August 29, 2016 at 11:43 am #1201915108
Pete and I did a series of these slugfests category per category – let’s see:
Whatcha thank?August 29, 2016 at 1:30 pm #1201915194
Great conversation! Will you guys be doing any more of these??
Give Paul Thomas Anderson an Oscar.August 29, 2016 at 5:22 pm #1201915247
These are better than some of the know-it-all (but not really) slugfests. Thanks.August 29, 2016 at 5:53 pm #1201915252
Loved it! Do another one please, about Comedy Directing, because that category is by far the most difficult to predict for me anyway.
I also love your quote Tom, about Emmy voters not being able to watch all the episodes, “Then frankly, they shouldn’t be voting.” Amen to that! 🙂August 29, 2016 at 7:29 pm #1201915257
I agree, you’d hope they would have the integrity and watch what they are supposed to watch and if they don’t, don’t vote.
But I will say, it sounded to me that Pete was more talking about the nominating process by going down the list and them not watching everything…because its mostly impossible. If you have 300 people on a list trying to get into a 6 or 7 person final race for the actual Emmy nomination, there’s nearly zero percent that the people nominating has seen all of the submissions. That’s why there is so many repeats and ‘names’ year after year.
Too bad there’s not a better process. At least with film, you see the whole project and the critics, who have seen everything, basically whittle down the field by the time the show biz awards come up.August 29, 2016 at 9:20 pm #1201915285
The new haircut suits well on Pete, though it will take time for me to adjust it.
Tom’s argument about SAG voters and their enthusiasm over shows with large ensembles can’t be entirely valid(or to be the only determining factor) because
only in its first year Downton was the largest nominated cast in its category(by an inch), in the others it was largely overshadowed by some other show
in terms of quantity, yet continue to keep winning. So they just like the show. Same with Orange. Uzo Aduba isn’t someone you can name check if you don’t watch or feel passionate about the show. She’s barely in it.
As for Regina King, no need to overthink about it.
They didn’t watch any tapes last year. At least not in the acting categories.
The thing that helped her was the ranking ballot system, which I’m very glad to be rid of this year. That also helped people like Martindale, and E.Cathey. Because while none of these people have ever been considered ”leading actors” or popular ones in the industry, they have appeared in countless shows and movies in small/guest roles, so people were familiar working with them, if not were friends with them,so they barely got any last place votes and ended up winning in really, really weak categories. All were also in respected shows.
I get that King doesn’t completely fit this criteria the way other two does. But c’mon, just look at her category. You had three (probably) equally popular actresses from the same(terrible) show who were just waiting to get vote-splitted; The one that was blackballed from the industry and that mousy looking girl who is Paul Dano’s GF.
For the record; it’s not even a standout performance that would have just took the attention had they watched the tapes either, given their past tendencies. It might have even finished last with blue ribbons, because it was the least campy and showy one. That turban seemed like the only quirky element of that performance to me.