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  • jf123
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    Lets pretend its 2014 again and we were under the old system and all of the current nominees where nominated and submitted the same episodes. Who would win?

    Note: Even though the supporting actors in Limited Series/TV Movies didn’t submit episodes back then, they do now.

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    jf123
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    My Picks:
    Comedy Series:
    Would win under old system: Veep
    Will win now: Veep

    Comedy Actor
    Who would win under old system: Anthony Anderson
    Will win now: Jeffrey Tambor

    Comedy Actress:
    Who would win under old system: JLD
    Will win now: JLD

    Comedy Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Louie Anderson
    Will win now: Tituss Burgess

    Comedy Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Alison Janney
    Will win now: Anna Chlumsky

    Comedy Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Larry David
    Will win now: Larry David

    Comedy Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Melora Hardin
    Will win now: Tina Fey and Amy Poehler

    Drama Series:
    Who would win under old system: Game of Thrones
    Will win now: Game of Thrones

    Drama Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Rami Malek
    Will win now: Kevin Spacey

    Drama Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Viola Davis
    Will win now: Robin Wright

    Drama Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Jon Voight
    Will win now: Jonathan Banks

    Drama Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Maura Tierny
    Will win now: Maggie Smith

    Drama Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Hank Azaria
    Will win now: Max Von Sydow

    Drama Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Laurie Metcalfe
    Will win now: Ellen Burstyn

    Limited Series:
    Who would win under old system: People vs OJ
    Will win now: People vs OJ

    Move/Limited Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Bryan Cranston
    Will win now: Bryan Cranston

    Movie/Limited Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Sarah Paulson (it wouldn’t be as big of a lock though)
    Will win now: Sarah Paulson

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Bokeem Woodbine or Sterling K Brown
    Will win now: Hugh Laurie

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Olivia Coleman
    Will win now: Jean Smart

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    Sam Keys
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    Interesting that you think that Olivia Coleman could win. Could you please explain? I think Smart would still be a lock in the Supporting Actress category

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    jf123
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    Interesting that you think that Olivia Coleman could win. Could you please explain? I think Smart would still be a lock in the Supporting Actress category

    Smart has a very subtle role in Fargo season 2. Emmy voters tend to prefer showier performance compared to more subtle performances (see Mad Men’s Emmy record)

    She would be my personal pick, but Coleman is a little more showy and has a very good episode submitted. And the past three wins in this category have been pretty big upsets

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    sturnc
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    Comedy Series:
    Would win under old system: Veep
    Will win now: Veep

    Comedy Actor
    Who would win under old system: Thomas Middleditch
    Will win now: Jeffrey Tambor

    Comedy Actress:
    Who would win under old system: JLD
    Will win now: JLD

    Comedy Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Ty Burrell
    Will win now: Tituss Burgess

    Comedy Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Alison Janney
    Will win now: Kate McKinnon

    Comedy Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Larry David
    Will win now: Larry David

    Comedy Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Melora Hardin
    Will win now: Melora Hardin

    Drama Series:
    Who would win under old system: Game of Thrones
    Will win now: Game of Thrones

    Drama Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Rami Malek (Though really it could’ve been anyone)
    Will win now: Kevin Spacey

    Drama Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Viola Davis
    Will win now: Robin Wright

    Drama Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Peter Dinklage
    Will win now: Peter Dinklage

    Drama Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Maura Tierny
    Will win now: Maggie Smith

    Drama Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Hank Azaria
    Will win now: Hank Azaria

    Drama Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Laurie Metcalf
    Will win now: Laurie Metcalf

    Limited Series:
    Who would win under old system: People vs OJ
    Will win now: People vs OJ

    Move/Limited Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Bryan Cranston
    Will win now: Courtney B. Vance

    Movie/Limited Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Sarah Paulson
    Will win now: Sarah Paulson

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Sterling K Brown
    Will win now: Sterling K. Brown

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Olivia Colman
    Will win now: Jean Smart

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    Comedy Series:
    Would win under old system: Modern Family ( I dare you to challenge this)
    Will win now: Veep

    Comedy Actor
    Who would win under old system: Thomas Middleditch
    Will win now: Jeffrey Tambor

    Comedy Actress:
    Who would win under old system: JLD but Lily Tomlin could’ve upset
    Will win now: JLD

    Comedy Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Ty Burrell
    Will win now: Louie Anderson

    Comedy Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Allison Janney
    Will win now: Allison Janney

    Comedy Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Larry David
    Will win now: Tracy Morgan

    Comedy Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Tina & Amy
    Will win now: Tina & Amy

    Drama Series:
    Who would win under old system: Downton Abbey / The Americans
    Will win now: Game of Thrones

    Drama Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Liev Schreiber
    Will win now: Kevin Spacey

    Drama Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Viola Davis
    Will win now: Viola Davis

    Drama Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Kit Harington
    Will win now: Kit Harington

    Drama Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Maura Tierney
    Will win now: Maggie Smith

    Drama Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Hank Azaria
    Will win now: Michael J. Fox

    Drama Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Laurie Metcalf
    Will win now: Ellen Burstyn

    Limited Series:
    Who would win under old system: People vs OJ
    Will win now: People vs OJ

    Move/Limited Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Bryan Cranston
    Will win now: Bryan Cranston

    Movie/Limited Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Sarah Paulson
    Will win now: Sarah Paulson

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Sterling K Brown
    Will win now: John Travolta / Hugh Laurie

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Sarah Paulson
    Will win now: Jean Smart

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    ricardo505
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    Comedy Series:
    Would win under old system: Veep, but Modern Family would be really close.
    Will win now: Veep

    Comedy Actor
    Who would win under old system: Jeffrey Tambor or Anthony Anderson (both tapes are great)
    Will win now: Jeffrey Tambor

    Comedy Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Julia Louis-Dreyfus
    Will win now: Julia Louis-Dreyfus

    Comedy Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Ty Burrell
    Will win now: Matt Walsh or Tony Hale (I don’t think Walsh is a long shot with all the love for Veep)

    Comedy Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Allison Janney
    Will win now: Allison Janney

    Comedy Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Larry David
    Will win now: Martin Mull

    Comedy Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Tina Fey & Amy Poehler
    Will win now: Tina Fey & Amy Poehler

    Drama Series:
    Who would win under old system: It would be Downton Abbey vs The Americans
    Will win now: Game of Thrones

    Drama Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Rami Malek
    Will win now: Kevin Spacey

    Drama Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Tatiana Maslany
    Will win now: Viola Davis

    Drama Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Jonathan Banks
    Will win now: Kit Harington

    Drama Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Constance Zimmer, Maggie Smith or Maura Tierney
    Will win now: Maggie Smith

    Drama Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Hank Azaria
    Will win now: Michael J. Fox or Max von Sydow

    Drama Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Laurie Metcalf
    Will win now: Ellen Burstyn

    Limited Series:
    Who would win under old system: The People vs OJ Simpson
    Will win now: The People vs OJ Simpson

    Move/Limited Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Bryan Cranston
    Will win now: Bryan Cranston

    Movie/Limited Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Kirsten Dunst
    Will win now: Sarah Paulson

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Sterling K Brown
    Will win now: Hugh Laurie

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Olivia Colman
    Will win now: Jean Smart

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    Riley
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    Veep / Veep
    “Mother” / “Mother”
    “Man on the Land” / “Kissing Your Sister”
    Jeffrey Tambor / Thomas Middleditch
    Julia Louis-Dreyfus / Julia Louis-Dreyfus
    Tony Hale / Tituss Burgess
    Anna Chlumsky / Allison Janney
    Larry David / Larry David
    Tina Fey & Amy Poehler / Tina Fey & Amy Poehler

    The series races had too many voters under the tape system for tapes to make a huge difference; that is how it has been possible to predict them based just on what other nominations the shows picked up. Vote-splitting was a not a factor under the old system and directors love format-breaking. Tambor and Anthony Anderson would have lost because it has been so long since a dramatic tape won a comedy Emmy. Burgess’s tape is not great, but his character is big enough to compensate. The comedy guest categories were largely buzz-driven even under the old system.

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    Comedy Series:
    Would win under old system: Veep
    Will win now: Veep

    Comedy Actor
    Who would win under old system: Anthony Anderson
    Will win now: Jeffrey Tambor

    Comedy Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Julia
    Will win now: Julia

    Comedy Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: The biggest lock for Louie Anderson
    Will win now: Keegan Michael Key (this category is too wide open)

    Comedy Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Judith Light
    Will win now: Judith Light

    Comedy Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Larry David
    Will win now: Larry David

    Comedy Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Melissa Mccarthy
    Will win now: Melora Hardin

    Drama Series:
    Who would win under old system: Game of Thrones
    Will win now: Game of Thrones

    Drama Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Rami Malek
    Will win now: Rami Malek

    Drama Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Viola Davis
    Will win now: Viola Davis

    Drama Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Jon Voight
    Will win now: Kit Harrington

    Drama Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Maura Tierny
    Will win now: Lena Heady

    Drama Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Reg E Cathy
    Will win now: Reg E Cathy

    Drama Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Laurie Metcalf
    Will win now: Ellen Burstyn

    Limited Series:
    Who would win under old system: People vs OJ
    Will win now: People vs OJ

    Move/Limited Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Bryan Cranston
    Will win now: Courtney B. Vance

    Movie/Limited Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Sarah Paulson
    Will win now: Sarah Paulson

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: John Travolta
    Will win now: Sterling K. Brown

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Jean Smart
    Will win now: Jean Smart

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    Riley
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    Comedy Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: The biggest lock for Louie Anderson

    Not buying it. The tape system was very good at ignoring external factors, like nostalgia, buzz or in this case, a man playing a woman. Another thing that the tape system was good for was awarding slapstick over nuance:

    2014 Lead Actor: Jim Parsons doing his tired shtick over Ricky Gervais grieving his father

    2014 Lead Actress: Julia Louis-Dreyfus with her crate over Melissa McCarthy in therapy to grieve her father

    2014 Supporting Actor: Ty Burrell bumping into things over Jesse Tyler Ferguson struggling with his father’s opinion of his sexual orientation

    2014 Supporting Actress: Allison Janney over Kate Mulgrew

    2014 Guest Actress: Uzo Aduba with her crazy eyes over Laverne Cox with an arc and screen time in the same episode

    I intended to keep going back in time, but five examples from a single year should be sufficient.

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    Comedy Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: The biggest lock for Louie Anderson

    Not buying it. The tape system was very good at ignoring external factors, like nostalgia, buzz or in this case, a man playing a woman. Another thing that the tape system was good for was awarding slapstick over nuance:

    2014 Lead Actor: Jim Parsons doing his tired shtick over Ricky Gervais grieving his father

    2014 Lead Actress: Julia Louis-Dreyfus with her crate over Melissa McCarthy in therapy to grieve her father

    2014 Supporting Actor: Ty Burrell bumping into things over Jesse Tyler Ferguson struggling with his father’s opinion of his sexual orientation

    2014 Supporting Actress: Allison Janney over Kate Mulgrew

    2014 Guest Actress: Uzo Aduba with her crazy eyes over Laverne Cox with an arc and screen time in the same episode

    I intended to keep going back in time, but five examples from a single year should be sufficient.

    UGH you just reminded me why I hated 2014 so much.

    And I agree with all of this. But just look at his competition this year? Who’d they go for instead of a straight man in drag? In a weird way, it’s right up their ally (even though his acting is subtle)

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    Riley
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    Tituss Burgess may not have “Peeno Noir” this time around, but he is still flamboyant and even gets to sing and dance. Ty Burrell and Jim Parsons won with weak tapes when they were still more slapstick than their competitors.

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    Comedy Series:
    Would win under old system: Veep
    Will win now: Veep

    Comedy Actor
    Who would win under old system: Anthony Anderson
    Will win now: Not sure yet.

    Comedy Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Julia
    Will win now: Julia

    Comedy Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Hale or Burrell
    Will win now: Hale

    Comedy Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Janney
    Will win now: Janney

    Comedy Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Larry David
    Will win now: Not sure yet

    Comedy Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Maybe Schumer?
    Will win now: Not sure yet

    Drama Series:
    Who would win under old system: I actually think House of Cards could have pulled it off
    Will win now: Game of Thrones

    Drama Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Schreiber?
    Will win now: Not sure yet

    Drama Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Wright
    Will win now: Not sure yet

    Drama Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Jon Voight
    Will win now: Kit Harrington

    Drama Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Maura Tierny
    Will win now: Smith

    Drama Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Reg E Cathy
    Will win now: Still deciding

    Drama Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Laurie Metcalf
    Will win now: Ellen Burstyn

    Limited Series:
    Who would win under old system: People vs OJ
    Will win now: People vs OJ

    Move/Limited Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Bryan Cranston
    Will win now: Cranston

    Movie/Limited Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Sarah Paulson
    Will win now: Sarah Paulson

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Brown
    Will win now: Sterling K. Brown

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Colman?
    Will win now: Jean Smart

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    Luan Queiroz
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    Comedy Series:
    Would win under old system: Veep
    Will win now: Veep

    Comedy Actor
    Who would win under old system: Anthony Anderson
    Will win now: Jeffrey Tambor

    Comedy Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Julia Louis-Dreyfuss
    Will win now: Julia Louis-Dreyfuss

    Comedy Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Tituss Burgess (his tape is not Peeno Noir this year, but he still has a good material)or Louie Anderson
    Will win now: Tony Hale

    Comedy Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Allison Janney or Judith Light
    Will win now: Allison Janney

    Comedy Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Larry David
    Will win now: Larry David

    Comedy Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Amy Schumer or Melora Hardin
    Will win now: Christine Baranski

    Drama Series:
    Who would win under old system: Game of Thrones
    Will win now: Game of Thrones

    Drama Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Rami Malek
    Will win now: Kevin Spacey

    Drama Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Viola Davis. (I love Robin Wright in Chapter 49. She’so subtle and powerful and her speech in this episode is incredible, but I think Viola has a more impressive tape this year. – Her series is a mess anyway, in my opinion.:/)
    Will win now: Viola Davis

    Drama Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: none of these guys
    Will win now: Kit Harrington

    Drama Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Lena Headey
    Will win now: Maggie Smith

    Drama Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Reg E. Cathy
    Will win now: Michael J. Fox

    Drama Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Ellen Burstyn
    Will win now: Ellen Burstyn

    Limited Series:
    Who would win under old system: People vs OJ Simpson
    Will win now: People vs OJ Simpson

    Move/Limited Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Bryan Cranston
    Will win now: Bryan Cranston

    Movie/Limited Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Sarah Paulson
    Will win now: Sarah Paulson

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Sterling K. Brown
    Will win now: Sterling K. Brown

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Jean Smart (she’s really great and Fargo deserves to win something)
    Will win now: Jean Smart

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    Mihael Crncec
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    Comedy Series:
    Would win under old system: Veep
    Will win now: Veep

    Comedy Actor
    Who would win under old system: Jeffrey Tambor
    Will win now: Jeffrey Tambor

    Comedy Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Julia Louis-Dreyfus
    Will win now: Julia Louis-Dreyfus

    Comedy Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Ty Burrell
    Will win now: Tony Hale

    Comedy Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Judith Light
    Will win now: Allison Janney

    Comedy Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Larry David
    Will win now: Larry David

    Comedy Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Melissa McCarthy
    Will win now: Christine Baranski

    Drama Series:
    Who would win under old system: Game of Thrones
    Will win now: Game of Thrones

    Drama Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Rami Malek
    Will win now: Kevin Spacey

    Drama Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Robin Wright
    Will win now: Viola Davis

    Drama Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Jon Voight
    Will win now: Kit Harington

    Drama Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Maggie Smith
    Will win now: Maggie Smith

    Drama Guest Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Reg E. Cathey
    Will win now: Max Von Sydow

    Drama Guest Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Ellen Burstyn
    Will win now: Ellen Burstyn

    Limited Series:
    Who would win under old system: People vs OJ
    Will win now: People vs OJ

    Move/Limited Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Bryan Cranston
    Will win now: Bryan Cranston

    Movie/Limited Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Sarah Paulson
    Will win now: Sarah Paulson

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actor:
    Who would win under old system: Sterling K. Brown
    Will win now: Hugh Laurie

    Movie/Limited Supporting Actress:
    Who would win under old system: Jean Smart
    Will win now: Jean Smart

    Gold Derby TV Awards FYC: Gilmore Girls: A Year in the Life - Limited Series, Movie/Mini Actress (Lauren Graham), Movie/Mini Supp. Actress (Kelly Bishop)

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