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  • Boidiva02
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    Let’s just pretend that for some reason Julia Louis-Dreyfus decided not to submit her name anymore for “Veep” or for some reason voters decide to move onto another actress, who is next in line to win Best Actress-Comedy? It seems unlikely anyone else is going to win until JLD stops submitting or Veep is cancelled… but for fun, who is next in line?

    Personally I’d like to see Ellie Kemper win, and it would also be nice to see Amy Schumer win. But I think Tracee Ellis Ross is probably next in line…

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    Riley
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    The new system rewards passion though.

    2017: Ellie Kemper (Sarah Jessica Parker)
    2016: Ellie Kemper (Amy Schumer)
    2015: Amy Poehler (Amy Schumer)
    2014: Melissa McCarthy (Taylor Schilling)
    2013: Melissa McCarthy* (Tina Fey)
    2012: Melissa McCarthy (Zooey Deschanel)

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    Lily Tomlin

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    AayaanUpadhyaya
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    I honestly don’t think she’s winning her 6th. I feel like Issa Rae and Sarah Jessica Parker are really in contention here. As is Tracee Eliss Ross (If she has a great year) and Ellie Kemper.

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    AayaanUpadhyaya
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    The new system rewards passion though.

    2017: Ellie Kemper (Sarah Jessica Parker)
    2016: Ellie Kemper (Amy Schumer)
    2015: Amy Poehler (Amy Schumer)
    2014: Melissa McCarthy (Taylor Schilling)
    2013: Melissa McCarthy* (Tina Fey)
    2012: Melissa McCarthy (Zooey Deschanel)

    Help me understand this. You’re saying these winners would have won in the new system? Or are those your choices in the old tape system?

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    GusCruz
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    The new system rewards passion though.

    2017: Ellie Kemper (Sarah Jessica Parker)
    2016: Ellie Kemper (Amy Schumer)
    2015: Amy Poehler (Amy Schumer)
    2014: Melissa McCarthy (Taylor Schilling)
    2013: Melissa McCarthy* (Tina Fey)
    2012: Melissa McCarthy (Zooey Deschanel)

    Help me understand this. You’re saying these winners would have won in the new system? Or are those your choices in the old tape system?

    Would’ve won had Julia not submitted, I assume

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    GusCruz
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    The thing about Julia is that the show is gonna change almost completely next season that it could be a disaster and turn people off or feel like an entirely new show and propel her to a new win that won’t feel tired. We won’t know until we see it.

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    Passion for the atrocious Mike&Molly? Or her as an overweight actress who manages to get lead roles?

    I think SJP will end up being something only this forum hypes. But I hope Issa Rae really happens.

    I guess a win for Kemper could be cool. She felt like a fresh air in the first season and her commitment was impressive, but my passion grew tired with her and her alwaya uptight character. And if there isn’t enough passion for Titus, who also plays a fairly similar flashy character, I’m not so sure if Julia is the only thing that obstructs her from winning.

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    Teridax
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    The thing about Julia is that the show is gonna change almost completely next season that it could be a disaster and turn people off or feel like an entirely new show and propel her to a new win that won’t feel tired. We won’t know until we see it.

    EXACTLY. I’m very worried about Veep next season. I loved ALL of Season 5, including the finale, although it honestly felt more like a series finale than merely a season finale.

    I think Ellie Kemper will win next year, she makes the most sense.

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    Riley
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    I was predicting what would have happened if Julia Louis-Dreyfus had not submitted. So 2016 and 2017 are the popular plurality system, 2015 is popular preferential and 2012 through 2014 are tapes. I think that Melissa McCarthy would have prevailed seeing as she won right before the Louis-Dreyfus steamroller and continued to submit tapes of equal or greater Emmy caliber, plus Jim Parsons kept winning for similarly slapstick work on the actor side.

    Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt has certainly been having trouble at the Emmys, but I just do not know who the alternative is. Amy Schumer when she could not repeat in sketch series or win special writing? I doubt that Lily Tomlin has any passion. We downplayed Louie Anderson because Baskets seemed little watched, but Anderson did have a lot of buzz, unlike twice-snubbed Laurie Metcalf for the cancelled Getting On. Ellie Kemper has some fans.

    Sarah Jessica Parker is something of an obvious choice, but there is a huge chance that she gets snubbed. Nobody watches her show and the critics are not supporting it. Name recognition is not enough anymore. Ask Martin Scorsese, Paul Giamatti, Dustin Hoffman and so on.

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    I was predicting what would have happened if Julia Louis-Dreyfus had not submitted. So 2016 and 2017 are the popular plurality system, 2015 is popular preferential and 2012 through 2014 are tapes. I think that Melissa McCarthy would have prevailed seeing as she won right before the Louis-Dreyfus steamroller and continued to submit tapes of equal or greater Emmy caliber, plus Jim Parsons kept winning for similarly slapstick work on the actor side.

    Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt has certainly been having trouble at the Emmys, but I just do not know who the alternative is. Amy Schumer when she could not repeat in sketch series or win special writing? I doubt that Lily Tomlin has any passion. We downplayed Louie Anderson because Baskets seemed little watched, but Anderson did have a lot of buzz, unlike twice-snubbed Laurie Metcalf for the cancelled Getting On. Ellie Kemper has some fans.

    Sarah Jessica Parker is something of an obvious choice, but there is a huge chance that she gets snubbed. Nobody watches her show and the critics are not supporting it. Name recognition is not enough anymore. Ask Martin Scorsese, Paul Giamatti, Dustin Hoffman and so on.

    That’s what I was confused about since no way Mccarthy wins in the new system. Thanks for clearing that up.

    And I agree with your Kemper prediction. I had predicted Louie Anderson and I had Kemper in second place for the same reason, passion vote.

    I assume those in brackets are your alternatives?

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    AayaanUpadhyaya
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    Am I the only one who is sort of convinced Issa Rae is winning this next year?

    I LOVED her in the first episode and I can see critics rallying behind this like Girl’s first season. The passion vote would be her’s to lose as well.

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    Riley
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    I do not see a show about young, working-class black women (led by a YouTube celebrity without industry name recognition) appealing to the stereotypical voter—an old, white man who made a career in glamorous show business. Given the ratings, Insecure is not going to have any online buzz helping it either. And the critics are not passionate enough about it to carry it all the way from the fall to the summer.

    Pretty low on the priority list for HBO too, between regaining ground in the limited races via The Night Of and The Young Pope, keeping drama warm with Westworld and continuing the comedy dominance of Veep and Silicon Valley. Final seasons of Girls and The Leftovers, plus the returns to television of Sarah Jessica Parker and Tracey Ullman ensure that their hands are plenty full. Insecure could still rally by itself like Getting On, but my guess is that it follows more in the footsteps of Togetherness and Looking.

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    I do not see a show about young, working-class black women (led by a YouTube celebrity without industry name recognition) appealing to the stereotypical voter—an old, white man who made a career in glamorous show business. Given the ratings, Insecure is not going to have any online buzz helping it either. And the critics are not passionate enough about it to carry it all the way from the fall to the summer.

    Pretty low on the priority list for HBO too, between regaining ground in the limited races via The Night Of and The Young Pope, keeping drama warm with Westworld and continuing the comedy dominance of Veep and Silicon Valley. Final seasons of Girls and The Leftovers, plus the returns to television of Sarah Jessica Parker and Tracey Ullman ensure that their hands are plenty full. Insecure could still rally by itself like Getting On, but my guess is that it follows more in the footsteps of Togetherness and Looking.

    Black twitter made a big deal out of Insecure the night it premiered. Online buzz will be the show’s buzz. Rae seems like a potential nominee on paper. But, if voters want to diversify the category with a new winner of color (the 2nd overall) it’ll be Tracee Ellis Ross.

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    Am I the only one who is sort of convinced Issa Rae is winning this next year?

    I LOVED her in the first episode and I can see critics rallying behind this like Girl’s first season. The passion vote would be her’s to lose as well.

    I don’t envision her winning an acting prize unless SAG or the Globes give it out.

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