July 22, 2015 at 8:55 am #355112
I understand. This is an ensemble show-big ensemble at that; even the A-Listed actors have 7-10 minute screentime in one episode AT MOST. And their chances of winning increases a lot in less-competitive supporting category if they got nominated.
But come on, this is one of the most popular shows on both USA and industry(These two generally don’t line up.) Has ever been this kinda huge popular hit without even one singular Lead Actor/Actress nom.?
Yes, Drama Series nomination is a big one, but right now everyone is focusing on big acting categories like Drama Actor, Actress. So it seems to me like they waste their potential. Wtf is HBO thinking? They have only one nomination in Drama Actor/Actress category and this is the last time The Newsroom is eligible. What will they do next year? Let the Showtime dominate all big categories?
With 3 of last years nominees weren’t eligible, Dinklage could have EASILY gotten nominated this year over Liev Schreiber, Kyle Chandler and maybe Jeff Daniels and Bob Odenkirk. Remember it won’t be first time he was nominated besides other shows leading men-He was nominated two times in SAG for Best Actor, and last year he pushed Jeff Daniels out of his place.-
And his chances will even more increase next year when Daniels and Hamm won’t be on his way in Emmys. Who could really replace them, really, while we still even have one big surprise there, Liev Schreiber.
Now with the importance of episode sumbissions(and also screentime) grows smaller and smaller he would be one of the frontunners for sure.
As for ladies, yeah their chances are definitely lower but without no Moss and possibly Maslany(I’m thinking her nom. is one and only kinda thing) next year; one could possibly replace them based on solely shows popularity. Remember Michelle Dockery, Kerry Washington?
I mean if Robin Wright, Taylor Schilling and Elisabeth Moss are leads on their shows, these three also fits that definition.
Modern Family actors Julie Bowen and Ty Burrel also made the same mistake and I’m sure they regret it now.(Burrel could have taken at least two of Parsons’ trophies by now) But it’s too late for them now. The show lost its momentum.
And by the way, some underrated actors like Kit Harington, Sophie Turner, Alfie Allen, Maisie Williams could very well use of this since they’ll be the only one being pushed for Supporting for their shows, and for HBO..
Beacause if they will continue to submit everyone in the supporting I’m afraid everyone would cancel each other out and we won’t be seeing any other actors getting nominated besides Clarke, Headey and Dinklage from this show.
What do you guys think?July 22, 2015 at 9:28 am #355114
The only way they should even consider going lead is if they cut the independent storylines in half. There is no way that Clarke should go lead if she’s only in 3-4 minutes an episode. Maybe when/if Khaleesi ever comes to Westeros, then maybe she’ll be more prominent. Until then, I can’t say that it’s a good idea.July 22, 2015 at 9:42 am #355115
The only way they should even consider going lead is if they cut the independent storylines in half. There is no way that Clarke should go lead if she’s only in 3-4 minutes an episode. Maybe when/if Khaleesi ever comes to Westeros, then maybe she’ll be more prominent. Until then, I can’t say that it’s a good idea.
Yeah, Clarke and Headey were my sub-choices. I especially wanted to focus on Dinklage here, he is first-billed since season 2 and was the only person who appeared in all episodes last year. Drama Lead Actor is such a wasteland and will be more so next year. It would be idiotic move by HBO if it doesn’t fill up this slot. He is the most popular actor of that show and that show is the HBO’s only shot at any Drama categories.
But we shouldn’t be all thinking about screentime in here. Schilling also has so little screentime in one average episode of OITNB but no one questions if she is the lead or not. Khaleesi is such a iconic figure on popular culture right now, and her being in the same category as Diane Lockhart or Anna Bates etc. doesn’t make sense to me and I think it is not fair for her rivals, either. She is clearly the driving force of the show.
July 22, 2015 at 9:45 am #355116
Please be carefull with spoilers ffs! Harington isn’t happening we all know why.July 22, 2015 at 10:31 am #355119
I think HBO will be just fine next year with their several Supporting nominees and people like Anthony Hopkins, Oscar Isaac, possibly Rooney Mara coming for lead categories.July 22, 2015 at 10:39 am #355120
No one from GoT is lead from a screen time or storyline perspective. And unless it greatly changes its story structure no one will ever get a competitive lead tape. Dinklage didn’t even get enough to do to truly deserve a supporting nod this year. Also, while this was a wide open year in lead actor that won’t last for too long.
Kit has not cut his hair or shaved his face, and he’s been seen in cities where GoT is shooting. Thus the assumption he’ll return.July 22, 2015 at 11:54 am #355121
The show’s path to more nominations is actually submitting someone in guest actor and a second guest actress, not bumping people up to lead.July 22, 2015 at 1:34 pm #355122
It’s a shame people like Conleth Hill had too many episodes to qualify.
No one is a lead in ‘Game of Thrones’, although you are right to call out supporting performances like Michelle Dockery and Elisabeth Moss (this year), so it wouldn’t be the most egregious fraud.July 22, 2015 at 1:53 pm #355123
It’s a shame people like Conleth Hill had too many episodes to qualify.
No one is a lead in ‘Game of Thrones’, although you are right to call out supporting performances like Michelle Dockery and Elisabeth Moss (this year), so it wouldn’t be the most egregious fraud.
Actually he appeared in only 4 episodes this year. He was eligible but wasn’t submitted.July 22, 2015 at 2:00 pm #355124
What the f*ck?July 22, 2015 at 2:07 pm #355125
Hell no. Dinklage doesn’t even have a decent tape for Supporting Actor this year, in ten episodes! He appeared in every episode and gets some nice scenes in some of them, but that puts him more on par with people like Vincent Kartheiser and Noah Emmerich and Walton Goggins, only he gets way less to do in the season than those guys. There’s no case to be made for it unless they want some guaranteed losses. With more invented material next season, Dinklage could actually have a shot in Supporting Actor, but never Lead. Same with Headey, Harington, Coster-Waldau, and especially Clarke, whose tapes or would-be tapes have never been particularly competitive.
They had some chances before the show was so crowded, where someone would get a mix of almost always appearing and actually getting some weighty acting on a regular basis. Sean Bean in Season 1, as he was submitted. Peter Dinklage in Season 2 could have been submitted Lead, and maybe Season 3. The end. If anyone had the material to have done it in Season 5, it was Headey, but why would she? She can win where she is, but she couldn’t beat any combination of Davis/Henson/Wright/Maslany/Moss/Danes, and I’m not positive she could even break into that field (though probably).July 22, 2015 at 2:14 pm #355126
The show’s path to more nominations is actually submitting someone in guest actor and a second guest actress, not bumping people up to lead.
Well Pedro Pascal had lots of Internet buzz last year with many crying for a win, and he was ignored, so I dunno if it would work.July 22, 2015 at 2:19 pm #355127
This poll makes no sense. If anyone was a lead last season, it was Headey, not Dinklage. Or maybe Harrington. Clarke I guess, she certainly was closer to it than Dinklage. But really, there are clearly no leads in GoT. Dinklage in season 2 is the closest the show got to having a lead (aside from Sean Bean, obviously).