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  • Icky
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    Overrated and Underrated are not synonyms for divisive.

    OVERRATED

    30 Rock:

    “Rosemary’s Baby” (season two)- Yes, I appreciated Jack’s therapy session and that’s about all it has to offer. That’s not enough compared to some of the most thoroughly clever episodes. Not a legit best-of installment.

    Arrested Development:

    “Motherboy XXX” (season two)- Not one of the most clever or funny or surprising or moving episodes of the show. Yet, it constantly gets mentioned as one of its best.

    “Blockheads” (season four)- People who love it love it ’cause it’s the last episode, right? Otherwise, I don’t get it. The Gob installments of season 4 are the only ones that thoroughly clicked. But this might be the worst episode of the season.

    Buffy the Vampire Slayer:

    “The Zeppo” (season three)- Often sighted as the funniest episode of the series. It’s a cute, meta set-up. But all it is a set-up. The premise isn’t taken nearly as far as it could have gone. Later shows like Community did it better. And I guess you have to be a big fan of Xander to appreciate it. I never was.

    “Graduation Day” (season three)- A good, not great part 1 and an overly talky, eventually silly part 2.

    Curb Your Enthusiasm:

    “Seinfeld” (season seven)- “The Table Read” really worked for me. They should have ended that arc and the season right there.

    The Sopranos:

    “Employee of the Month” (season three)- Season 3 may have been the most tonally and morally interesting season of the show until 6b and this episode was a part of that. But it’s not one of its very best. Bracco’s performance is wobbly. The plotting is too convenient. And you simply don’t have a main character get raped and pretend it didn’t happen in succeeding episodes.

    “Whitecaps” (season four)- For the 20 minutes Falco and Gandolfini yell at one another it’s exciting, cathartic stuff. But there’s nearly 50 minutes of other stuff that’s barely interesting. Hardly worthy of some claiming it’s the best installment of the series.

    Mad Men:

    “The Grown Ups” (season three)- One of the more awkwardly acted/directed/edited episodes of the show that Betty haters seem to particularly admire. I don’t know what was going on in season three but about half of the episodes suffer from too many weird pauses, rushed subplots and odd line delivery, this one especially.

    “The Suitcase” (season four)- I spent almost an entire year railing on this episode and I still feel the same way. Hamm did not deserve to win for his borderline creaky performance (compared to his legit best performances on the series, which does not include the one he actually won for). It’s also an episode that seems like it should have taken place later or earlier in the series run.

    UNDERRATED

    Friday Night Lights:

    “Eyes Wide Open” (season one)- Airing directly after the pretty good pilot led to it’s underrated status. It stands on it’s own as one of the most quietly heartbreaking episodes of the series. Easily a top five episode of the show for me.

    The Sopranos:

    “From Where to Eternity” (season 2)- Rarely is cited as one of the ten best episodes, which it definitely is. It’s perfectly paced, full of tension and is a peak episode as far as combining tragedy with humor.

    “The Second Opinion” (season three)- Better than many of season three’s more acclaimed/talked about episodes (Employee of the Month, University, perhaps Amour Fou). It’s the most subtly well done episode in a season with many episodes that have gotten better with time.

    I’ll flesh out the rest of the under’s later.

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    I had never heard of anyone liking “Blockheads” because it was such an underwhelming finale, but it is the third-highest of the season on IMDb. It has been too long since I saw “Motherboy XXX” to remember if it was actually good.

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    I’ll do my two favourite recent shows:
    Underrated: Hannibal- ‘Antipasto’ (3×01). To me, this was the best episode of television I watched in 2015. The visuals were astounding for a network show, the score was perfectly unsettling, the dialogue – while admittedly ostentatious – was very carefully constructed, and Gillian Anderson’s performance was incredible. And this is coming from someone who was not impressed with the Europe arc from episodes 2-5. It just proves that when Hannibal uses its art direction and sound right, being over-the-top can have an amazing outcome (further proved by the ‘red dragon’ arc 3×08-3×13).

    Overrated: The Leftovers- ‘International Assassin’(2×08). This was widely regarded as the best episode of the year, but for me it’s not even in the top 5 ofThe Leftovers’ best episodes. I would put it down to me being more invested in the character-drama of episodes like Offramp/Ten Thirteen etc, but some of the tonal shifts within the episode didn’t sit right with me, and the preachy surrealism was overdone. The episode’s best features were the performances of Dowd and Theroux.

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    Veep’s Camp David for me in the “underrated” session. I couldn’t believe how many fans of the show dismissed it as a “filler”. It’s a tremendous piece of comedy.

    As for overrated… How many of you will kill me if I say Ozymandias?

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    Icky
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    It’s a top five episode of BB for me. I don’t see it as far and away the best episode of the show and one of the very best episodes of TV like some. But I like it too much to say it’s overrated. I just don’t rate it quite as high as many.

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    Teridax
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    Overrated:

    Game of Thrones- “Hardhome” The stuff with Tyrion (still don’t know how Dinklage won the Emmy over Kelly, Mendelsohn, and especially Banks for this) and Dany is really great as fan service and decently executed. The action sequence at the end was easily the highlight of Season 5, but Season 5 sucked, so that comes off as faint praise when you have such a low bar! I don’t get how people said this was the best of the series. The best of S5? Obviously, I believe. Most episodes of Season 4 were better than this, especially “First of His Name”, “The Laws of Gods and Men,” “The Mockingbird and the Viper,” “The Watchers On The Wall,” and the grand finale “The Children”, the latter of which Alex Graves was criminally snubbed of a Directing Emmy nomination! Still really well done overall, a significant improvement for Miguel Sapochnik over his previous first episode “The Gift”, an episode only memorable for Cersei’s arc throughout it. But one of the series best episodes? Doubtful. Hardhome= The definition of overrated, for me anyway.

    Steven Universe- “Beach City Drift” I actually don’t know how many fans loved this episode, the last minute and note it ended on was really cute, but I have no idea why Rebecca Sugar said this was one of her favorite episodes. As a diehard fan of the show, I don’t think it would make my personal Top 50 episodes, honestly. They brought back a character from Season 1 who was so unmemorable I had to research what episode he appeared in (it was “Alone Together”), to find out whether he was a new character or not. This felt like an episode that should have been dealt with in Season 1, by dropping him in the middle of the 3rd freaking season why I’d completely forgotten about his existence, his becoming the antagonist the heroes have to defeat felt rushed and random. The entire episode I was screaming, “Who the f**k is Kevin, and what the heck did he do to piss off Connie and Steven? How do they know him?!” I would have just made the antagonist a new character to avoid confusion, that for me was caused by bringing back this one-off character from S1 that was never brought back and far as I can remember never even simply referenced again. And this is Steven Universe, my #1 favorite show of all time, so you can bet I remember pretty damn well!

    Steven Universe- “Say Uncle” One of the worst. crossovers. EVER. Okaaaaaaaayyy… let’s talk about this thing. Why not cross over with something smart like Adventure Time, which Rebecca Sugar was a writer for before she left to create Steven Universe! It could have been amazing, a melding of 2 different worlds brought together by a shared voice, Rebecca Sugar. Seriously, even Regular Show would have made more sense, since that show seems to have actually well-written plots that have effort put into them, with good characters no less! WHY UNCLE GRANDPA?!?!?! It’s the series lowest rating episode on IMDB for good reason, but even it’s 6.1 rating feels too high. Steven Universe’s brilliant creator/showrunner Rebecca Sugar loved this episode, and I respectfully completely disagree with every fiber of my being. The nuance and depth of Steven Universe is obliterated for 11 painful minutes of this wretched and annoying episode, it’s just so freaking stupid! I will literally always tell people when I recommend Steven Universe, “watch every episode except Say Uncle.” The rest range from spectacular to great to good to just merely serviceable (Here’s looking at you “Kiki’s Pizza Delivery Service” and to a lesser extent “Beach City Drift”) with the exception so far of this one terrible episode. It apparently isn’t canon with the rest of the series, so that should make it extraordinarily easier to outright skip as I passionately suggest doing.

    Having never been a fan of Uncle Grandpa, I decided to come into it with an open mind and give it a shot. But you know what the problem was? The biggest one for me, the one that killed it, is that there was just no heart. One of the most distinguishable parts of Steven Universe is its sweetness, maturity, and emotional realism. Yes, they’ve had sillier episodes, like “Hit the Diamond” for example, but there’s always some sense of a genuine emotional core and/or character arc, even if it’s on rare occasion a character(s) that isn’t very interesting. A lot of other shows, especially kids shows, seem to be pandering to the lowest common denominator in terms of idiocy and even still today lots and lots of toilet humor.

    Now don’t get me wrong, I loved Captain Underpants as a kid, I went through that “farts are funny” phase myself, but the #1 thing that makes Steven Universe stand out in the field of literally every other show on Television, is that it’s not only a show primarily aimed at children dealing in great depth with LGBTQ themes, the process of grieving over departed loved ones, has incredibly beautiful and well-written songs, that adults can also appreciate the maturity, world-building, layered and wise morals, and astonishing attention paid to believable character development. Going back to the LGBTQ themes, one of the characters, a female gem named Garnet is a fusion of 2 female gems Ruby and Sapphire. How many other shows have a lesbian couple in a loving, healthy relationship as a main character, that’s also my personal favorite character, I would add! All of those reasons for why I love the show for it’s truly extraordinary vision and soul is why I hate “Uncle Grandpa” more than any other episode of the show. Because for those 11 minutes, Steven Universe became just another dumb kids show, it went from being a (pun intended) diamond in the rough to just another grain of sand on a beach full of them. It’s the series lowest rating episode on IMDB for good reason, but even it’s 6.1 rating feels too high.

    Underrated:

    South Park- “The Coon Trilogy” For me, these 3 episodes are the shows funniest by far, it has everything, we find out how Kenny keeps coming back after he keeps getting killed, Cartman makes friends with Cthulu, Cthulu kills Justin Bieber, they make fun of BP’s excuses and pathetic “sorry” following their oil spill, EVERYTHING!!!! Captain Hindsight was a clever idea and very well done!!! I find it underrated in the sense that whenever I hear people talk about South Park’s best episodes, this one never gets brought up. Now, I thought “Scott Tenorman Must Die” was hilarious, but mostly for the infamous twist at the end. “Make Love, Not Warcraft” was a funny satire of the fandom and “Osama Bin Laden Has Farty Pants” was Trey and Matt and their most admirably, defiantly immature, especially seeing as how the episode came out just a few months after 9/11 happened. But the Coon trilogy has great character development, great use of pop culture references, great social satire, and most importantly for any comedy show, really great laughs. This for me is the best and most consistently well-done episode (or episodes seeing how even though its a single storyline, there’s 3 of them) South Park has ever done, and I don’t know why it doesn’t get more credit and acclaim.

    American Dad- “Hayley Smith: Seal Team Six” The plot of the episode is that Hayley, known by all her family for being rude and grumpy, gets hypnotherapy from Doctor Penguin to take her back to being “Happy Hayley” when she 6 years old so she can figure out what happened that changed her. Unfortunately, she accidentally stuck in deep hypnotic regression thinking she is 6 years old, so Jeff tries to bring his hypnotized wife back to normal, while the rest of the family is just happy to have “Happy Hayley” back! You get the return of Roger’s Dr. Penguin persona, Dr. Penguin hypnotizing the jury “You are finding Jeff not guilty, as you stare at the watch you are finding Jeff less and less guilty”, the subplot with Steve and his friends trying to make the “Ultimate Pork” with a slow-cooker was very well-paced with payoff so hilarious and silly and fell out of my chair from laughing and crying so hard, and there’s a great couple of lines from Klaus the fish when he is trying to escape a seal that’s trying to eat him, “Come on, time to evolve.” He clearly wants to grow arms and/or legs so he can crawl or walk away to safety, instead a single feather sprouts from his head. Pissed, he exclaims, “Not that kind of evolution!” Plus Jeff trying to get his wife Hayley back to her old self again was really cute. Not a false note in this one, for me anyway. All hits, no real misses. Like South Park’s “Coon Trilogy” this is easily at least one of the series’ best and most consistently funny episodes ever, and I feel too often it gets lost in the shuffle with all the other great episodes the show has done.

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    Veep’s Camp David for me in the “underrated” session. I couldn’t believe how many fans of the show dismissed it as a “filler”. It’s a tremendous piece of comedy.

    As for overrated… How many of you will kill me if I say Ozymandias?

    I too loved “Camp David!” High five! I honestly didn’t think there was a single meh, okay, or filler episode. Every story was well-paced and had purpose, even if it was for a joke, Veep is a comedy. It’s job is to make you laugh, and for me it did that more consistently than any season of any comedy show in recent memory.

    I certainly won’t kill you for saying “Ozymendias”, but why and how did you find it overrated exactly? I’m waiting to see Breaking Bad until after I’m done with Better Call Saul, but I’m curious to hear your apparently unenthusiastic opinion of what’s supposed to be the series best episode.

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    Marco B.
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    I’ll do my two favourite recent shows:
    Underrated: Hannibal- ‘Antipasto’ (3×01). To me, this was the best episode of television I watched in 2015. The visuals were astounding for a network show, the score was perfectly unsettling, the dialogue – while admittedly ostentatious – was very carefully constructed, and Gillian Anderson’s performance was incredible. And this is coming from someone who was not impressed with the Europe arc from episodes 2-5. It just proves that when Hannibal uses its art direction and sound right, being over-the-top can have an amazing outcome (further proved by the ‘red dragon’ arc 3×08-3×13).

    Totally agree with that. I won’t add anything about Antipasto, because you said everything perfectly.

    To give a natural continuation to your comment, I would say that the second episode, Primavera, is overrated. I mean, its IMDB rating is 8.5, one of the lowest, okay, but Antipasto is only 8.6, incredible. Also, I might be mistaken but I remember Indiewire giving an A to Primavera. Almost everything of it did not worked: the writing was simply so poor and weak. There were a couple of interesting things, but overall it’s the worst Hannibal episode ever aired imo. I’d give 6-/10, and I’m being generous.

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    Icky
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    “Hardhome” is about as great as GoT gets. The last ten minutes is still the best action that series has had to offer. What came before that sequence was merely good enough. But GoT doesn’t have any top to bottom great episodes. “Hardhome” is pretty close. It stands out not just from season five but the entire series and towers over all those decent season four episodes.

    OVERRATED

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    “Critical Film Studies” (season two)- I don’t completely agree with the adoration of season 2 in general. Is it the best overall season, maybe. But it’s not as consistent as season one, not as fun as season three at its best and has some seriously overrated episodes, particularly this one. Apparently, adding some sentimentality to the show’s usual acerbic irony made it instantly great in fans’ eyes.

    Roseanne

    “Stash From the Past” (season six)- Okay, they get high and it’s funny. But when I think of this show’s absolute best episodes there’s tension, honest humor, many good one-liners. This one joke episode is funny enough but it’s not the type of episode that made this show special.

    Six Feet Under:

    “Everyone’s Waiting” (season five)- Okay, I’m dipping into some shows that I’m not particularly big fans of. But this finale’s supposed greatness was always overblown. And while the show itself hasn’t aged all that well the finale especially has gotten lame with time. And frankly, it leads to underrating what really are truly the final season’s best offerings: “All Alone” and “Ecotone”.

    UNDERRATED

    Mad Men:

    “Nixon VS Kennedy” (season one)- Still my favorite episode of the series. Yet, no one else ever seems to mention it as one of show’s best. One of the problems with a show like Mad Men, something that becomes more talked about and watched in its latter seasons, is that people forget the quality that came before its popularity peaked. This remained the most important, cleverest episode of the show for its whole run.

    “The New Girl” (season two)- I tend to like episodes of shows that start in one place and veer in an entirely different direction. It appears this got underrated due to the audience’s exhaustion with Bobbie Barrett. But it’s probably the stand out episode from that season.

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    Riley
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    “Ozymandias” is underrated in this thread.

    One of the problems with a show like Mad Men, something that becomes more talked about and watched in its latter seasons, is that people forget the quality that came before its popularity peaked.

    I have noticed this with Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad.

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    Icky
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    It’s time to contribute something Riley (so I can argue against it).

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    Veep’s Camp David for me in the “underrated” session. I couldn’t believe how many fans of the show dismissed it as a “filler”. It’s a tremendous piece of comedy.

    As for overrated… How many of you will kill me if I say Ozymandias?

    I too loved “Camp David!” High five! I honestly didn’t think there was a single meh, okay, or filler episode. Every story was well-paced and had purpose, even if it was for a joke, Veep is a comedy. It’s job is to make you laugh, and for me it did that more consistently than any season of any comedy show in recent memory.

    I certainly won’t kill you for saying “Ozymendias”, but why and how did you find it overrated exactly? I’m waiting to see Breaking Bad until after I’m done with Better Call Saul, but I’m curious to hear your apparently unenthusiastic opinion of what’s supposed to be the series best episode.

    It’s a good episode, but the raving is just too much. The second half of that episode should’ve been re-written.

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    Off the top of my head, the BoJack Horseman episode “Fish Out of Water” was pretty gimmicky and boring.

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    I didn’t quite get the hype over Curb Your Enthusiasm‘s “Palestinian Chicken.”

    OSCAR FLASHBACK: Best Original Song (1994) – The Lion King Rules the Oscars

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    “Hardhome” is about as great as GoT gets. The last ten minutes is still the best action that series has had to offer. What came before that sequence was merely good enough. But GoT doesn’t have any top to bottom great episodes. “Hardhome” is pretty close. It stands out not just from season five but the entire series and towers over all those decent season four episodes.

    OVERRATED

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    “Critical Film Studies” (season two)- I don’t completely agree with the adoration of season 2 in general. Is it the best overall season, maybe. But it’s not as consistent as season one, not as fun as season three at its best and has some seriously overrated episodes, particularly this one. Apparently, adding some sentimentality to the show’s usual acerbic irony made it instantly great in fans’ eyes.

    Roseanne

    “Stash From the Past” (season six)- Okay, they get high and it’s funny. But when I think of this show’s absolute best episodes there’s tension, honest humor, many good one-liners. This one joke episode is funny enough but it’s not the type of episode that made this show special.

    <em>Six Feet Under:

    “Everyone’s Waiting” (season five)- Okay, I’m dipping into some shows that I’m not particularly big fans of. But this finale’s supposed greatness was always overblown. And while the show itself hasn’t aged all that well the finale especially has gotten lame with time. And frankly, it leads to underrating what really are truly the final season’s best offerings: “All Alone” and “Ecotone”.

    UNDERRATED

    Mad Men:

    “Nixon VS Kennedy” (season one)- Still my favorite episode of the series. Yet, no one else ever seems to mention it as one of show’s best. One of the problems with a show like Mad Men, something that becomes more talked about and watched in its latter seasons, is that people forget the quality that came before its popularity peaked. This remained the most important, cleverest episode of the show for its whole run.

    “The New Girl” (season two)- I tend to like episodes of shows that start in one place and veer in an entirely different direction. It appears this got underrated due to the audience’s exhaustion with Bobbie Barrett. But it’s probably the stand out episode from that season.

    Trying to lure robpop back in?

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