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  • iskolar
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    #254028

    Time and again, we have seen contenders whose nomination is the hardest battle to achieve, but once nominated, is very competitive for the win. The same can be said for Community’s Remedial Chaos Theory episode in the Comedy Writing category.

    What instances can you think applies to this one?

    One that comes to mind was Margo Martindale’s Justified nomination last year. While many were prdedicting her to get nominated, it wasn’t still a sure thing ala Baranski, Panjabi, or Hendricks. But once she got the nom, she suddenly was the frontrunner fot the win and even managed to do so.

    Can you enumerate other instances like this?

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    BenitoDelicias
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    I would say Arrested Development. Season 1 was probably difficult but with those tapes, once everbody got to see what the fuss was about, it was probably very difficult to top them for the win.

    I think Lost is the same case. A genre show getting nominated is difficult to begin with, but with those tapes…

    Jamie Pressly is probably another example. After season one, everything started to fade for My Name is Earl, so the fact that she got in was good enough. But then that tape was just perfect, even if it was very short. 

    Jennifer Aniston could be another example, I don’t recall what the category looked like back then. Moving to lead and getting in couldn’t have been that easy, so once she did it, with a birth episode in what was Friends great comeback year, it was difficult to loose.

    Drea DeMatteo could also work for this. The year before she was supposed to be a lock for a nomination and she didn’t get it. Once she was in, she had great tapes for an easy win.

    Leslie Jordan is somebody who could’ve been nominated more times for Will & Grace, yet for that final season it was still surprising, at least to me. Maybe Bobby Cannavale could fit into this thread too.

    A lot of winners in the Guest categories went through this, Loretta Devine also comes to mind. 

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    Tom_Scavo
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    Kathryn Joosten’s nomination this year comes to my mind…

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    alias571
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    Kathryn Joosten’s nomination this year comes to my mind…

    Kathryn Joosten is hardly a lock for the win. As someone said around here before, in her case I think the nomination was the award.

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    sorcery
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    Glynn Turman in Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series for In Treatment (2008)
    Zeljko Ivanek in Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series for Damages (2008)
    Paul McCrane in Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series for Harry’s Law (2011)

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    Morgan Henard
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    Kristin Chenoweth in Pushing Daisies. Ridiculously canceled by ABC but if she could just land that second nomination and submit the correct episode, she would win. All fell into place and that’s exactly what happened. One of the best wins in not only the category’s history but the entire history of the ceremony. A win that gave credibility to a sometimes broken system of voting.

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    outsider
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    Wow, you’re really exaggerating here! Kristin Chenoweth is definitely not one of the best winners in the history of the Emmys and her win didn’t give credibility to the system.

    Also, why do you think the “Pushing Daisies” cancellation was ridiculous? You may have found the decision disappointing, but it was an expensive show with terrible ratings.

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    GoMe91
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    ^Yeah. Kristen winning was cool, but it wasn’t that big of a deal. In fact, it’s not a moment that people talk about much anymore.

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    Royal Night
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    Well considering that from 2005 – 2008, the winners in Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series did not have the best submissions, Kristin’s win was pretty awesome.  I would also say that she really was the best supporting actress of the 2008-2009 season, and she had a lot going against her but was still able to win.  The win obviously gave credibility to the system because she had the best submission and was rewarded for it.

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    Glynn Turman in Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series for In Treatment (2008)
    Zeljko Ivanek in Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series for Damages (2008)
    Paul McCrane in Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series for Harry’s Law (2011)

    I think that Zeljkno’s nomination for Damages can be attributed to the panel system and popularity system that was in place that determined nominees in 2008.  If the nominees were determined by popularity, then Ted Danson would have probably been the only Supporting Actor nominated from Damages.

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    Glynn Turman in Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series for In Treatment (2008)
    Zeljko Ivanek in Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series for Damages (2008)
    Paul McCrane in Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series for Harry’s Law (2011)

    I think that Zeljkno’s nomination for Damages can be attributed to the panel system and popularity system that was in place that determined nominees in 2008.  If the nominees were determined by popularity, then Ted Danson would have probably been the only Supporting Actor nominated from Damages.

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    What about Melissa McCarthy? The handful of people who predicted her nomination were basing it off of the popularity of Bridesmaids more so than the popularity of Mike & Molly. But her episode submission was gold for her, even though I think (if I can remember correctly) most people were calling it for Laura Linney.

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    Morgan Henard
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    Wow, you’re really exaggerating here! Kristin Chenoweth is definitely not one of the best winners in the history of the Emmys and her win didn’t give credibility to the system.

    Also, why do you think the “Pushing Daisies” cancellation was ridiculous? You may have found the decision disappointing, but it was an expensive show with terrible ratings.

    I’m not exaggerating at all. Did you watch the series from beginning to end? It was brilliant. And the reason I say it was a good win is because she nor her show had zero buzz (unlike, say, Arrested Development when it was nominated for its canceled season). But there was a consensus of, “If they watched all of the episodes, Chenoweth wins this easily.” And she did.

    And yeah, it was an expensive show. But the ratings, like nearly every show that season, were affected, I feel, by the writers strike. Notice how most of the shows that came out of that season – Pushing Daisies, Eli Stone, Dirty Sexy Money, Samantha Who? – were canceled a bit early. 

    We’ll never know how things might have been for those series had the strike not happened but at least Emmy recognized it fairly well: A total of seven wins – two major ones, including Chenoweth and Directing for the pilot, err “Pie-lette – out of 17 nominations. 

    Edit: And dare I add, it also won three Gold Derby TV Awards: two Supporting Actress wins for Kristin Chenoweth and Comedy Episode of the Year for “Pie-Lette.”  

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    Andrew Eng
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    This might be a weird pick, but Bryan Cranston wasn’t always an Emmy juggernaut for Breaking Bad. In 2008, when he got his first nomination, that was considered a surprise, I believe. Yes, he had name recognition, which allowed him to enter the top 10 that year, but Breaking Bad was an untested property at the time, and Mad Men was AMC’s top horse. Once the voters saw his submission (Pilot), that gave him enough of a boost to be nominated (almost certainly tying Gabriel Byrne for the last slot), joining locks Michael C. Hall, Jon Hamm, Hugh Laurie, and James Spader. Once nominated, and voters analyzed the episodes, he had a very good shot to win. And our very own Tom O’Neil was one of only two pundits to predict Cranston for the win (the other being Michael Ausiello) over James Spader. 

    Another pick would be Peter Dinklage for Game of Thrones. Although a well-known character actor, he was not a lock, due to Game of Thrones being a new show, a fantasy series, and having a large ensemble cast. But once nominated, and having a killer tape (Baelor), he became one of the frontrunners, and deservingly won. 

    Another pick would be Eric Stonestreet for Modern Family. Before Modern Family became an unstoppable Emmy force, it was not known which, if any, of the actors would make the nominations. Most were picking Burrell and/or O’Neill to get in, and very few expected Stonestreet to get in. But he got in, and over the latter, which was a pleasant surprise. And he had a superb submission (Fizbo). Combine that with his performances on his costars’ tapes, and he became the frontrunner to win, over higher-profile people like Neil Patrick Harris

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    Daniel B.
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    What about Melissa McCarthy? The handful of people who predicted her nomination were basing it off of the popularity of Bridesmaids more so than the popularity of Mike & Molly. But her episode submission was gold for her, even though I think (if I can remember correctly) most people were calling it for Laura Linney.

    The first name that popped in my mind was Melissa McCarthy.

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