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  • Marcus Dixon
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    #342724

    Derbyites, we need to know which guest actors and guest actresses are most affected by the new “less than 50%” Emmys rule change?

    In other words, who would have campaigned as guest, but now can’t?

    And which recent guest nominees can no longer enter those races?

    List your candidates and reasons below!

    Here’s the fine print of the new rule:

    Only performers appearing in less than 50% of a program’s episodes are now eligible to submit in the “Guest” categories.

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    ETPhoneHome
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    The biggest ones for me are Mike Colter and David Hyde Pierce for The Good Wife. After seeing what both of them have brought to the season, they would both be fantastic nominees, and would have certainly been put into Guest. Now there’s no way that either can break into the Supporting Actor category. Through thirteen episodes, they’ve been in at least half, and it seems more likely for it to just be Dylan Baker, or maybe even Matthew Goode.

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    Andrew Eng
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    Justified has several candidates who won’t be able to submit in the Guest categories: Garret Dillahunt, Sam Elliott, and Mary Steenburgen, who have appeared in 7, 6, and 5 episodes, respectively thus far. The season is 13 episodes long, so Dillahunt already is over 50%, while Elliott and Steenburgen are just about to cross that mark as well. FX used to submit the guest stars in both Supporting and Guest in previous years (e.g. Margo Martindale in Supporting and Jeremy Davies in Guest in 2011, Neal McDonough in Supporting and Mykelti Williamson, Jeremy Davies, and Jere Burns in Guest in 2012). That strategy is no longer viable. 

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    #342728

    An easy fix to this.

    Get rid of the gender based categories. Replace them with “1 time guest” and “recurring player” for each genre. Still 4 total categories.

    Then you won’t have a St. Elsewhere situation where someone steals a supporting trophy. I love the show, but that was a joke. 

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    Jalal Haddad
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    #342729

    Geena Davis could have easily gotten into the drama race off of name for her big role in Grey’s Anatomy this season but now is most likely going to be forced to submit in supporting

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    Someonelikeme
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    #342730

    Last years Guest Actor Drama winner, Mr Joe Morton.

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    Richard R
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    #342731

    Initially I think Matthew Goode was going to be a series regular on the Good Wife but he has not been in that many episodes and David Hyde Pierce has been heavily showcased. I think in the end it benefits Dylan Baker who has had Good material to work with.

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    Riley
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    Matthew Goode is a series regular and has been in all but two episodes this season.

    An easy fix to this.  Get rid of the gender based categories.

    I really do not think that there are enough great truly-guest performances, nor should guest performances be celebrated such that there are twenty-four nominees.  That there are twenty slots for all categories at the Oscars and twenty-four slots for guest stars at the Emmys is crazy.  I would condense all four categories into one.  Then we would actually have six great performances to choose from.  Too much crap sneaks into these guest categories and it is not really any fault of the voters because how else are they going to fill so many slots?

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    Richard R
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    Dylan Baker got to play two roles on the Good Wife which can help him. He also is comedic relief for the show, has good chemistry with Juliana Marguiles and was in Most of the episode. Ed Asner is loved in the industry and got to play a bigoted homophobe on the show. Both could benefit from the New rules and the material they have to work with. In terms of material I think Baker had more to do and was featured more heavily.

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    Richard R
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    Laura Benanti was also good on The Good Wife but didn’t have as much to do as Baker but I think there is a chance she can get in and the New rules may benefit her here

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    Richard R
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    Matthew Goode does not stand out as a series regular because he doesn’t have enough material to work with. I  like him on the show but the last memorable scene was the courthouse shooting.

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    The biggest ones for me are Mike Colter and David Hyde Pierce for The Good Wife. After seeing what both of them have brought to the season, they would both be fantastic nominees, and would have certainly been put into Guest. Now there’s no way that either can break into the Supporting Actor category. Through thirteen episodes, they’ve been in at least half, and it seems more likely for it to just be Dylan Baker, or maybe even Matthew Goode.

    I do not know about Mike Colter but David Hyde Pierce should have no issue submitting himself as a guest actor.  Last time I checked, The Good Wife annually has 22 episodes, not thirteen.  So I am not sure where that thirteen episodes is relevant. 

    More importantly, David Hyde Pierce is only scheduled to appear in six episodes of this season of The Good Wife.  Unless that has changed in the past couple of months, he should have no issue with being a potential guest actor nominee.  Unless I am misunderstanding the rule, David Hype Pierce is allowed to appear in up to 10 (which is less than 50% of 22) episodes and still be considered a guest actor.

    Someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but to my knowledge even with the rule change DHP should still be eligible for guest actor in a drama this year.

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    The one person I am wondering about is Jane Fonda from the Newsroom.  She has already earned two nominations in guest actress in a drama for the Newsroom.  To my knowledge she appeared in 3 of the 6 episodes of The Newsrooms third/final season.  That would mean she appeared in 50% of the season, so to my knowledge she is no longer eligible for guest actress.  I have no clue if she is competitive for supporting actress or if she will even bother submitting at all.

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    #342738

    Season four of Veep has yet to premiere but Gary Cole (who received a Guest Actor nomination for season three) will probably appear in more than fifty percent of the season.

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    I really felt strongly that Betsy Brandt had an excellent shot at being nominated for Masters of Sex as she was one of the standouts in the 2nd season. Would have been really great for her as sort of a makeup for the Emmys never nominating her for BB. Unfortunately, now because of this rule she has to enter in as supporting, as she appeared in 7 of the 13 episodes. 

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