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  • Guest2014
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    #363574

    They’re part of this afternoon’s Warner Bros. TV Takeover of New York Comic Con.  Update here:

    http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/nycc-wbtv-takeover-gotham-legends-of-tomorrow-blindspot-supergirl-and-person-of-interest 

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    KyleBailey
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    #363576

    I’m interested in this. Don’t know if it will work because Superman is a boring superhero so let’s see if Supergirl will make the world more interesting. 

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    DamianWayne
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    (try and boycott THIS one, GoldDerby)

    Could you be any more childish?

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    Halo_Insider
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    Jesus, Paul.

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    BenitoDelicias
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    I wonder why Paul is a fan of this one? Kristen Bell is not here. Nobody is Canadian either. Those seem to be the only reasons why he likes things. I think he’s just a huge Superman fan, wasn’t he the one ruining the Man of Steel with the other guy?

    Anyway, have you guys seen the Pilot? It leaked months ago, I’ve mentioned this on other threads. It was nice. Nothing too amazing, but nothing too bad except for maybe Calista Flockhart who really tried way too hard and didn’t come out very good.

    Nobody would “boycott” this, but I doubt anybody has any real interest in watching. Unless it becomes a hit and curiousity brings people to it. 

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    Guest2014
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    [quote](try and boycott THIS one, GoldDerby)

    Could you be any more childish?
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    There’s precedent.  Gold Derby posters have boycotted the Continuum thread the past 3 years, and that’s FACT, merely because of the one who started each season’s thread. That’s not in dispute. Name another show that has received 70 nominations and 20 wins from various awards organizations in its run that has not been commented on ONCE by anyone else on this board.  Name ONE show that has had the kind of success Continuum has had and there’s been a concerted effort to ignore it the way this show has been ignored.  

    Point made, thread title changed.  

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    BTN
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    Definitely going to be worth at Least one sample.

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    Tyler The Awesome Guy
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    #363582

    Supergirl in and of itself is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard.

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    First review in: http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-melissa-benoist-soars-as-supergirl-in-fun-new-cbs-series

    “I feel like I’m not living up to
    my potential,” Kara admits to her sister Alex. “I have the
    same powers he does! I can lift a bus, stop a bullet. Alex, I can
    fly!”

     

    The “he” is Superman, Kara’s
    celebrated cousin. Like Kara — (slightly) better known as
    “Supergirl,” and now the star of her own TV series (it
    debuts Monday at 8:30 on CBS) — points out, they come from the same
    planet, and have the same powers, but he’s an icon and she never
    seems to find her place.

     

    That line about squandered potential
    could just as easily be applied to many of the writers responsible
    for crafting Kara’s adventures over the years, going back to her
    comic book debut in 1959. Despite being Superman’s equal,
    strength-wise, the “girl” in her name was treated as doubly
    diminutive. Superman was there to save the world, Supergirl was there
    to have boy trouble, including that one weird story where her beloved
    superhorse Comet turned into a man and dated her(*). If there was a
    definitive Supergirl story, it was either the terrible 1984 film with
    Helen Slater(**) or the 1985 issue of “Crisis On Infinite
    Earths” where she died. Every now and then, someone figures out
    how to properly use her (like the ’90s animated version, even
    factoring in the belly shirt), but for the most part, the idea of
    Supergirl has far exceeded the reality of Supergirl.

     

    (*) “We will not do bestiality for
    Supergirl,” promised one of the show’s producers, in an
    interview that also covers whether the Superman referenced in the
    show is meant to be Henry Cavill’s version or not, why it would be
    complicated to have her cross over with DC’s other superhero TV
    shows, and more.

     

    (**) In a nod to the history of both
    super-powered cousins, Slater and “Lois & Clark” star
    Dean Cain play Kara’s adoptive human parents.

     

    This new version, developed by Ali
    Adler and also executive produced by “Arrow” and “Flash”
    veterans Greg Berlanti, Andrew Kreisberg, and Sarah Schechter, nimbly
    tackles that problem head-on. In the pilot episode, at least (CBS
    declined to make additional episodes available until after the
    premiere), it’s a fun riff on the many things these two survivors of
    the planet Krypton have in common, and the challenge she has of
    living in his shadow.

     

    The series even tweaks the origin of
    Kara (played here by Melissa Benoist from “Glee”) to make
    this even more of the point. In most versions of her story, Kara is
    Superman’s younger cousin, who turns up on Earth only after he’s been
    here awhile, and who needs his protection and mentorship. Here, she
    starts out older, and is being sent to Earth at the same time as him
    specifically to be her baby cousin’s bodyguard until he can fully
    grow into his powers. But her ship gets knocked off course, and she
    doesn’t arrive at her final destination (not having aged at all,
    thanks to the usual timey-wimey comic book science) until he’s an
    adult who’s already made his costumed debut.

     

    “Even though I had all the same
    powers he did, I decided the best thing I could do was fit in,”
    she explains, echoing the choices many girls and women are socially
    conditioned to make, rather than to demonstrate their own strengths.

     

    She does follow her cousin into the
    newspaper world, but on a lower level, winding up as assistant to
    National City media mogul Cat Grant (Calista Flockhart), mostly
    fetching coffee, and hiding behind a pair of mousy spectacles. (It’s
    a wink to Clark Kent, but the pilot still manages to do a version of
    the old, “Why, without your glasses, you’re beautiful!”
    gag.) Then a plane carrying adoptive sister Alex (Chyler Leigh) is
    about to crash, and Kara gets to make like Superman and debut saving
    a falling aircraft.

     

    It’s an exciting sequence, and one the
    pilot wisely doesn’t waste time getting to. Instead, the bulk of the
    premiere is devoted to Kara fine-tuning her new heroic identity —
    there’s a fashion montage of sorts, but all involving her and work
    confidante Winn (Jeremy Jordan) sort through the practical realities
    of a costume for someone who can fly and is bullet-proof — and then
    discovering that she and Superman aren’t the only aliens on planet
    Earth, and the others aren’t nearly as nice.

     

    Benoist occasionally overdoes Kara’s
    nerdy side (though you could argue that it’s Kara overdoing it so no
    one sees through the secret identity), but on the whole hits the
    right balance between exuberance at what she can do now that she’s
    stopped hiding, and tentativeness at having to be responsible for
    protecting an entire city, and possibly an entire world. Between
    Stephen Amell on “Arrow” and Grant Gustin on “The
    Flash,” Berlanti’s casting people know what they’re doing when
    it comes to picking out plausible superhero stars.

     

    Though Superman appears briefly just
    out of frame in one scene, and as a blurry photo in another, the show
    never mentions him by name, always referring to him as “he”
    or “your cousin.” Whether that’s editorial fiat from DC
    Comics, or the creative team’s own choice to emphasize that this is
    Supergirl’s story, it ultimately becomes more distracting than if
    people were allowed to actually say the name now and then.

     

     

     

    But if that decision seems more trouble
    than it’s worth, the “Supergirl” pilot is smart in tackling
    other parts of the mythology, starting with the heroine’s own name.
    In this version, Cat Grant coins it, and Adler gives Flockhart —
    who, a generation ago, was a very different kind of female icon as
    Ally McBeal — a sharp monologue about why the word “girl”
    shouldn’t be a pejorative:

     

    “What do you think is so bad about
    ‘girl’? I’m a girl, and your boss, and powerful, and rich, and hot,
    and smart. So if you perceive ‘Supergirl’ as anything less than
    excellent, isn’t the real problem you?”

     

    The pilot doesn’t try to hide its
    aspirations — at one point, a truck stop waitress observes, “Can
    you believe it? A female hero. Nice for my daughter to have someone
    to look up to.” — and mostly finds a happy medium between
    being a show little girls can watch and one adults will find
    thrilling. The alien villains lean more towards the latter, but while
    they might be intense for young kids, the show’s not ultra-violent
    and for now, at least, there are only the vaguest intimations of a
    love triangle involving Kara, Winn, and Mehcad Brooks as an older,
    handsomer, more confident version of Jimmy Olsen who prefers to go by
    James these days. The tone isn’t the bleak, grey one of Zack Snyder’s
    superhero movies, but something more closely resembling the classic
    Richard Donner Superman films, which is a good match of style and
    character.

     

    By the time of the climactic fight with
    Vartox (who unfortunately has updated his wardrobe from his ’70s
    comic book introduction), the show is really hammering home its
    themes of underestimation, where Supergirl’s new military liaison
    Hank Henshaw (David Harewood) suggests she’s not strong enough to
    win, prompting Alex to ask, “Why? Because she’s just a girl?”
    But Benoist is appealing enough, and the action sequences impressive
    enough, that the show gets away with the lack of subtlety. It’s a
    competent superhero show made by people who’ve been doing this a
    while (even though Adler’s new to the DC TV universe, she wrote for
    “Chuck” and co-created “No Ordinary Family” with
    Berlanti) and have gotten better at it with each new stage of things.

     

    Besides, subtlety seems a bit besides
    the point when you wear a red cape and a blue costume with a giant S
    on your chest — whether you’re Superman or this winning version of
    Supergirl.
     

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    #363585

    Episode
    1.1: Pilot
    Written
    by Greg Berlanti, Andrew Kreisberg and Ali Adler; directed by Glen
    Winter

    At
    24, Kara Zor-El, Superman’s cousin, decides the time has come to
    embrace her superhuman abilities and fulfill her destiny as a hero in
    the series premiere of the drama based on the DC Comics character.

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    I wonder why Paul is a fan of this one? Kristen Bell is not here. Nobody is Canadian either. Those seem to be the only reasons why he likes things. I think he’s just a huge Superman fan, wasn’t he the one ruining the Man of Steel with the other guy?

    Anyway, have you guys seen the Pilot? It leaked months ago, I’ve mentioned this on other threads. It was nice. Nothing too amazing, but nothing too bad except for maybe Calista Flockhart who really tried way too hard and didn’t come out very good.

    Nobody would “boycott” this, but I doubt anybody has any real interest in watching. Unless it becomes a hit and curiousity brings people to it. 

    Yeah, color me confused as to why the OP is interested in this show or why they even started a thread for it.  I kind of thought after Continuum ended this poster would just go away and stop trolling these boards.  Now I wonder if they will continually bombard and troll these boards with endless posts for this show as well.

    And like you said above, I doubt anyone is going to “boycott” this thread or the show, but I do not get the feeling many people are dying to watch this show either.  Outside of the few die-hard, Supergirl fangirls/boys, I am not sure what the audience for this show is.  I am sure there are some people who may want to watch a tale of an empowered woman, but feminist good-will can only carry a show for so long.  Considering I have never really been a fan of Superman, I have zero interest or desire to check this out.  Not to mention after the deluge of superheroes we have seen these past 8-10 years I have tired on the genre.

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    76 at Metacritic with 19 reviews.

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    Entertainment Weekly review:  http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/25/supergirl-ew-review

    And this projectile vomiting from ESPNFAN:   “Yeah, color me confused as to why the OP is interested in this show or why they even started a thread for it.  I kind of thought after Continuum ended this poster would just go away and stop trolling these boards.  Now I wonder if they will continually bombard and troll these boards with endless posts for this show as well.

    And like you said above, I doubt anyone is going to “boycott” this thread or the show, but I do not get the feeling many people are dying to watch this show either.  Outside of the few die-hard, Supergirl fangirls/boys, I am not sure what the audience for this show is.  I am sure there are some people who may want to watch a tale of an empowered woman, but feminist good-will can only carry a show for so long.  Considering I have never really been a fan of Superman, I have zero interest or desire to check this out.  Not to mention after the deluge of superheroes we have seen these past 8-10 years I have tired on the genre.”

    I was all set to leave Gold Derby after Continuum was over with, then this horse-s post happened from one of the leaders of the boycott of the Continuum message topic.  I have every right, you poster boy for pro-choice, to endorse a favorite show of mine by creating a topic for it, just as much as you have an equal right of creating your topics.   I don’t consider anyone who creates a season topic for a show “trolling these boards”.  

    ESPNFAN, if you don’t like me posting stuff to Gold Derby, then ignore me.  As I will do with you from now on.  I have a high threshold of tolerance even for the dopes on here like yourself. Thanks to you, I will remain on GD just to spite you and your ilk, then.   You were this close to getting rid of me, and then you had to ruin it all. 

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    #363589

    Fall TV could really use a hero.

    The latest ratings for the season have
    ABC down 13 percent, The CW down 10 percent, Fox down 6 percent, NBC
    down 5 percent, and CBS down 3 percent. Those figures are among total
    viewers, and if you look at the key adults 18-49 demographic, the
    percentage drops are even steeper.

    Monday, CBS’ Supergirl will
    premiere with a lead-in from the The Big Bang Theory (the closest
    thing to a bona fide super power on the broadcast schedule among
    entertainment shows).  

    Among industry polling in recent
    months, Supergirl has long tracked as one of the biggest potential
    draws this season and represents the last best chance for this fall
    to deliver a true break-out hit. Could the DC Comics-inspired series
    starring Melissa Benoist be the show the industry has been waiting
    for? Could Supergirl be a title that truly distinguishes itself among
    the recent weeks of ratings results for new shows that range from
    “You know, that’s really not too bad” to “Ahh! Where’s the
    fire extinguisher?!”

    Industry ratings prognosticators are
    all over the place for Supergirl, with their predictions ranging from
    a sad-trombone-given-the-hype 2.8 in the demo to a heroic
    Empire-esque 4.5. Granted, the pilot has been on BitTorrrent since
    leaking last May, but a similar leak only seemed to help The CW’s
    The Flash debut last year (and really, how many CBS viewers are
    browsing PirateBay?).

    Since Supergirl is a semi-serialized
    superhero show on traditional crime procedural-heavy CBS, it’s also
    worth pointing out that the real test will be whether an audience
    sticks around in the weeks to come.  In any case, a single hourlong drama
    like Supergirl cannot really rescue a fall.

    But it would be nice to
    see (and it sure couldn’t hurt).

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