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  • aahoto-II
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    I do not know what you guys are smoking, but this season is on FIRE. “Chapter 58” was, quite possibly, the greatest episode of this show I have seen. Everything from the past four seasons and the dynamic of Frank vs. Claire was there. Wow. This show still has it. The writing and directing is aces. I am on “59” now, and although neither Spacey nor Wright have an episode to submit yet, there is just this feeling of foreboding suspense that is being executed ao beautifully. People not predicting this for Series are delusional. In fact, given the current political climate, I think this season is the most likely for it to WIN Series.

    Maybe at least finish the season first…

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    emmygrammyoscartony
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    #1202116235

    Well, I grant you that HORRID Elysian Fields episode was just…awful. I love that it seems Francis is going to have to answer for his past.

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    GraemeONeil
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    Just finished the season. I will say first that I’ve thought EVERY season had issues. The normal structure of their seasons would be, the first few episodes would be amazing, it would lag in the middle, then finish strong. I did feel that season 4 was their most consistent and very interesting.

    Season 5 has a lot of issues. I wouldn’t really call tediousness one of them. It’s the fact that there’s SOO many secondary subplots that aren’t properly developed, and the supporting cast isn’t as strong. The first few episodes with the election stuff is really strong, but it really starts to feel scattered and unfocused in the second half. That being said, it’s still a completely compelling, unique, and beautiful show.
    But here’s my issues…[SPOILERS]

    1. Patricia Clarkson comes out of nowhere. I get that the show needs to introduce new cast members to keep things fresh, but she literally shows up and is all of a sudden part of every crisis, every important decision. With the random job title she has, why TF is she all of a sudden here? Where has she been all this time to all of a sudden by a vital part of this adminstration? That was silly.

    2. If you kept track of WTF is going on with Neve Campbell’s character then bravo to you. I love Neve’s presence on the show, but no idea what her character was doing. Could not remember what happened with her last season to set all of this stuff up.

    3. Claire talking to the camera. Of course, we got the hint in the finale, but I didn’t think it would actually become a thing. And it seemed like it wasn’t going to become a thing. But all of a sudden, in episode 11, she turns to the camera and talks to us saying she knows we’ve been there the whole time but she’s been unsure of us. Since we’ve always thought we were Francis’ internal monologue, what are “we” now that Claire is aware of us? That’s really weird.

    4. When it comes to Francis resigning and sacrificing himself for Claire, I don’t buy that for a second. Francis and Claire have an alliance that is completely self-serving. They use each other to further themselves, and they understand that about each other. They aren’t trying to help each other out. They use their relationship to develop themselves. So I just don’t buy Francis deciding to help Claire out. The guy that we know would never do that. I mean, I love what it does for the show, and that ending “My Turn” was amazing. But I just don’t buy Francis would have done that.

    So yeah, this season provided a lot of interesting talking points, but I don’t necessarily buy them. And I do think this season was a bit of a mess in terms of its story threads. That being said, I still love this show.

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    Justmimusicmon
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    #1202117161

    Just finished the season. Definitely not one of their best seasons, but some pretty great episodes nonetheless.

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    Marcus Snowden (The Artist Formerly Known as msnowden1)
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    #1202117176

    Do you think our current political climate has hurt the show, Graeme?

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    This season is just plain boring

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    the fourth episode was actually decent. The first three were all C’s for me but the fourth was a solid B

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    JB
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    I finished the whole season last week and loved it. Each episode gets better and the final 4 episodes really pack a punch. Despite what the naysayers may think, “House of Cards” is easily getting several well deserved Emmy noms.

    Locks:
    Drama Series
    Actor (Kevin Spacey)
    Actress (Robin Wright)
    Sup Actor (Michael Kelly)

    It will be interesting to see where it may land in other acting races in this very competitive year. I’d say Patricia Clarkson has the best shot in Supporting. She’s enigmatic and brilliant in a very different kind of role. Cambpell Scott is also so good in such a subtle way, he should be considered… I’d love to see Neve Campbell (so good in the final episodes) and Joel Kinnamen (breakdown episode) get some attention in Supporting as well, but I’m not betting on it… And Paul Sparks could graduate to Supporting, especially for the latter episodes of the season too… In Guest, Kim Dickens and Gerald McRaney have a shot but not as strong as last year’s HOC contenders… And I’m sure it will return in several of the creative categories too.

    On a side note, I really hope Wright gets considered for her direction of the season finale (she’s submitted). It was so good, and honestly, she deserves to win for Best Actress for Chapter 64.

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    emmygrammyoscartony
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    I finished the season. Some thoughts:

    1.) I still think “Chapter 58” was the overall best of the season with how they brilliantly incorporated ALL of the past ghosts of the Underwoods. It was wonderfully written.

    2.) That was followed with the worst episode the show has produced. Seriously, that Elysian Fields shit will quite possibly shift this from “House of Cards” to “Desperate House-President-and-His-Wife of Cards.” It just shifted in that episode to camp and complete lack of continuation in anything relating to reality. It just…no.

    3.) This was the weakest overall season of the show. That being said and with the above in #2 being mentioned, I will not stop watching the show. HOWEVER, this should have just been a 5-season show. For the first time, I do not see any “winable” tapes for either Spacey or Wright, though the finale is the best for the latter.

    4.) The penultimate episode was high entertainment, but DAMN, how much drama can there be in one fucking episode? Really. Frank pushing Catherine? Please. With ALL of those cameras? Then, Claire with Tom. I just can’t. It was so unbelievably “Desperate Housewives” shit right there. No. I understood why she did it, but the WAY she did it? Melodrama, and not even the good kind.

    5.) Doug Stamper is a little bitch. I will say, though, that Kelly had some great stuff to work with in the final few episodes. I can see him still getting in, pretty easily.

    6.) No way that I believe Leigh Anne is dead. I did not see it happen. I refuse to believe it. This show has “jumped the shark” with moments like this. Way too convenient.

    7.) I think my biggest problem was with Claire’s breaking the fourth wall. How much more amazing would it have been for Claire to have just LOOKED at the camera in the season 4 finale and then ONLY tease us with her “looking” at the camera this season. Then, she breaks it and talks to us the first time with her amazing and impeccable delivery of the line, “My turn!”? So much more effective. My least favorite moment this season was the damn 20 seconds where she addresses us and tells us that she has known we were there but that she is impartial to us and being liked. Such bull shit. What a waste of a plot twist.

    8.) I do not buy Frank resigning for one second. With the tensions between he and Claire in the series, it was so not what Frank Underwood would do. In this game, he can only trust himself. Same with Claire. That being said, this (hopefully) last season standoff between Frank and Claire will give Spacey and Wright some amazing things in season 6. I actually thought Claire would pardon Frank for “the crimes committed during his presidency,” but so many of those ghosts and crimes (Zoe, Peter) preceded his presidency. That would have been more interesting to create more tension for those two.

    9.) It was very apparent that the show runner was not there this season. Again, as said earlier, this should have been a 5-season show. Period.

    10.) Patricia Clarkson is so damn perfect. She was, by far, the MVP of season 5 (as well as Wright’s directing). I do not know her, her intentions, or what she is thinking. With a show that has given us so many shady, shitty, and questionable characters and their motivations, she is the one with the most mystery surrounding her. That is ALL Patricia Clarkson rising above the writing and making this character so damn mysterious.

    11.) I am excited and not excited for season 6, but I do think this can win Drama Series, even with no other wins (because Spacey and Wright have NOTHING this year, imo) or nominations in directing (they submitted six and fucked up there) and writing (not happening this year).

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    Metacritic scores and Rotten Tomatoes average ratings (not the Tomatometer percentage) are usually pretty consistent, but House of Cards has a 60 on the former and a 7.3 on the latter.  There are a couple of explanations.  First is that House of Cards is peeving only the most elite critics, which bodes well for Emmy chances with a more basic set of voters.  Second is that whoever is in charge of the House of Cards page at Metacritic this year is asleep at the wheel or biased against the show by not including positive reviews from critics/publications that they normally include (and are reflected in the Rotten Tomatoes average): The A.V. Club, Collider, Matt Zoller Seitz, Brian Lowry.  Either way, the 60 looks really bad, but I think that it needs to be taken with more salt than usual for Metacritic, which only has eleven reviews for House of Cards.

    I watched the first seven episodes a few days ago and the last six tonight.  After the first seven, I did not really understand what everyone was saying about this being the weakest season.  The first couple episodes were not great, but then things picked up when the election happened.  Things were more ridiculous this season than ever before, but they get a bit of a pass because of real life.  Overall, it was about what I would expect from a fifth season of House of Cards.

    The second half of the season was much messier and does make this the weakest season of the show.  After the anticlimax of the election, the narrative direction was quite muddled.  I laughed at the show probably more than ever this year because of the ridiculousness, but it was sometimes more realistic than real life.  Damning tapes derailing a candidate comes to mind.  The last couple of episodes were interesting, but constructed around a jump-the-shark plot twist in Frank leaking details of his own crimes that nobody had so that he could give up the presidency for… real power?  What?

    Good cast, but nobody really got a tape this year.  Closest would be Joel Kinnaman.  Hard to say who would join Michael Kelly if someone does in supporting actor.  Kinnaman has the tape; Campbell Scott might have the career and role; Paul Sparks has sympathy and would be the latest in a long line of dying roles in the category.

    No idea how this season will fare at the Emmys.  Did voters miraculously watch it in time?  If they did not, it is a good thing because this was the worst season?  Or is it a bad thing because they might not have watched it because of politics fatigue?  With all of the new shows coming in and the show aging, this might be the time for the Emmys to drop it.  Or maybe it has just enough goodwill to hang on like Modern Family.

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    kancov
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    I forgot to ask earlier about the inauguration scene where the guy is waving to the camera (reference to Chapter 1). What was that about?

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    Finally finished.

    What a shame that this kept series, Spacey, and Kelley at the nominations. This season wasn’t terrible but it for sure isn’t one of the best. Wright is the only worthy-ish nominee and she really wasn’t better than a lot of people this year. She was good but there are at least 20 other actresses more worthy than her. The 11th episode, when she speaks to the audience is probably his episode. Same with Kelley since its the only episode where he does more than say yes sir and than leave. But that moment Claire spoke to us was so Awkward and random. It should’ve been the last scene.

    This whole season was way to drawn out. It wasn’t atrocious but it was the worst season. They did not need an entire half of a season to solve the election. That being said, the first half was way better than the second half, out side of the terrible Elysian Fields episode that’ll probably be Spacey’s tape. He isn’t very good anymore. The second half was so stupid. “I created this chaos”. That “twist” was so lazy and terrible writing and it was worse than the homeland season 3 twist. Patricia Clarkson was good though. Was Michael Gill submitted in guest for this or Mr. Robot?

    Season Grade: D

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    Riley
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    #1202157048

    He was campaigned for this, but was not on the ballot for either.

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    Thats stupid. He would have had a shot for both

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    Marco B.
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    This season wasn’t so bad as many of you are saying. It had many ridiculous moments, but it still was a lot of fun to watch it. And Robin Wright is magnificent; I know it’s not popular to say that here, but the fact that she’ll (probably) never receive an Emmy for her portrayal of Claire Underwood is outrageous.

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