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  • BradyPubBoy
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    1.1 “Pilot”

    Emily returns to The Hamptons, a place that is revealed to have been where she and her father spent each summer before his arrest. She rents the house of a woman named Lydia and begins to put her plan into action, but then gets sidetracked by an old friend, a potential new romance and an unwanted ally.

    I posted a quick review in the “Pilot Episode Reviews & Discussions” (on GoldDerby) thread, but I really enjoyed this. I think it has promise. Thoughts?

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    Dr. McPhearson
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    #228598

    I was wondering why the post looked so weird. I didn’t realize you were literally cutting-and-pasting our old discussion.

     

    I’ve never been one to watch primetime soap, but this pilot was better than some, and I’d like to see how it develops (with the hope that it doesn’t fall apart like I initially expected it to).

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    BradyPubBoy
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    1.2 “Trust”

    Emily sets her sights on her next target, Bill Harmon, a wealthy Wall Street hedge fund manager and former family friend who testified against her father in the trial that wrongfully convicted him. Another part of Emily’s plan is set in motion when she goes on her first date with Daniel. Also, Victoria’s suspicions about Emily grow, so she tries to find more information on her new neighbor.

    Discuss.

    I enjoyed this episode as much if not more than the pilot. I’m loving this series so far.

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    Cathy V
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    Pretty good second episode- some great gotcha moments but there were also a few times when the cheese factor made me groan a little.  Madeline Stowe is awesome.  I’m game to keep watching this one.

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    BenitoDelicias
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    I agree. This second episode was very good, pretty much in line with the Pilot and my interest is still there.

    I insist though, that it looks like this Revenge will be over in about a week, considering how she just went through person #2 in two days. Not a lot of people in that photo Emily and ABC needs the show for a few years.

     

    But what I like the most here is the cast, I think that even though there are many disposable characters (Connor Paolo’s, Emily’s friend, Victoria’s daughter and husband) and many disposable actors (the same people), everybody is working it pretty good supporting the two stars, which can’t be said about other shows this season.

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    Daniel Montgomery
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    I decided to watch this week’s episodes of “Revenge” and “Ringer” back to back because I wanted to compare and contrast the season’s high-profile primetime soaps to see what it is that makes them so different. They’re both cheesy in their plotting, yet “Revenge” is so much better as an actual show. Watching them one after the other really highlights how much more sure of its tone “Revenge” is, how much clearer its protagonist, how much more colorful and interesting the supporting characters are, how much better acted overall. Emily VanCamp gives such a satisfying, icy-calm performance, and the show’s setup couldn’t be more timely: poor girl and her father get screwed over by rich powerful interests, poor girl returns to wage some major class warfare on the residents of the Hamptons. They should really be playing that up in the marketing. Obviously, this is not a serious allegory about the class divide. It’s frivolous, vicarious fun about corrupt rich people getting cut down to size.

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    OLTLfan
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    Am I the only one getting the feeling that Daniel’s Harvard roommate is trying to get into his pants?

    I wonder if Charlotte’s father is actually Emily/Amanda’s dad. 

    “How do I tell my husband I’m sleeping with his sister” made me laugh harder than The Middle, Modern Family and South Park did last night. 

     

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    POSTCARDS_FROM_PARADISE
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    Best episode of Revenge so far in my opinion.  I never thought of that OLTLfan i wonder though if he was trying to get in Daniel’s pants wouldn’t he just try to do it when Daniel was drunk, i mean he has nor morals anyway.  Loved the revenge on Amanda’s lying scum of a therapist.

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    BenitoDelicias
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    Are you kidding me? The Harvard friend is sooo completely gay! Not only does he look gay, he deletes Emily’s calls, Daniel gets drunk and he conveniently stays sober.

    Plus the writers really outed him with the not so subtle gay porn moments: The I’m out of the shower while you’re in it? And that great line from Victoria “Make sure he sleeps face down”…yes it’s for drunk people, but common!. She could’ve said a million other things…And that “sleep tight buddy”? You leave a drunk friend however he wants to lay down when he’s drunk, you don’t roll him over…I laughed a lot watching those scenes.

    I think this show is very good, by the way. It started out as guilty pleasure, but it’s not guilty at all right now. I like that this episode was more for Emily’s own revenge and not her father’s. That picture with all his friends was starting to get a bit panoramic view, holding so many people in it for so many episodes at the rate Emily was going.

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    Spenser Davis
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    I am by no means a fan of primetime soaps. But word on this series is good enough that I thought I would go ahead and give it a shot. And, what do ya know, I actually kind of liked these first two episodes.

    Like Daniel said, the show’s concept is timely: A group of rich folk get cut down one-by-one by an innocent woman whose life was destroyed. This innocent girl finds each of their weaknesses, exploits them, and uses them for her own agenda. This is a concept that has potential to become monotonous and boring; I’m sure I’m not the only person who worried that this show could become a rich-person-of-the-week routine. And in a sense, that’s exactly what it is. In episode 1, Lydia Davis is practically exiled from the Hamptons after her affair with Conrad Greyson is revealed, and the second episode involves Bill Harmon falling victim to a financial fake-out planned by Emily/Amanda and her partner-in-crime Nolan Ross. Thankfully, that isn’t all that is going on, though.

    What makes the first episode in particular so strong, as least as far as soaps go, is its non-linear structure. That it begins with the marriage of Emily/Amanda (I’m just going to call her Emily from now on) and Daniel Greyson gives us a sense of things to come without spoiling ‘the ending,’ so-to-speak. In addition, we watch as Daniel is gunned down on the beach, and Jack Porter (who may or may not have been the shooter) attempts to hide the body. The entire sequence hooked me. Cheesy self-serious dialogue be damned, I wanted to know how everyone got to that point. Likewise, the first episode closes with a flashback to Emily getting out of prison, and Nolan meeting her outside and presenting her with her new life. I hope that the show continues to toy with time. It’s a fun approach, and it jazzes things up a bit. I also like the touch that Emily’s father David leaves her messages throughout his journal telling her not to pursue vengeance, that revenge will only lead to more harm than good. It mirrors the same narrative device used in “Sons of Anarchy,” as Jax reads his dead father’s manuscript and begins to change his way of thinking. But unlike Jax in the FX series, Emily reads her father’s journals and ignores his advice; her emotion and her thirst to see the villain be punished drives her to hatch plan after plan to ruin the lives of those who had a hand in ruining hers.

    The second episode, while not awful, was not nearly as good. For starters, there were not time-jumps, which is such a cool narrative tool that I’d hate to see it go unused. Also, the corny dialogue abounded, moreso than in the pilot. During a polo game (rich kids playing polo? A little on-the-nose), Conrad Greyson reminds Bill Harmon of “when I fired you 18 years ago.” When asked why she is looking into Emily Thorne’s past, Victoria Greyson responds, “Need I remind you of what happened with that cocktail waitress Daniel fell for last summer?” The banter of this show could be so tongue-in-cheek, so much fun, and instead, it comes across as self-serious and hokey. I hope that the writers take a breather and enjoy the ride. In addition, the dice that Bill Harmon was apparently carrying around for decades were an unnecessary character possession and came across as some sort of comic book villain gimmick. Still, there was plenty to like. We see the romance between Daniel and Emily blossom — considering that they eventually become engaged and almost married, this was to be expected. Likewise, we see Nolan and Jack start a mutual understanding, though I wouldn’t venture to call it a friendship by any means. Declan’s pursuit of Charlotte was predictable, as was Adam’s jealous. But bringing Lydia Davis back into the fold was a smart move. I hate when shows drop side characters and proceed without ever mentioning them again. That Lydia lost everything thanks to the fidelity clause in her divorce papers leaves her turning to Conrad for money, which can cause trouble in later episodes, always a good thing for viewers wondering when the steam will run out of a show. Most of all, leaving us with Jack’s father on the ground after a heart attack, possibly dead, was certainly a sign that things aren’t slowing down, which is good.

    I don’t necessarily buy right now that Emily’s father and Victoria had an affair. I’ve never lived in the Hamptons, but I doubt that they’re exactly like this show depicts, with everyone sleeping with everyone else. Plus, what would Victoria’s motivation be then to ruin the life of David Clarke?

    I’m still curious what got Emily in juvie, and who it was that shoots Daniel on the beach. But I’m glad the show, which I did not expect to like in the least, is leaving me wanting more info.

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    BenitoDelicias
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    There’s still a lot of this show to explore which has become clear in recent episodes. And with these last two episodes being just as good while not focusing on a specific revenge from Emily, I guess they shut my mouth and the show could go on longer than I had anticipated.

    I’m liking this very very much, one of the top 5 shows of the new season easily. The cast is a huge reason for this, both Vancamp and specially Stowe have proven to be able to carry this show on themselves, but now the supporting cast which looked a little too CW, Kevin Williamson, too soapy for my taste, is turning out quite good. Not a bad performance in the bunch.

    I like that my obvious prediction that Daniel’s friend (Tyler is it?) is gay came true with this episode. I have a friend who suspects that he’s the one who ends up killing Daniel during the engagement party in the Pilot. I see it as a huge possibility now. 

    I also thought Lydia wasn’t dead considering how the scene played out, she was still alive on top of the taxi. I was enjoying Amber Valetta in this very much and I suspect that in the end, she’ll be on Emily’s side, one of the few people that I can see doing that.

    Did the show get a full season order? I hope it did/does.  

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    Cathy V
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    I’m continuing to enjoy the heck out of this show- love the addition of the real Emily Thorne.  Now, if only someone would get rid of that annoying Declan (not even the character, but the actor is soooo bad), the show would be perfect!

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    Watched this week’s episode to see what the hype was about. As a fan of soap operas, I did like that it embraces its soapiness (that Victoria, soap name cliche, is a mess lmao!). 

    W/Emily VanCamp as the lead, I could not buy w/all of the promos, but seeing her in action she’s pretty good at playing a soap vixen (though those flashbacks w/Emily and Amanda in juvie were laughable). 

    Not appointment television, but I am glad that it is a hit for the network and that ppl are liking the soapy nature of it so much. It proves the logic of soaps being dead wrong, if the effort to make a strong prouct to put of there is there. 

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    POSTCARDS_FROM_PARADISE
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    All caught up on my revenge, I hope Nolan and Emily start working together again soon. Thought i would be sick of it by now but once the episode was over I wanted more. Emily Van Kamp definetely deserves alot of recognition for how successful this show is.

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    I really have to say this is one of my favorite shows this season. It’s probably the most well produced primetime soap since “Melrose Place”, and the writers to a pretty good job of keeping the continuity of each character going, while allowing the plot’s to develop at rapid pace.     Unlike, say, “Desperate Housewives” where characters change tone and intention each episode, this shows characters are well defined.   I love that they have moved beyond the “revenge of the week” idea and allowed the plots to grow beyond that.  

     

    The only stories not connecting with me is the boring stuff with Declan and Charlotte, that stuff seems more appropriate for The CW or ABC Family.   But overall I like the show.

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