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  • Trent
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    Threads like this were created for Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Eric Stonestreet and I feel that a similar thread should be opened for CK, as there seems to be no consensus on which episode he should submit.

    I originally suggested “Country Drive” but nobody seems to agree. I also think “Subway/Pamela” would be a great choice.

    What do you think? 

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    Irishmovielover4ever
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    iI Agree with you that Country Drive is his best choice, he stand up in the episode is hilarious but at the same time the car and nanny scenes have great acting from him.

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    Daniel Montgomery
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    I think his only two choices are “Duckling” or “Subway/Pamela.”

    Advantages of “Duckling”: Louie in Afghanistan, caring for a baby duck. Empathy in spades. The episode is an hour-long and he’s in just about every frame, another distinct advantage in a category with mostly half-hour shows. A range of funny (standup scenes) and dramatic (encountering danger in a war zone).

    – Disadvantages of “Duckling”: Though it’s a savvy choice by virtue of its length and themes, I remember this not being quite as strong a performance showcase for him. You don’t look at this episode and say, “That’s great acting!”

    – Advantages of “Subway/Pamela”: If I were voting, just his scene declaring his love to Pamela would be game, set, match. He explains what he means to her and that he doesn’t expect her to love him back. He basically rips his heart out and shows it to you.

    Disadvantages of “Subway/Pamela”: The first segment of the episode, “Subway,” is great, but there’s no dialogue in it and it’s not at all performance-driven. You might be impressed by Louis CK’s direction, but not his acting, so it takes a while for the meat of the episode to kick in, and impatient voters might become restless. Also, the episode isn’t as broadly funny as his competitors Jim Parsons or Alec Baldwin are likely to submit, but then again, that didn’t hurt Toni Collette or Edie Falco.

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    Trent
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    I’ve skimmed through the season and have singled out episodes that would be logical submissions for him, pointing out advanatges/disadvantages.

    “Country Drive”
    Advantages: The “Who Are You” scene is LOL funny, incredible acting moments when the woman dies.
    Disadvantages: Sheer awkwardness, the “racist” aunt may drive away voters.

    “Subway/Pamela”
    Advantages: Great acting, that speech is simply magnificent, the irony at the end.
    Disadvantages: The beginning “Subway” part with the man watering himself is borderline unwatchable.

    “Oh Louie/Tickets”
    Advantages: Louis CK flashbacks, Bob Saget, a lot of backstory that we don’t usually see, good acting.
    Disadvantages: Not particularly funny, Dane Cook

    “Come On, God”
    Advantages: Absolutely hilarious.
    Disadvantages: The ending is a bit gross.

    “Eddie”
    Advantages: Incredible writing, superb acting.
    Disadvantages: Bleak subject matter will stand out in a “comedy” category.

    “Duckling”
    Advantages: Hour long, very funny, heartwarming.
    Disadvantages: Not an actor’s piece.

    “New Jersey/Airport”
    Advantages: Very funny, Chris Rock, the ending will rip your heart out.
    Disadvantages: The opening is a bit of a mess. 

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    Denis
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    I think he wins with either episode this year emmy voters can’t be that blind, but his best choice just to be more ”showy” would be “Subway/Pamela” though I think “Duckling” was the best episode of the show so far. Anyway I think that’s his year, there’s no one better, period.

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    Pieman1994
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    “Subway/Pamela.” He doesn’t have a “perfect” submission, but if voters stick around for the whole episode (and at least for me, no episode of Louie feels that long,) then it’s all his. 

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    I don’t think “Subway/Pamela” is the best choice. The subway segment would be too surreal for several voters, and the Pamela segment is more of a emotional showcase than a comedy one. He’s funny, and has a good scene, but the fact that it revolves around a love declaration instead of a funny or extreme situation might be a disavantage. Plus, I feel voters wouldn’t repond that well to an actor not having one particular story that develops over the course of the episode, instead having two small segments quite independent from each other.

    I already said why I believe “Country Drive” wouldn’t work. It’s that, while the car trip is funny, the episode ends without a resolution. It’s well written, but a bit too odd for more conventional voters. The old lady dying, the bringing up racism and leading nowhere… that’s not gonna work as well as people here think it would.

    “Duckling” is in my opinion his best choice: he gets to be a father, to flirt with someone who he doesn’t a chance in hell, gets to be scared shitless of the the army, does he stand up (for the troops!), makes a little odd friendship, and has a heartwarming gag scene at the end. Since I think he has to steal votes from other actors, and not just keep the support he already has, I feel this is the best option, as it’s a great episode, with several pretty good moments for him throughout, and yet, it might be one of the more accessible episodes the show has done. It’s funny, emotional, and even has a few political and social undertones. I seriously think this is as close to Emmy bait as this show will ever get, and I don’t think he should submit anything else.

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    I adore all of these episodes, but that means nothing.

    My gut says “Country Drive” — one of the major things that stuck with me last season was his character explaining how bordedom is ridiculous. It wasn’t just the writing though, it was his delivery. Also, aren’t kids the most difficult to work with? Cause Louis CK acts well with his TV daughters. Their scenes together are always great. And him singing “Who Are You?” while they try to reconcile their father’s oddness — that was amazing. The kids didn’t overshadow him though. Rough issues are addressed and it ends on an off note, but it’s an honest note. Mostly, the reason why my gut leans towards this episode is because it’s mostly about Louie being a father, which are the best parts about the show, in my opinion. (and I say this as someone without kids)

    Subway/Pamela — the first part still doesn’t sit well with me and I can’t vote for anything. It made me feel a bit too uncomfortable, even for Louie. I’m fine with feeling uncomfortable generally (See above: Country Drive), but other shows have down it better…Louie has done it better. The Pamela part was A++ and one of my favorite things that happened on television last year, without question. His profession of love was heartwarming(breaking) and the final scene was painful(hilarious). It was truly perfect. If one could force every Emmy voter to watch the Pamela portion, I would bet my life savings on Louis CK winning best actor and the show would also win best comedy, easily. It’s genius. But that stuff can’t be forced. And the “Subway” portion is a thing.

    Ducking — Overall, this is the best episode of the season. It was golden. But acting wise, is that his tape? I dunno. He’s great in it and it’s a BRILLIANT episode of television, without question. But, for his tape? I’m not sure. While I mentioned the fact that kids are the most difficult to work with, animals are the same thing — and in this case the star of the episode was a baby duck that crossed enemy lines. Louie wasn’t the star. It was literally a duckling that crossed enemy lines.

    If the choice were up to me (it’s not), I’d throw all the Emmys to Louie/Louis CK this Emmy season.

    “Country Drive” would be my choice, acting wise.

    In related news, I could talk for ages about how Doug Stanhope deserves an Emmy (not just a nomination) for “Eddie” — it’s been awhile since a performance cut me so hard. He’s a miserable person in real life, and I’m not a fan of his stand up, but it was genius, honest, and ballsy.

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    jameswilson799
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    #247416

    I agree with you Renaton, “Subway/Pamela” is not a great choice,It’s not at all comedy.

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    Daniel Montgomery
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    I think “Subway/Pamela” is emotional, but certainly comic. Consider the one-liners early on in the “Pamela” scenes (about roller coasters: “I screamed like a little girl who saw a spider in her vagina”), and the opening he misses at the very end of the episode. When he finds out he missed his only window of opportunity with Pamela and screams in frustration, I thought that was hilarious.

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    I think “Subway/Pamela” is emotional, but certainly comic. Consider the one-liners early on in the “Pamela” scenes (about roller coasters: “I screamed like a little girl who saw a spider in her vagina”), and the opening he misses at the very end of the episode. When he finds out he missed his only window of opportunity with Pamela and screams in frustration, I thought that was hilarious.

    It’s all funny, but it’s not where the true impact of the episode lies. The scene which he says how he loves Pamela, that’s the whole purpose of the episode. I just don’t know how baity love declaration episodes are for voters. 

    People keep saying he’s not doing hsi best acting in “Duckling”, but it’s about Afeghanistan and his gets a emotional resoltuion in the end with the duck that is actually very funny. It might not be his best performance on the show, but it has some of the scenes he did that have the biggest impact (his stand up for the troops is quite memorable), and there a mix of tension and light in his performance that would really help him win.

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    ashmores
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    Come On God.

    This category is for ‘funny’ only as opposed to comedy actress.  Just look at past winners – Tony Shalhoub is the only borderline… Similar to Louie – Ricky Gervais won with a tape that had hardly any depth to it – just an all out funny episode.

    Subway/Pamela would be a mistake.  It’s damn good – as is his performance in Eddie but those aren’t comedy winning tapes.

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    I vote Airport/New Jersey.  It has a lot of the same Pamela material as Subway/Pamela, but a little more conventionally funny and without the potentially alienating surrealist elements of ” Subway”

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    Come On God.

    This category is for ‘funny’ only as opposed to comedy actress.  Just look at past winners – Tony Shalhoub is the only borderline… Similar to Louie – Ricky Gervais won with a tape that had hardly any depth to it – just an all out funny episode.

    Subway/Pamela would be a mistake.  It’s damn good – as is his performance in Eddie but those aren’t comedy winning tapes.

    “Come on, God” is actually my 2nd choice. That mastubation scene alone is the funniest thing the show did all season, and he’s gotta other great moments in the episode. I feel this would be a good choce. I think the whole overtly satyrical tone of the episode helps, since it takes a bit of the emotional impact card out of the table, whereas in other episodes you have to think about how much voters will identify with the scenes.

    Oh, and another problem with not only “Subway/Pamela”, but Pamela centric episodes in general as Emmy submissions (even though they are great episodes), it’s that his love for her has impact on us, regular viewers, because we have context not only of their relationship, but also of Louie on a bigger scale. When he does these romantic things or keeps fooling himself about the nature of their interactions, it means a lot to us because we see how hard this for Louie considering his life, his personality… But I think submissions shouldn’t work in just keeping the support you already have. They have to STEAL votes from other contenders too. And I just don’t think that people that don’t watch the show would immediately get involved with his story with Pamela, as funny and heartbreaking as parts of it can be.

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    I’d go with “Subway/Pamela” as Louis C.K.’s submission tape.

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