January 14, 2012 at 10:28 pm #236714
So i have been doing alot of resesrch lately, and i have fiund that season seven seems to be the unluckiest season for a tv show. I mean, here are just some of the shows over history that were canceled or ended after their seventh season:
The Golden Girls
The West Wing
The Mary Tyler Moore Show
January 15, 2012 at 3:55 am #236716
Let’s say that 7th season it’s a good time for ending a show.
Especially for not procedurals dramas it’s difficult to go further than that..
I think seven seasons has been perfect for a show like The West Wing. And for Gilmore Girls too.
I also consider The Sopranos a seven seasons show, considering half two of season six aired a year after half one.January 15, 2012 at 9:06 am #236717
Season 7 is also the season when most shows start to fall off Emmy radar. If I recall, that’s when Frasier and Friends stopped getting writing and directing recognition. The Office also lost Rainn Wilson and directing at season 7. Season 7 is when Charlie Sheen got snubbed for 2.5 Men (yet Jon Cryer remains live and well).January 15, 2012 at 10:13 am #236718
Well, if a show manages to last up to season seven, I think we can hardly call them unlucky. Still, that happens because, rarely when a show gets that far that they haven’t outstayed their welcome. “Seinfeld” might be the only case of series that had a strong season 7 (well, that, and “Curb Your Enthusiasm”).
“Friends”, “Gilmore Girls”, “Frasier”… all them weren’t in their prime anymore.
Also, I don’t see “The Sopranos” as a seven season show. The sixth season was split when aired, but for me it still works as one season only.January 15, 2012 at 10:29 am #236719
It’s not unlucky, it’s just the fact that a seventh season is way too long for a show to still be on the air to begin with. Very few, if any, have been able to maintain quality after so long, specially when you consider that even before that, a lot of shows start losing a lot of key producers, writers and even cast members that were there at the beginning when it was good, hot, Emmy winning, or whatever.
And the Emmy radar thing is just silly. Most shows fall of way before that.
By the way, Friends won for Season 8, so did Jennifer Aniston, they were never popular with the writing/directing categories to begin with and Matt LeBlanc started getting nominations in season 8, the same year Matthew Perry got his first and only nod.
Very few even make it past a season 5 or 6 with the usual Emmy love: recently Raymond, Will and Grace, Friends (who did have a horrible, not unlucky, season 7 and Emmy took notice), Lost, Sex and the City, Curb Your Enthusiasm, The Office, The West Wing, Jane Kaczmareck and Mariska Hargitay and I asume 30 Rock this year.January 15, 2012 at 11:37 am #236720
i enjoy the golden girls seventh season, the monkey show, case of libertine bell enough said. i don’t think it’s an unlucky season, more so a after you’ve hit that season the question is “where do you go from here” or ” what can be covered that we haven’t covered already”…e.g. buffy which had a somewhat shaky 7th seasonJanuary 15, 2012 at 11:49 am #236721
The seventh season of L.A. Law was the only one to be completely shut out by the Academy. Prior to that, it had been an Emmy darling, with four Outstanding Drama Series victories.
On the other hand, the seventh season of Law & Order won the show its sole Outstanding Drama Series Emmy.January 15, 2012 at 2:02 pm #236722
Ive also,noticed that for sitcoms, especially ones that aired in the 80 90 00, they start losing quality once a major plot of one episode is carried into many episodes. We have seen this plenty of times with shows (Rosesanne, The Golden Girls, The Nanny, Designing Women, Reba, etc.)January 15, 2012 at 3:13 pm #236723
Ive also,noticed that for sitcoms, especially ones that aired in the 80 90 00, they start losing quality once a major plot of one episode is carried into many episodes. We have seen this plenty of times with shows (Rosesanne, The Golden Girls, The Nanny, Designing Women, Reba, etc.)
Really? What about Seinfeld’s fourth and seventh season arcs (writing a pilot for NBC and George getting married, respectively)? what about Curb Your Enthusiasm’s seventh season arc to create a seinfeld reunion? Ironically, they were both created by Larry David…
On the Drama side, the 7th season of The West Wing got Alan Alda his 5th emmy. The Sopranos won its 2nd Drama Series emmy for its seventh season (yes, I know the 6th season was split into two). 24’s 7th season was largely seen as a reinvention of the show and even got Cherry Jones the emmy for Best Supporting Drama Actress. And of course there are all the examples other people have mentioned.
Even though I agree that by any show’s 7th season, quality has decreased, I would say it is because seven seasons is a great run for an established network show. Cable shows have the advantage of having half the episodes network shows are required to have and so they can have a higher standard of quality.January 17, 2012 at 1:59 pm #236724
I wouldn’t say there’s much of a pattern here. It used to be that around the seven-season mark was a good place for a show to end with some dignity. Now, there’s no such thing as dignity in the entertainment world, so shows just go on and on until no one’s watching anymore or the creatives behind the scenes totally run out of ideas. I look at a show like How I Met Your Mother and wish it had ended at seven seasons.
But it’s true, some shows have great seventh seasons. Seinfeld’s seventh season is great, but it’s not really a seventh season, considering how small the episode orders for the first two seasons are. I also really enjoyed the seventh season of Friends. I think it was one of their strongest overall. But Friends could also get away with a long run more so than a lot of other sitcoms because the show was so soapy (there was always some longterm relationship drama happening in the background or the foreground) and because many of the people who would criticize the show for going on too long and growing stale weren’t really fans of the show to begin with.