 2011 at 11:06 am #231947
Everybody Loves Raymond had its great seasons and had its so-so seasons. It did not win everytime it was nominated so that would speak about the not too great seasons.
Peter Boyle was robbed and that might just be the worst thing about the show, overall. His scenes with Doris Roberts and the fighting scenes with Ray and Brad, priceless. He stayed totally true to his character of Frank Barone. I loved the episode where he won Man of The Year at the lodge and the bed scenes with Doris when he wiped her cold cream off her face. The intensity and connection that he and Doris had showed how much he did love his wife, but had a difficult time expressing himself. Phil Rosenthal should have expanded more on Doris and Peter and their amazing chemistry interacting with each other.
I don’t know if a Spin-Off show with the focus on Brad Garett and Monica Horan would have worked. Phil Rosenthal had the perfect cast with Amy’s parents and her brother and also Robert parents and his brother. Put the focus on Robert’s law enforcement career, Amy’s career, maybe a pregnancy and childbirth, Amy’s brother and his role, etc. Everybody Loves Raymond could have gone in that direction, if they wanted to. There were many stories there to tell.
I think that as the children of Ray and Debra grew, more storylines could have been developed around their characters, especially with Ally and getting into her teenage years.
It was a really good show.October 15, 2011 at 11:19 am #231948
The show was just too redundant for my taste. Ray says something stupid that offends Debra. Debra tells Ray he’s not getting any. Marie tries to run everyones’ lives then talks bad about Debra’s cooking. Frank mentions how much Marie annoys him. Robert feels underappreciated. It’s the same shit every episode. The cast was able to string together quite a few nice moments, but with the exception of a great episode here and there, it was merely a solid passing-the-time sitcom. It’s not even close to being my favorite traditional sitcom of recent years.October 15, 2011 at 11:38 am #231949
I watched the show, but I never really understood why it won so many Emmys. It was funny, but relied on the same gags for years.October 15, 2011 at 12:43 pm #231950
I never watched the show consistenly mainly because of the bad scheduling that went on here during the show’s big days. Cable networks here were a mess and premiered whenever they wanted, had a lot of reruns. In fact, Raymond’s final season aired in Latin America during ‘Til Death’s first season. Had it been online like all shows are now, it would’ve been easier to follow.
I did watch enough of this show when it was on the air and now on reruns to know that all those Emmys were very much deserved. Yes, Garrett and Roberts winning 3 and 4 Emmys is a lot, specially Garrett over Boyle for the final year, but it doesn’t mean they didn’t deserve them. I would’ve loved to see one of Roberts’ Emmys go to Catrall instead, but again, doesn’t mean she’s not deserving or that she wasn’t possibly one of the best, if not THE best submitter ever.
Their second win for Comedy Series is still one of the best decisions the Emmys have made in the sense that they didn’t get scared by Housewive’s “would’ve been obvious first season Emmy” or Arrested Developments 100% deserved second season Emmy. Instead, tapes triumphed so easily and that incredible combo they sent got them that win. I would love for AD to be a two time Comedy Series winner and I think DH had a brilliant first season, but I’m so not in the group that believes Raymond’s second Emmy was a mistake.
Romano won for a very good tape and both of Heaton’s Emmys are deserved too, as is Baggage as a Comedy Writing winner.
Georgia Engle and Fred Willard deserved their nominations, I believe Katherine Helmond was also nominated. I tend to get tired of Willard’s schtick, but an Emmy wouldn’t have been undeserved. Georgia Engle REALLY deserved to win at least once.