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  • Sab227
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    #284875

    Raising Hope is a fantastic show and has gotten a little bit of Emmy love, but do you guys think it deserves more recognition than it gets? Personally I do because its a great comedy with great writng, directing, and especially acting.

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    Daniel Montgomery
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    I really liked the show in seasons one and two and would have liked to see it get more recognition, but I thought season three was really hit-and-miss. The actors are consistently good, but at times the material just wasn’t there.

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    nahborghi
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    I felt a huge difference in quality from season 1 to season 2 and 3. There were still great episodes (“Candy War”, with a Breaking Bad parody is one of my absolutely favorite episodes of the show) and the actors are great, but I’m not as found of the show as I was in their first year.

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    vinny
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    first year was a 10/10
    second year was a solid 9/10
    third year was odd. 6/10  

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    Icky
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    It’s a mini shame Plimpton will never get another Emmy nod for this show yet alone a win. Damn, she should won for the first season. I’ll keep watching, but the enthusiasm I had for the first two seasons, which very much deserved series nods, isn’t there any longer.

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    Karl William
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    I think that Jimmy’s Fake Girlfriend was one of last year’s best comedy episodes. I also thought that season two was superior to season one when it turned into just a great family comedy. Plimpton should have won, but at least she got recognized with an Emmy, although it was for the wrong show.

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    1874
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    I loved the episode with little Jimmy singing “Aint No Sunshine”.  I don’t know why Fox moves this show to Fridays next season. I thought the ratings were good.

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    tonorlo
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    By and large, I agree with the commentary above. The first two seasons were very good to great, but this past season could only be called schizophrenic. There were a few gems (I’ll agree that “Candy Wars” was a season highlight, along with “Throw Maw Maw from the House, Part Two” and “Lord of the Ring”), a few genuine misfires ( the wince-worthy “What Up, Bro?”, “What Happens at Howdy’s Doesn’t Stay at Howdy’s”) and mostly, a lot of middle-of-the-road banalities where the always-game cast was let down by the writing.

    The dynamic of the series is definitely different now than it was in the past two seasons; the show is at its best when each of the characters are effectively woven into a single storyline. When there is an “A” and “B” storyline involving Neff/Woodward and Plimpton/Dillahunt, the show tends to feel oddly disjointed (and Plimpton and Dillahunt almost always effectively steal the show under those circumstances, which isn’t a bad thing in itself, but it undercuts Neff and Woodward more than they deserve).  

    My hunch is that the writers feel they’ve exhausted the sort of territory that was so effective for these characters at the beginning of the series, and it’s too bad, because what I foresee happening is the show getting zanier and more “outrageous” when what it does best is focusing on the domestic idiosyncrasies and warmth that are shared among this family of characters. And certainly, the show has gone to “zany” and “outrageous” places in the past, but this used to happen with storylines that laughed WITH the characters moreso than it laughed AT them. I’m a huge fan of the first two seasons of the show, and I’d love to see a return to form, but… we’ll see.

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    Gabriel
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    I find it strange how they’ve pushed Plimpton and Garrett Dillahunt as leads for awards purposes, and neglected Lucas Neff, the actual lead. He wasn’t even on the ballot, for some reason.

    Anyway, I like the show, but it’s not doing anything that Malcolm and the Middle didn’t do better over 10 years ago. Maybe Plimpton would have been a worthy winner, if she had been in supporting. There was no way she was winning in lead.

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    Icky
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    I don’t think it’s that similiar to ‘Malcolm’. Besides, I thought that show was pretty annoying and the cast beyond Kaczmarek and Cranston was useless. 

    Neff is the clear lead, but Plimption and Dillahunt are clearly the stars of the show. Plimpton absolutely deserved to win based on her tape in the first season. No one else was really close. Best lead actress in a comedy has become more about buzz and momentum than any other acting category. Plimpton has just as much screen time and presence on this show has Amy Poehler has on hers.

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    BenitoDelicias
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    The show is great and has been great since day one. Sure some misses last year that lead some to say that the season was a bit of letdown, and they’re right. But you can throw the cliche excuse of “a bad episode of Raising Hope is still better than ________” here because they can surely put out some great episodes.

    Martha Plimpton had a perfect tape in season one, she should’ve won and rightfully won an Emmy last year for The Good Wife that might not have been as deserving but at least is some kind of revenge.

    She was correctly submitted in Lead for the first year but as Jimmy and Sabrina grew stronger, Burt and Virginia got more supporting, so they should’ve been campaigned as such for seasons two and three. And Garrett Dillahunt specially never had anything to do in the Lead category, he’s had plenty of winning tapes for a supporting placement. 

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    Icky
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    I could see Plimpton and Dillahunt going supporting in season two. The best of that season focused on the Sabrina-Jimmy arc, though Plimpton had pretty dominant screen time in the season’s first half. I wouldn’t have minded all four key players going lead this year. The focus from episode to episode shifted between each couple.

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    Karl William
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    I loved the episode with little Jimmy singing “Aint No Sunshine”.  I don’t know why Fox moves this show to Fridays next season. I thought the ratings were good.

    The ratings are okay for fox, I think the biggest reason it got renewed was because it will reach 88 episodes with its 4th season, which makes it a possibility for a syndication deal.

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    Slam
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    I still love this show. It’s not quite what it used to be, the occasional fantastic episode still shines. They took a lot of chances this year, poking at other genres a bit more…. they had a mockumentary, a musical, several 2-parters, and of course the Breaking Bad parody which was the strongest of the season, IMO. 

    And to agree with what was said above…. yes “Jimmy’s Fake Girlfriend” last season was probably the strongest episode of the series, and definitely deserved a writing nomination. And the 4 main actors have really each continued to bring it throughout the show’s life.

    Based on tape alone, Plimpton should’ve won with “Say Cheese”. It was a perfect submission.

    Unfortunately, this show is probably dead at the Emmys. 

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    Daniel Montgomery
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    If the show never rebounds in quality, I think I’ll look back at the resurrection of Hope’s serial killer mother as the show’s jump-the-shark moment. Big miscalculation. That second season finale was the moment things started to go downhill.

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