August 30, 2012 at 9:59 am #258074
Since, I saw that most pilots that have been released, earned their own thread. I think it’s only fair to have one of this year’s best pilots (so far) get its own thread.
I found this pilot to be great at introducing the characters. There are a few kinks, I hope can get straightened out. I wasn’t particularly fond of the Tommy character, but as New Girl’s Winston showed me, even if they are an extremely weak link in the beginning, they can grow to be tolerable.
I thought that both Faxon and Johnson, are great leads, and that this little girl is what the girl in the “The New Normal” pilot was aspiring to be, precocious but not know-it-all.
Though, in my opinion, the true standout was Lucy Punch, who was absolutely hilarious in most of here scenes.
(The pilot is available in HULU for those who haven’t watched, currently I would put it below the Mindy pilot, but above both Go On and The New Normal. But I think this is the series with the most potential)August 30, 2012 at 10:52 am #258076
Like I said in another thread, I actually liked all the characters and the cast. Sure, Tommy has to improve, but it’s a pilot, so it makes sense they focused on the leads and the sister’s best friend.
This is the one comedy with the most potential to be very good (there are even “Community” writers going on board). I like how it’s not afraid to have some silly or weird jokes in the mix with more traditional and sweet elements and storylines. I also liked that they start with the bonds between characters already strong. It spared us of awkward introductions, and focused on characterization. And I like that they treat the conflicts casually (like Kate being a single mom) instead of making a big deal of every action and line coming from the characters in a clunky expositional manner (**coff**THE NEW NORMAL**coff**).
It’s not a perfect pilot, they still have to tune the timing a bit (although this made me laugh much more than all the other new shows), and obviously, they need to develop these characters so we get to both care for them. But it’s a strong start, and it’s confident in what it wants to do, without depending on gimmicks or overwrought narrative style to disguise them as creative (**coff**THE MINDY PROJECT**coff*).
Overall, pretty good pilot, and I’m confident this will find an audience. At least, it serves too more than any new show I have watched so far.August 31, 2012 at 6:27 am #258077
I actually really liked the pilot. The story was set up well, the writing was strong, and the performances were great. I guess my only complaint would be the Ben character. A little of him goes a very long way. I can easily see him growing tiring as a character very quickly. Other than that, a great start. I hope this show makes it.
Also, can someone tell me exactly WHY Lucy Punch is stuck being a supporting character (albeit a good one) when she should be starring in her own sitcom?September 25, 2012 at 10:27 pm #258079
It was ok. I have cautiously guarded optimism. I do like that B&K isn’t trying to be preachy about things (New Normal, SVU) but I’m wondering what direction they are going to take the show. I agree with MissyGal about Ben. Hopefully he won’t be so Ben the whole series. That is a lot to take.
Dakota did make one face where she looked just like her mother. The rest of the time though, she reminded me of Genie Francis. Weird huhSeptember 26, 2012 at 1:31 am #258080
I’ll echo the sentiments about the Ben character. That’s how I’ve been feeling about Andy (from “Parks & Rec”) for the past 2 seasons. Small doses are fine, but anything more than that runs the risk of making the character insufferable… which is what happened to Andy.
Overall, pretty good pilot. As far as the battle of the meek, mousy, blonde single moms is concerned, Kate easily trumps Goldie (The New Normal).September 26, 2012 at 5:46 am #258081
This was actually a nice Pilot, I do agree that Ben could become too much to handle in the same way that Andy on Parks, Michael on The Office and so many others can be. The pilot didn’t do anything else but show that this character was simply an idiot and that he would keep being one for a very long time. So the following episodes could just be one idiotic thing after the other until it gets tired very quickly.
But it was fun, I will follow Lucy Punch anywhere and I think both Faxon and Johnson were good leads.
The only part of the Pilot I didn’t like was the scene under the table at the wedding. First of all, who knew a tablecloth could be soundproof and second, the way this scene was directed, it seemed like Ben and Kate weren’t siblings but a real couple, the way they looked at each other, the setting, it became a bit too final scene from a romantic comedy before they end up together.
I’ll keep watching…September 26, 2012 at 10:14 am #258082
I thought the pilot was okay. I knew of Nat Faxon only from his Oscar win for “The Descendants.” But the girl I was trying to place for the longest time. I knew she was Melanie Griffith and Don Johnson’s daughter, but there was something else, and then it hit me. She was Justin’s one-night-stand Stanford girl from “The Social Network”! I think Dakota Johnson could be really good in this role over time. Nat Faxon though is saddled with one of these tiresome man-child roles where if the writing’s bad for him, his character will become a bit much to sit through week after week. He does have nice charisma and spark here, so that should take him far. And I also got a creepy vibe at times where Ben and Kate felt more like ex-lovers than siblings. “Thatz Not Okay!” Other than that, things settled in well enough. The wedding part ended up being too predictable and sitcomy, but I do like the supporting cast. The black guy with the big hair. Lucy Punch! They’re letting her keep the British accent! Love that. Not sure if I’ll make a point to follow this show all season, but this was a nice enough start.
Grade for “Pilot”: BSeptember 27, 2012 at 2:19 am #258083
It seems Fox has now 3 comedies with annoying lead characters (in 1 night!!!) – Nat Faxon, Mindy Kaling and Zooey Deschanel.October 8, 2012 at 11:20 am #258084
FOX has ordered a full season pick-up for ‘The Mindy Project’ and more episodes of ‘Ben and Kate’:October 8, 2012 at 1:03 pm #258086
[quote=”Aurel_Graf”]FOX has ordered a full season pick-up for ‘The Mindy Project’ and more episodes of ‘Ben and Kate’
According to this, the additional six Ben & Kate episodes are a “full season pickup”; I am assuming that it will be replaced by The Goodwin Games in January.[/quote]
According to TV Line, the abbreviated pick-up apparently accomodates the pregnancy of Dana Fox (the show’s creator). Still, 19 episodes won’t be finished by January. I’d say March at the earliest, and The Goodwin Games could come in after.
Regardless, I’m really happy because I think this show has big potential!October 8, 2012 at 1:33 pm #258087
Only having 2 shows in the pipeline limits Fox’s choices, so not surprised.