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    I’ve watched ‘True Detective’ and it was really good, but what they want to do I think is not good for it. Specially if it goes in Drama, Breaking Bad is going to deal with it. One thing I know is that even if it goes drama and gets the nomination, Breaking Bad would win again. But, Bryan Cranston’s chances are on the edge a little bit. As Emmys has not gave a 4th Emmy to a Drama Actor since Dennis Franz (James Gandolfini, James Spader)  it hurts Bryan Cranston and McConaughey has to deal with him for his last time. But if it stay in miniseries, thay have all the awards guaranteed to win (Miniseries, Mini actor,…) So with McConaughey in Mini actor, Bryan Cranston has a guaranteed win. So why  TD want to fuck up Breaking Bad Sweep when it can sweep in the Mini categories?

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    Girl bye. 

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    dj
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    I agree that TD should submit as mini. Obviously you’re a huge BB fan as am I but that really isn’t the reason that they should submit as mini in my opinion. The reason is that they would have a stronghold on the mini and TV movie categories for years to come and after BB this year they would most likely have a stronghold on the drama categories when GOT will be the front runner and their new drama series that are in development right now will be competing. Why when you have a show that can dominate a newly split category would you have it compete with your other shows in the years to come. It makes no sense to me. Submitting TD as mini would allow HBO to dominate the Emmy’s in the future. Plus I was a big fan of TD this year and would like to see them sweep to be honest and this gives them the best chance. I also don’t think it would send a good message to the GOT team to have your new shiny toy compete against it. I think The Hollywood Reporter was just reporting this to create some extra buzz. They said there was chatter that TD might submit drama but the fact that HBO didn’t comment at all has me thinking, like Boomer said, that they are leaning towards mini.

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    Adri m.
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    That’s the best decision, specially if they want to win something, miniseries categories are easy for it. I think they should submit in Drama next year AFTER Breaking Bad sweep everything or stick into Miniseries if they want to, but this year they must stay in miniseries, that’s my opinion. Many shows submitted in Mini had had more than two seasons (American Horror Story, Sherlock, Luther…) and AHS has won every year something. So if HBO is intelligent, it will let TD to stay in Miniseries.

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    Adri m.
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    Girl bye. 

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    Icky
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    That means wanting a show to switch categories so your favorite has an easier path is lame.

    HBO wants a drama series contender. GoT is not that. Wins in the drama categories hold greater weight than wins in miniseries. Next season may not be as well received. It means greater risk and more competition, but I say go for it.

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    Until HBO actually publically announces that they’re submitting True
    Detective in the Drama Series category, I’m going to remain highly
    skeptical of this report. Considering how savvy they typically are when
    it comes to awards season, it seems to highly unlikely that they’d
    sacrifice potential nominations and potential wins. However, for the
    sake of argument, let’s say that they decide to do it. How would it
    affect True Detective’s chances?

    Drama Series
    True Detective would be a lock for a nomination, but they would have a
    real fight on their hands for a win. Breaking Bad is far out in front,
    and although it will have been off the air for almost a year by the time
    voting ends, I’m sure that AMC will give the defending champion a strong push. Furthermore,
    Game of Thrones will likely draw a significant amount of buzz and
    promotional attention as well (I’ve read the books, and based on what’s
    coming up this new season is going to be extremely strong). It
    wouldn’t be enough for Thrones to win, but it could divide HBO’s
    attention enough to ensure Breaking Bad’s victory.

    Regardless,
    this would instantly become the year’s most exciting category. True
    Detective would have a puncher’s chance at an upset, but they’d really
    have to work for it, and I doubt it would pay off.

    Lead Actor
    – This is one category where I think True Detective could still
    win. Matthew McConaughey has enough momentum coming off his Oscar win
    that I believe that he could take down Bryan Cranston, who has already
    won three times and hasn’t won in three years (once because he wasn’t
    eligible, twice falling to Damian Lewis and Jeff Daniels). McConaughey
    has numerous tapes that he could submit where he has long philosophical
    monologues – they’re downers rather than the soaring inspirational takes that the Academy typically likes, but they’re riveting. Cranston will submit
    “Ozymandias”, which makes him extremely formidable, but I’d still take
    McConaughey.

    The really interesting question could be what Woody
    Harrelson decides to do in this scenario. He and McConaughey could
    reinforce one another by submitting separate tapes, but he would have no
    chance of winning in this category, and it’s conceivable that he could
    siphon off enough votes from McConaughey to deliver the race to
    Cranston. Lead Actor is such a competitive category that there’s even a chance that Harrelson could be snubbed, since HBO will
    likely push McConaughey first and foremost.

    Would Harrelson consider submitting himself in
    the Supporting Actor category? It would be blatant category fraud, and
    voters might reject it as such. But if he were to make it into that
    field, I expect that he would be the favorite to win.

    Supporting Actress
    – Michelle Monaghan would probably make this field, but she would have
    no chance of beating Anna Gunn if Gunn submits Ozymandias. Monaghan
    simply doesn’t have the tape (really, no one does).

    Director
    – If Cary Fukanaga submits “Who Goes There” – the episode with the much
    lauded six-minute take – he has a real chance to win, especially since
    Michelle MacLaren (“To’hajillee”), Rian Johnson (“Ozymandias”), and
    Vince Gilligan (“Felina”) could split votes. That doesn’t even factor in
    potential submissions from Game of Thrones and House of Cards. I think
    that Fukanaga would conquer a divided field.

    Writing
    – Because Nic Pizzolatto wrote every episode of True Detective (and
    received sole credit), he can only submit one episode, which means he’d
    have to choose carefully. Breaking Bad is likely to have multiple
    entries in this field, while Game of Thrones, House of Cards, Mad Men,
    and Downton Abbey are all threats to at least get a nomination here.
    This category is the hardest to project until we see the actual
    submissions.

    So if True Detective submits in the Drama field, it
    will probably pick up two trophies, maybe 3. If it’s submited as a
    Miniseries, it will probably sweep everything. The choice seems clear –
    especially when you consider that the cast turnover every year could
    make it harder for the actors in subsequent seasons to establish
    momentum. Still, we’ll see what HBO decides to do.

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    That means wanting a show to switch categories so your favorite has an easier path is lame.

    HBO wants a drama series contender. GoT is not that. Wins in the drama categories hold greater weight than wins in miniseries. Next season may not be as well received. It means greater risk and more competition, but I say go for it.

    I’m saying that TD must stay in miniseries not just as a BB huge fan, but also looking for what’s best for the show, for both. Of course that a Drama Series win is not like a Miniseries win, but is a very good win though. Not to mention that HBO has been sweeping in the Miniseries Caregories recently twice (2012, Game Change; 2013, Behind the Candelabra; 2010, Temple Grandin) and with many wins. And TD has no competition in Miniseries categories so I think it’s obvious what it have to do between picking Drama or Miniseries. Most probably that it will stay in Miniseries and sweep everything for a third consecutive year. Forgot to mention the category split which makes ‘The Normal Heart’ a likely winner

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    We don’t know yet that Game of Thrones won’t be a drama series contender. 

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    I’ve watched ‘True Detective’ and it was really good, but what they want to do I think is not good for it. Specially if it goes in Drama, Breaking Bad is going to deal with it. One thing I know is that even if it goes drama and gets the nomination, Breaking Bad would win again. But, Bryan Cranston’s chances are on the edge a little bit. As Emmys has not gave a 4th Emmy to a Drama Actor since Dennis Franz (James Gandolfini, James Spader)  it hurts Bryan Cranston and McConaughey has to deal with him for his last time. But if it stay in miniseries, thay have all the awards guaranteed to win (Miniseries, Mini actor,…) So with McConaughey in Mini actor, Bryan Cranston has a guaranteed win. So why  TD want to fuck up Breaking Bad Sweep when it can sweep in the Mini categories?

    Matthew McConaughey isn’t a sure thing in Movie/Mini Actor. We still have to wait for the baity role Mark Ruffalo has in The Normal Heart and for all we know Fargo could be a player in the Miniseries category.

    We do know that Bryan Cranston has already won 3 times and hasn’t won since 2010. Matthew McConaughey would have an extra tape if Woody Harrelson is nominated beside him.

    I’m not even going to discuss that last sentence.

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    I’d be fine with it going drama TBH, it can win drama series next year with Breaking Bad out of the way.

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    Around when do you guys think HBO will announce where they will submit it?

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    Ghost
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    Around when do you guys think HBO will announce where they will submit it?

    I’d imagine by mid April with the campaign starting in May.

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    Icky
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    We don’t know yet that Game of Thrones won’t be a drama series contender. 

    Let’s just say it’s not winning drama series this year, and it’s probably not winning next year.

    I’m sure HBO knows that they’ll have a better chance of winning big in the miniseries categories. But they have the buzz, acclaim and a chance in the drama categories this year. So, they’re taking the risk this year. We need more risk takers. 

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    With the Allison Janney reporting being debunked I’m assuming this will probably turn out to be wrong too

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