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  • Anonymous
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    I mean let’s face it. She doesn’t give a f.u.c.k about the Emmys and with that attitude (I know she’s old and I love her to death, but come on…) she’s taking away a spot from someone else. She won two times already, isn’t that enough for the studio? Why do they need to keep submitting her for that extra nomination? I mean they should rather concentrate on Joanne Froggatt instead who would actually make a deserving winner someday.

    What do you think?

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    Andrew Eng
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    I mean let’s face it. She doesn’t give a f.u.c.k about the Emmys and with that attitude (I know she’s old and I love her to death, but come on…) she’s taking away a spot from someone else. She won two times already, isn’t that enough for the studio? Why do they need to keep submitting her for that extra nomination? I mean they should rather concentrate on Joanne Froggatt instead who would actually make a deserving winner someday.

    What do you think?

    You said it yourself. She won twice already and has been nominated for every season, in addition to winning the Golden Globe and SAG Award. She is the only performer on the show who has achieved that consistent level of recognition.  Any studio would rather submit someone that is guaranteed to get nominated than someone who is not, and Smith fits the former case. Whether she’s deserving or not is not on their list of priorities. The potential nominations and wins matter more to them. 

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    Gone_Guy
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    It’s not just a win for the performer (I mean, it is, technically) but it’s also a win for both the network and the series itself. A win at one of these awards may make a viewer say, “Hmm, surprised by that win. I think I’ll have to check out this series.” At Gold Derby, most of us keep on the pulse of everything, so we likely wouldn’t react that way. But to the laymen, you never know. My roommate was [finally!] inspired to watch Breaking Bad after its almost-sweep this past year. What pushed him to do it (outside of my pleas) was seeing that it won so much, particularly Cranston over Matthew McConaughey. 

    Actually, it has happened to me a couple of times. When Patricia Arquette shocked the world and one for the first season of Medium, I immediately bought the DVD and binged it when it came out. The verdict: It was an okay series, but contained a great performance by Arquette (who completely nailed her submission). This past year, I watched The Spoils of Babylon when Kristin Wiig received that out-of-nowhere nom. The verdict on that: It was delightful, and should have received more nominations. 

    I try not to hold frustration with performers that don’t show up to accept. It’s about the performance, not the speech. I mean, when Dianne Wiest won for In Treatment, she was doing a Broadway play. When Alan Alda won for The West Wing, he had taken his grandson on a trip (and actually said, he planned it early so he could make the Emmys, but that was when the Emmys were pushed up). When Laura Linney won her Golden Globe for The Big C, her dad had just passed away. (Don’t know where she was when she won her Emmy for it; just now realized, but this means she won two major awards yet never got to deliver a speech either time.) 

    I mentioned in another post, and I’ll say it here. Maggie Smith has three Emmys wins and has given zero Emmy speeches. I would like for her to come one year, perhaps even the last year the series is eligible? Up the ante and allow her to present the final award of the night, Best Drama Series. Whatever she wants. 

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    AviChristiaans
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    I mean let’s face it. She doesn’t give a f.u.c.k about the Emmys and with that attitude (I know she’s old and I love her to death, but come on…) she’s taking away a spot from someone else. She won two times already, isn’t that enough for the studio? Why do they need to keep submitting her for that extra nomination? I mean they should rather concentrate on Joanne Froggatt instead who would actually make a deserving winner someday.

    What do you think?

    Maggie Smith is taking a spot from who exactly? She is a two time winner for that role. Dame Smith is THE Emmy Supporting actress lock each year. She is far fom a filler nominee. Smith is always competitive, and a major cast member of a huge, beloved ensemble. That’s how beloved she is, and that is how great of a performance/role she has on Downton Abbey.

    I’m assuming you’d prefer a show/performance to be retired after a win? Or is it that she shouldn’t be considered because she doesn’t show up for the awards?

    By that reasoning: Why is Christine Baranski, Jon Hamm, Amy Poehler being submitted each year when they fail to win every year?

    Or a better question, why is Julianna Marguiles, Claire Danes, Modern Family being submitted year after year? They won it multiple times now. So what gives?

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    AMG
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    You can’t base a decision on who to submit, and who to nominate as a voter, on whether or not they will turn up to the awards. 

    I still think Maggie Smith is the stand out actor in Downton Abbey. I do love Joanne Froggatt too, but Smith just has that extra something that has made her career as long lasting as it currently has been. I cannot take my eyes off her when she is on screen. And I’m not even a huge fan of Downton Abbey, so Emmy voters who do love the show, must have even stronger feelings about her in the show. 

    You suggest that Smith should also be missed off because she has won so many times. I don’t get why that means she has to leave, but if that’s what you want, then it’s time to sack off Julia Louis Dreyfus, Allison Janney, Edie Falco, Claire Danes & Julianna Margulies who have all won more, or the same number of, Emmys as Maggie Smith. 

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    Nah. I want her gone because she doesn’t care, also because there are other worthy actresses who care, too. I think it’s pretty simple. If you don’t care about awards, don’t submit yourself for awads.

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    AMG
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    How do you know that she doesn’t turn up because she simply doesn’t care?

    It could easily be due to work commitments, or due to ill health.

    If anything, it is admirable that Smith doesn’t feel a compulsion to turn up to awards ceremonies. She is in this industry for her love of acting, rather than for the awards she gets for her work.  

    Also, Smith doesn’t submit herself, the networks & the programme itself submit the cast members to the acting categories. 

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    forwardswill
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    Where is the proof that she doesn’t care? Just because she lives in the UK and chooses not to attend the ceremony at the age of 80? Last year she even released a statement when nominated about how grateful she was so she definitely cares. If we start giving out Emmys based on who is there it will become like the people’s choice awards.

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    Nah. I want her gone because she doesn’t care, also because there are other worthy actresses who care, too. I think it’s pretty simple. If you don’t care about awards, don’t submit yourself for awads.

    Not caring has no bearing on her work. Voters should vote for whomever they choose for their own reasons, regardless of how the nominee in question feels about award season recognition.

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    ETPhoneHome
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    Agreed with what’s been said here already. She probably does care, and the show can benefit from her nominations. I’d add that she also deserves it. She is consistently one of the best Supporting Actresses on TV each year. She’s the main reason I continue to watch Downton Abbey honestly.

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    What I love about place that everyone were bitching about the same, still, there is no one else here to agree with me this time. lol

    Once again, I love Dame Maggie a lot.

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    Atypical
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    Maggie Smith not attending the Emmys should have no bearing on her submitting or being nominated. It’s about the work, and it’s not like she submits herself (that’s PBS and/or “Downton Abbey” producers). There’s no evidence that she doesn’t “care” about the Emmys either, and more than likely the reasons for her absences are health/age related travel concerns.

    To answer a question earlier, the reason why Laura Linney wasn’t at the Emmys when she won for “The Big C: Hereafter” was b/c of her high-risk pregnancy.

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    Marcus Snowden (The Artist Formerly Known as msnowden1)
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    I agree with what almost everyone has said. She is an old woman, and traveling from the UK all the way to Los Angeles could be hazardous to her health. Plus, I’m sure she does care about the awards show a lot. It’s not like she has gotten nominated for so many awards that, over time, she lost interest. 

    On the other hand, though, she didn’t deserve the two Emmys she has won for Downton, IMO. Those awards belonged to Wood and Hendricks. However, if she won this year, I’ll be OK with it. She has a very competitive episode this year, and she could win for it. 

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    Icky
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    Unless an actor insist on not being submitted why would a network/producers stop submitting them, especially if they continue to be nominated?

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    manakamana
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    I just don’t think it’s in the network’s interest to revoke a submission just because voters keep checking her name off. It might be annoying, but it’s not a mystery why they keep submitting her name.

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